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October 20, 2020, 05:23:02 AM
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 Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
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This is a problem for most players. When you check the box that you have read and agree to the ToS, you are performing a legally significant action, which means that you fully and unconditionally agree to the rules and are ready to comply with them. If you are a resident of a country whose citizens are not allowed to play on this site, then you must leave this site yourself. The site should not calculate you by IP and block your access. After all, citizens of other countries may temporarily stay in your country and this will limit their ability to play.
Actually when I was on trip a few years back and tried to access bet365 they restricted my login and when I asked their support why I am unable to place bets they asked me if I am on vacation or changed my country of residence and I said the former obviously. They then asked me to make bets once I return to my residence country so maybe this is something crypto casinos and sportsbook can implement too if they want.

A player does not know if the website allows users from their country and at least the website should open a popup that reads, we do not accept members from your country, then 2 options: A- I am not from this country B- I am from this country, exit. This allows players to know they are breaking rules if they select option A intentionally.

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October 20, 2020, 06:44:47 AM
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it is really important for us as player to read TOS because by reading that we can know what is needed to us to avoid or what is not we cannot to do by using their gambling sites. I hope it will not happen to me what happened to the others but my country I think is not strict in the online gambling unless they implement to ban it for sure I cannot access the gambling website but I think if the system or apps will help to access a gambling sites that blocked from one country.
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October 20, 2020, 06:48:14 AM
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 Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
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This is a problem for most players. When you check the box that you have read and agree to the ToS, you are performing a legally significant action, which means that you fully and unconditionally agree to the rules and are ready to comply with them. If you are a resident of a country whose citizens are not allowed to play on this site, then you must leave this site yourself. The site should not calculate you by IP and block your access. After all, citizens of other countries may temporarily stay in your country and this will limit their ability to play.
Actually when I was on trip a few years back and tried to access bet365 they restricted my login and when I asked their support why I am unable to place bets they asked me if I am on vacation or changed my country of residence and I said the former obviously. They then asked me to make bets once I return to my residence country so maybe this is something crypto casinos and sportsbook can implement too if they want.
Seems you are not using VPN that time mate so they tracked your IP address and appear that you are using IP address in which comes from countries banned on their site.
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A player does not know if the website allows users from their country and at least the website should open a popup that reads, we do not accept members from your country, then 2 options: A- I am not from this country B- I am from this country, exit. This allows players to know they are breaking rules if they select option A intentionally.
This is how VPN is very important mate and the bad thing about your experience is you came don't know how to hide your IP address so checking is too easy for you.


Well, the main solution on how to deal with this is to avoid those sites,


Sometimes you will be at the places in which gambling is restricted or the sites you use to play is banned,option will be in place once this happens.









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October 20, 2020, 02:28:55 PM
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so I would like to hear your thoughts on how to deal with this kind of possibility that could happen to us since we still gamble despite knowing we are discourage not to.

Well, the main solution on how to deal with this is to avoid those sites,

If a certain gambling site included my country from their blacklist, then I do not consider trying to play on that site. No hassle if there will be some problems like this and there's no need for me to think of a solution if my account will be blocked if ever that I will be caught.

What if those sites are the best sites in the space? would you just gamble on sites with bad reputation that you are at a high risk of getting scam?
For me, I would rather gamble in a site that my country is in black list, as long as they'll not require KYC, they would not know but the moment my account will be compromise, I'm okay with it as I know the time would come.

This is a hypothetical question. If that happens, then I might also end up using the trusted site even if that site is not legally available in my country. But this is not the same with the reality. In reality, there are just so many available gambling sites out there with good reputations. We are not only given a few choices.

If the best site is blacklisting my country, that wouldn't be a problem at all because that does not mean that what is left are all bad sites. There must also be some good sites apart from the best one.

At the current market status, we can surely find a lot of alternatives, but that question is for those who really have a problem in gambling as most of the gambling sites are blacklisting their country, I think it's possible as regulators sometimes follow the same standard.

