Abusing The Bitcointalk Trust System For Personal And Selfish Interests

[Shef198911]

I have been working as a translator and social media for years with several companies such as Amazix, Moonvoyager.

Serious companies on the subject, but Bounty Detective is another level.

It has never failed me, and they are always clear.

In addition, they have managed to gain the trust of more than 500k followers.

Administrators of the Bitcointalk Forum should analyze the current situation well.

I send my best regards to all ...

Thank you Pedrillo0,

From the start of each of our campaigns, we have always maintained our words and cleared them on the bounty thread except for the case of Clipx bounty campaign whose CEO turned down our pleas 'not to go ahead with the KYC. We are happy with gaining our followers' trusts even if high ranked Bitcointalk members keep misusing the Trust system.

you are so naive, you think that I put neutral because of the response trust ? do you think you can fill the topic with paid messages and responses to them, and the moderators will see how good you are ? I will wait for the result) so I will return the trust that was

Are you paranoid? He has a hero rank and he works as a translator for the bounties we manage. Can you just leave us alone? Just go and sell more merits.

I think by creating this branch, you have already shown yourself what kind of person you are and how you can actually relate , you have already shown that you are absolutely indifferent to others, and some stupid reservations and ACCUSATIONS towards others... and you so look like my trust that almost every message write about it ? Believe me, it does not apply to you in any way, and accuse me now, since there were no sales, so you wrote to me "go SELL more" solve your problem before you climb into other people's for your own paddock

and please show proof that I was paid for this trust ! in this case you are trying to slander me without any evidence ! keep your assumptions without evidence to yourself, if every time you spoil the trust only with assumptions, without any evidence, then believe me in your trust you could do so that you read it like a book! dokazali wrote, if not then shut up!

So if you are honest, answer this:

rom the 28 bounties we managed, only Kingcasino was an exit scam. We don't know how you call it "a lot."

Bounty Detective's all guaranteed airdrop rewards have been successfully distributed. Only the ones which are still ongoing or have a deadline are pending. Only KingCasino bounty rewards are not distributed because those tokens have no value, and most of the community did not demand those tokens already.

Besides, trusting the words of a person who is selling merits equal to scamming is not the best option. We are sure that a merit seller person can also be paid by others to give this feedback about us.


If you can't answer that question honestly, you should continue to sell merits. You are good on that job, we are good on bounties. Why you get angry when we advise you to do a job you are a professional?

As we can see you are not professional on bounties: https://t.me/bounty_info That is your channel and a lot of scam/crap projects published there with amateur post theme and poor grammar.

Anyway man, we are really busy, please give it up this bullshit. If you want KCT tokens, contact our admins, they will pay you some. If you don't want it, just stop this bullshit, because you have been repeating the same things for the last 12 hours.

first of all, the trust States that king casino is guaranteed to receive the promised payments, and has not been paid.

 secondly - if it calms you down, I can change the trust by replacing it with "a lot of awards for which there were no payments, a waste of time" then according to your logic, companies such as BLOBFLOW, 1st Trade, CERVIERO, CO-Initiative and others will already be included here.

 third - in my trust ( which you liked so much), one word is written that you do not specify, this is "ATTEMPT", and it means that there were no direct sales, the issue is resolved, I'm not going to prove something to you, since this does not concern you.

fourth - Yes, this IS my channel and what companies I post it is not your business, since your companies are no longer there, and I do not encourage anyone to participate in them and do not guarantee that they will pay, and grammatical errors to notice from Google translator and write at all funny, the level of a schoolboy. Every time you make fun of yourself with your stupid, UNFOUNDED opinions, I also have a lot of things to think in your direction, should I mark it all in the trust, without even knowing whether it's really true or not ? Your solution to the problem is to try to take all possible ways to get revenge and ruin the trust. Better stop, you yourself will continue to spoil your reputation

[BountyDetective]

I have been working as a translator and social media for years with several companies such as Amazix, Moonvoyager.

Serious companies on the subject, but Bounty Detective is another level.

It has never failed me, and they are always clear.

In addition, they have managed to gain the trust of more than 500k followers.

Administrators of the Bitcointalk Forum should analyze the current situation well.

I send my best regards to all ...

Thank you Pedrillo0,

From the start of each of our campaigns, we have always maintained our words and cleared them on the bounty thread except for the case of Clipx bounty campaign whose CEO turned down our pleas 'not to go ahead with the KYC. We are happy with gaining our followers' trusts even if high ranked Bitcointalk members keep misusing the Trust system.

you are so naive, you think that I put neutral because of the response trust ? do you think you can fill the topic with paid messages and responses to them, and the moderators will see how good you are ? I will wait for the result) so I will return the trust that was

Are you paranoid? He has a hero rank and he works as a translator for the bounties we manage. Can you just leave us alone? Just go and sell more merits.

I think by creating this branch, you have already shown yourself what kind of person you are and how you can actually relate , you have already shown that you are absolutely indifferent to others, and some stupid reservations and ACCUSATIONS towards others... and you so look like my trust that almost every message write about it ? Believe me, it does not apply to you in any way, and accuse me now, since there were no sales, so you wrote to me "go SELL more" solve your problem before you climb into other people's for your own paddock

and please show proof that I was paid for this trust ! in this case you are trying to slander me without any evidence ! keep your assumptions without evidence to yourself, if every time you spoil the trust only with assumptions, without any evidence, then believe me in your trust you could do so that you read it like a book! dokazali wrote, if not then shut up!

So if you are honest, answer this:

rom the 28 bounties we managed, only Kingcasino was an exit scam. We don't know how you call it "a lot."

Bounty Detective's all guaranteed airdrop rewards have been successfully distributed. Only the ones which are still ongoing or have a deadline are pending. Only KingCasino bounty rewards are not distributed because those tokens have no value, and most of the community did not demand those tokens already.

Besides, trusting the words of a person who is selling merits equal to scamming is not the best option. We are sure that a merit seller person can also be paid by others to give this feedback about us.


If you can't answer that question honestly, you should continue to sell merits. You are good on that job, we are good on bounties. Why you get angry when we advise you to do a job you are a professional?

As we can see you are not professional on bounties: https://t.me/bounty_info That is your channel and a lot of scam/crap projects published there with amateur post theme and poor grammar.

Anyway man, we are really busy, please give it up this bullshit. If you want KCT tokens, contact our admins, they will pay you some. If you don't want it, just stop this bullshit, because you have been repeating the same things for the last 12 hours.

first of all, the trust States that king casino is guaranteed to receive the promised payments, and has not been paid.

 secondly - if it calms you down, I can change the trust by replacing it with "a lot of awards for which there were no payments, a waste of time" then according to your logic, companies such as BLOBFLOW, 1st Trade, CERVIERO, CO-Initiative and others will already be included here.

 third - in my trust ( which you liked so much), one word is written that you do not specify, this is "ATTEMPT", and it means that there were no direct sales, the issue is resolved, I'm not going to prove something to you, since this does not concern you.

fourth - Yes, this IS my channel and what companies I post it is not your business, since your companies are no longer there, and I do not encourage anyone to participate in them and do not guarantee that they will pay, and grammatical errors to notice from Google translator and write at all funny, the level of a schoolboy. Every time you make fun of yourself with your stupid, UNFOUNDED opinions, I also have a lot of things to think in your direction, should I mark it all in the trust, without even knowing whether it's really true or not ? Your solution to the problem is to try to take all possible ways to get revenge and ruin the trust. Better stop, you yourself will continue to spoil your reputation

Man, I understand nothing from what you write. You even confused Google Translate. Can you end this conversation? Don't participate in our bounties, and don't share them in your "wonderful" channel. It is so simple. What do you want from us? Stop it, and we are busy. You being a scammer is proven. You have sold merits several times. We don't want to waste our time with you. We told the same thing 100 times, but you did not understand. Keep saying the same thing: "None of the guaranteed bounties were paid" We count you several projects you still say the same thing. Your kind of people are trouble for this industry. You can't manage a crap channel below 500 followers, but you try to teach us our job. It is a ridiculous man. Just leave us alone, man, we are really busy.

[Shef198911]

are you trying to slander me now, what kind of fraud am I? what are the multiple times sales merits? Evidence of these sales right in this topic, you are blatantly lying, trying to make yourself innocent, I'm waiting here for evidence for each of my sales as you claim, where is it written that I sold several times? you are now trying to defile my reputation with blatant lies, and this is worthy behavior of BM?