There are only a few countries where blacklisting is focused on. Countries such as Syria, Afghanistan, North Korea, etc. are among them. These are the common countries where gambling sites, ICO, exchanges, etc. are not offering their goods and services.

In these countries, it is hard to really find a gambling site catering to their citizens. If there are, most probably these are the sites which are not even licensed at all. So the risk is already there by the mere fact that you are gambling if you are from any of this country.

From that fact alone, you better not gamble at all or face the risk of having your account blocked as soon as it is discovered that you are from one of their restricted countries.
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October 20, 2020, 04:22:26 PM
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If its illegal then better not to proceed and if you do then expect on what would be things that would be possibly asked ahead.So its better to obey and just rather skipped out
if you do saw a gambling site that do prohibit out users on a certain region.Also with other terms as well that tied up to bonuses etc.

The thing is, most even don't know that they do illegal activities on gambling platforms just because they did not read the ToS. Of course, some ToS are really strange. But in the end it is your own responsibility to read the ToS before registration and if you check the box and it sounds okay, then you accept it, no matter how strange it may seem
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October 20, 2020, 05:02:31 PM
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If the site forces to pass KYC, then I would leave such a place without thinking! For geoblocking is usually suitable VPN service, with the choice of the country that is allowed on the site!

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October 20, 2020, 07:51:11 PM
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No legitimate gambling sites accepts bets from countries where gambling is illegal on purpose. READ their TERMS OF SERVICE. It is you who is breaching their terms of service. They clearly told you to stayaway from their casino, but you still enter and place bets over there. They are not required to ID check everyone, unless you seem suspicious. They do take measures to make sure people from restricted countries don't gamble in casino. But people easily circumvent into the casino and starts playing. So you can't blame the casino. Its like blaming the government if someone breaks the law.
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Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
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You should. They don't ask for you KYC right away, but they will eventually if you keep on playing and then you will lose your funds. I have seen a lot of people crying over here after their accounts got frozen because they broke their Terms.

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October 20, 2020, 07:59:29 PM
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 Personally, I don't read all the TOS in most sites I'm using as they didn't require a KYC so it's useless read all that when I believe I'm not covered since they will not know my real identity or where I am living.
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This is a problem for most players. When you check the box that you have read and agree to the ToS, you are performing a legally significant action, which means that you fully and unconditionally agree to the rules and are ready to comply with them. If you are a resident of a country whose citizens are not allowed to play on this site, then you must leave this site yourself. The site should not calculate you by IP and block your access. After all, citizens of other countries may temporarily stay in your country and this will limit their ability to play.
Actually when I was on trip a few years back and tried to access bet365 they restricted my login and when I asked their support why I am unable to place bets they asked me if I am on vacation or changed my country of residence and I said the former obviously. They then asked me to make bets once I return to my residence country so maybe this is something crypto casinos and sportsbook can implement too if they want.

A player does not know if the website allows users from their country and at least the website should open a popup that reads, we do not accept members from your country, then 2 options: A- I am not from this country B- I am from this country, exit. This allows players to know they are breaking rules if they select option A intentionally.

I also think that it is not necessary to restrict access to anyone just because they have an IP address from a country whose citizens are not allowed to play on the site. It is enough to issue a warning every time a person from this IP goes to the casino site in order for the person to confirm that he is not a citizen of a prohibited country.
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October 20, 2020, 10:07:28 PM
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it is really important for us as player to read TOS because by reading that we can know what is needed to us to avoid or what is not we cannot to do by using their gambling sites. I hope it will not happen to me what happened to the others but my country I think is not strict in the online gambling unless they implement to ban it for sure I cannot access the gambling website but I think if the system or apps will help to access a gambling sites that blocked from one country.
But who reads them, honestly speaking? A lot of people will shrug these agreements of because they want to jump off into the action immediately. Admittedly, I am one of those people. Nevertheless, if they can make reading it a bit interactive that will pump the percentage of the people who will read it. Perhaps give a bit of an incentive to the player for finishing a part of the TOS. Some kind of that.

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