[Christelle92]

i have read all the post, I think that it was a very good idea that you published this post, because it's a fact that many legendary members and other old members in Bitcointalk forum are abusing the trust system for their own interests.
Sometimes, when a legendary or full member has a rival in its own field, for example a video creator has other rival idea creators, he can abuse the use of the trust system... etc

I think this forum, even if it's the oldest, and the most known forum in crypto, has to be reformed, so no one can have the authority to give another one a red trust.

i think some of those legendary members have forgotten that crypto is decentralized, so no one can have the absolute authority on others. especially when we know that BOUNTY DETECTIVE is a legit bounty group, and that most of its bounties were successful...

[BountyDetective]

i have read all the post, I think that it was a very good idea that you published this post, because it's a fact that many legendary members and other old members in Bitcointalk forum are abusing the trust system for their own interests.
Sometimes, when a legendary or full member has a rival in its own field, for example a video creator has other rival idea creators, he can abuse the use of the trust system... etc

I think this forum, even if it's the oldest, and the most known forum in crypto, has to be reformed, so no one can have the authority to give another one a red trust.

i think some of those legendary members have forgotten that crypto is decentralized, so no one can have the absolute authority on others. especially when we know that BOUNTY DETECTIVE is a legit bounty group, and that most of its bounties were successful...

Thank you, Christelle,

Don't worry, maybe some of them have high ranks from a few years ago, and they are abusing their rank for their personal benefits, but believe me, they are weak. They have so many haters, they scammed so many people, as everyone can see on their profiles. Our community is bigger and stronger than those kinds of people's only several supporters.


They may have the "negative feedback opportunity" that they use a weapon instead of justice, but we are right, and we are not dirty, so we are stronger. Suchmoon: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771 has scammed hundreds of people, but interestingly he is still acting as Christ!

It is weird that Bitcointalk moderators giving more chances those kinds of people. There are fair and honest people who can manage this forum 1000 times better than those people. They are dirty, they have hundreds of scam accusations. Sooner or later, Bitcointalk will be cleaned from those fascists.

The Crypto industry will not surrender these kinds of abusers. Crypto covers freedom and transparency, which those guys have no idea about them. We will do our best to uncover those kinds of people. Therefore, this forum will be cleaner and more trustworthy.

We will still continue to manage the bounties, in the best way we can do, even if we don't make any profit, we will not surrender.

[yahoo62278]

I have been working as a translator and social media for years with several companies such as Amazix, Moonvoyager.

Serious companies on the subject, but Bounty Detective is another level.

It has never failed me, and they are always clear.

In addition, they have managed to gain the trust of more than 500k followers.

Administrators of the Bitcointalk Forum should analyze the current situation well.

I send my best regards to all ...

Thank you Pedrillo0,

From the start of each of our campaigns, we have always maintained our words and cleared them on the bounty thread except for the case of Clipx bounty campaign whose CEO turned down our pleas 'not to go ahead with the KYC. We are happy with gaining our followers' trusts even if high ranked Bitcointalk members keep misusing the Trust system.

you are so naive, you think that I put neutral because of the response trust ? do you think you can fill the topic with paid messages and responses to them, and the moderators will see how good you are ? I will wait for the result) so I will return the trust that was

Are you paranoid? He has a hero rank and he works as a translator for the bounties we manage. Can you just leave us alone? Just go and sell more merits.

I think by creating this branch, you have already shown yourself what kind of person you are and how you can actually relate , you have already shown that you are absolutely indifferent to others, and some stupid reservations and ACCUSATIONS towards others... and you so look like my trust that almost every message write about it ? Believe me, it does not apply to you in any way, and accuse me now, since there were no sales, so you wrote to me "go SELL more" solve your problem before you climb into other people's for your own paddock

and please show proof that I was paid for this trust ! in this case you are trying to slander me without any evidence ! keep your assumptions without evidence to yourself, if every time you spoil the trust only with assumptions, without any evidence, then believe me in your trust you could do so that you read it like a book! dokazali wrote, if not then shut up!

So if you are honest, answer this:

From the 28 bounties we managed, only Kingcasino was an exit scam. We don't know how you call it "a lot."

"Bounty Detective's all guaranteed rewards have been successfully distributed. Only the ones which are still ongoing or have a deadline are pending. KingCasino bounty rewards are not distributed because those tokens have no value, and most of the community did not demand those tokens already"

IOI, HOMT, HEX, ARCS, Ludena bounties' distributions were guaranteed by us, and we distributed them. Why are you trying to manipulate people with your lies?


If you can't answer that question honestly, you should continue to sell merits. You are good on that job, we are good on bounties. Why you get angry when we advise you to do a job you are a professional?

As we can see you are not professional on bounties: https://t.me/bounty_info That is your channel and a lot of scam/crap projects published there with amateur post theme and poor grammar.

Anyway man, we are really busy, please give it up this bullshit. If you want KCT tokens, contact our admins, they will pay you some. If you don't want it, just stop this bullshit, because you have been repeating the same things for the last 12 hours.

You don't appear to be showing you are capable of anything except deflection and retaliation. Anyone who says anything against you is starting to instantly be accused of crap without you posting any proof. I also checked the trust you've sent, and it all looks like retaliatory bullshit as well.

You gotta earn respect around here. Paying out a couple bounty campaigns does not you respect. Still many ongoing campaigns from what I'm reading and they all have the possibility to scam still. You are not taking any precautions to protect the bounty hunters, just blindly trusting teams to pay.

My opinion, you are a risk to work for.

FYI don't start saying i'm slandering you to help myself. I haven't taken a new bounty project since 2018.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

First, let me say that am a member in bounty detective community, I've monitored several of their bounties but have never participated in any of them, I have friends though, who are die hard participants of bounty detective bounties and they were the ones who introduced me to their platform based on how well they trust bounties hosted and managed by bounty detectives.

I've read this topic and comments from A to Z, though I don't have the power to judge but I will try to say what I think.

First, I will like to make it clear that it's true that some high ranked members are abusing the privileges that come with that rank, and its not fair on the members just starting out on this forum, cus most times, they are the ones who suffer this abuse and in return, their businesses and relationships with other members in terms of trust suffers....for example, A hero/legendary member can speak very rudely to a newbie but a newbie can't reply back rudely cus he or she will possibly get a negative/red trust, and if newbie tries to fight back, he or she is instantly tagged a potential scammer if not careful, might even get a ban hammer.
If the authorities are reading this, I personally think the time to reform this forum is long over due.

And back to the topic of discussion, I personally think you "bounty detectives" is not helping at all in getting your unmerited negative trust issues resolved, i feel the rage, anger and impatient in every reply towards anyone who tends to disagrees with you, and i think this attitude Alone will negatively affect the kind of judgment you will get if by chance, the authorities decides to take up this case though I personally feel you don't deserve the negative trust you got, You don't fight fire with fire, cus if you do, many other things including the ones you don't expect to burn will all burn, You fight fire with water, you blocked some one on your telegram for being rude to your MD, and here you are being the same rude in some of your replies, Making the law with one hand and breaking it with the other hand (forgetting that both hands are internally connected) is not a proper way of life , if someone was rude at you, and you decide to report the matter to the general public, you try and be civil, ive read you write several times that you can't say sorry or apologize to anyone for managing a bounty of a failed or scam project, you forget that at times, saying sorry does not necessarily mean we are wrong, most times, it's just for peace to rain, that's all.

Though I know how bad you must feel for having to deal with such injustice from someone you believe is of higher rank and power than you, i still personally implore you to try to be more civil in replying your critics, it will go a long way in helping to resolve this issue.

Thank you.

[suchmoon]

A hero/legendary member can speak very rudely to a newbie but a newbie can't reply back rudely cus he or she will possibly get a negative/red trust, and if newbie tries to fight back, he or she is instantly tagged a potential scammer if not careful, might even get a ban hammer.

Fight back for what? If the problem is just rude language then they have nothing to fight back about. Any rank has the same "privilege" of ignoring anything they don't like. However if there is untrustworthy behavior involved then rude language shouldn't give them immunity, again - regardless of rank.

And "Hero/legendary members" can't ban anyone. Only moderators can and it only happens if one egregiously breaks the rules, which does not include being rude.

[TheUltraElite]

Hmm so this is supposed to be a discussion on a somewhat healthy section of this forum and thread was posted just yesterday and withing 24hours we have a 5pages worth of replies of which only a few are worth reading because the rest if a copy of what altcoin spamming sections have.

What good does it have if you bring in your bounty minion crew on a Reputation thread? Nothing. They just spam like brain dead gang without addressing the issue at hand.

We humans always like to hear good about ourselves - that is a fact, does not mean that it improves our bad attributes, but only brushes them under the carpet.

[YOSHIE]

I am totally dizzy with this thread.
This is beyond my expectation, I initially PM @ xenon131, here to solve the problem between @BountyDetective with @xenon131, as well as @Mpamaegbu being involved in this, but @Mpamaegbu has already provided an answer about his friendliness here;

Post by: @Mpamaegbu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55352788#msg55352788

Post by: @Mpamaegbu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55353351#msg55353351

I thought the problem was under control and resolved.


But another problem arose, @BountyDetective claimed something to:@xenon131 who never did, korean translation here:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281160.msg55352989#msg55352989, This is really a problem that will not be resolved, it could get more complicated and end up getting worse, I think, it's out of emotional control.


@BountyDetective & @xenon131, I don't know your talk anymore, I can only watch this time, I think I can mediate in this case, however, no, my brain melted this time seeing this case, outside my brain.

Regards.
I'm done here.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

A hero/legendary member can speak very rudely to a newbie but a newbie can't reply back rudely cus he or she will possibly get a negative/red trust, and if newbie tries to fight back, he or she is instantly tagged a potential scammer if not careful, might even get a ban hammer.

Fight back for what? If the problem is just rude language then they have nothing to fight back about. Any rank has the same "privilege" of ignoring anything they don't like. However if there is untrustworthy behavior involved then rude language shouldn't give them immunity, again - regardless of rank.

And "Hero/legendary members" can't ban anyone. Only moderators can and it only happens if one egregiously breaks the rules, which does not include being rude.

Put ignore aside man, cus ignoring something I don't like is a choice I have to make for myself , and in a case where am deeply offended to the extent I feel ignoring is too great a sacrifice to make, you still expect me to ignore right, ?? Not possible cus that's an injustice to my own self, there's a level to what a person can take, there's a way i will talk to you and the same you preaching ignore here won't even remember there's a word like "ignore" in the dictionary.

So please put "ignore" aside cus it does not apply to every situation.

[Mpamaegbu]

Let me quickly put it here - I just discovered now that there has been an attempt to hack my Telegram account. This is the first of its kind for me since I started using it a few years ago. I can't really say what the person behind it is trying to achieve or prove. The handle is @kenngurai. The whole thing just went blank as I tried to access it.

Please, no one should respond to any posts or pms from that handle until I get this sorted out today when am back from church. I will post here once that is done. Thanks.

Edited: I am now able to access the handle again. I think everything is well now.

[suchmoon]

So please put "ignore" aside cus it does not apply to every situation.

If you think fighting back with rude responses is a viable strategy then "ignore" is too and it's far more effective. If someone is offended by rude language then inflaming the situation to get more rude language in response sounds like a bad idea.

[robit17]

I have never regretted being a member of the bounty detective, I follow them and always get paid according to the rules, you can see, how the participants in each bounty they hold, really very busy, professional bounty detective bounty manager

[suchmoon]

I have never regretted being a member of the bounty detective, I follow them and always get paid according to the rules, you can see, how the participants in each bounty they hold, really very busy, professional bounty detective bounty manager

You're late to the party, newbie shill. Your revered bounty manager has already used the 5 pages of this thread to prove that they're anything but "professional". Complaining about trust abuse and abusing the trust system against users speaking out. Real classy.

[rana2rana]

you are very very trusted and honest bounty manager me and my friend with u from your start and joined your every bounty and received reward and got profit this form is very useful but by some mistakes we dis heart
but hope for better.

[BountyDetective]

you are very very trusted and honest bounty manager me and my friend with u from your start and joined your every bounty and received reward and got profit this form is very useful but by some mistakes we dis heart
but hope for better.

Thank you for your good words. We are stronger with our supporters. This post has been published to prove how some people in Bitcointalk (Called Bitcointalk Gang) are abusing the trust system. And the gang prove it already.

We get thousands of positive feedbacks from our followers, especially on our Telegram group. We understand many people can't comment in this thread because they will get a "negative trust" from the "untrusted gang."


These kinds of people already destroyed Bitcointalk's reputation. The traffic of Bitcointalk on Alexa is decreasing every day. Some of the "trusted moderators" in this blog has hundreds of scam complaints about them. Interestingly, nothing happens to them. Because they are sharing the pie, they don't touch each other.

Never mind. Bounty Detective will continue to do this job whatever it costs. We know many "bounty managers" are being crazy and trying to discredit us. We don't mind.

We are sure that there are still too many honorable and honest moderators in this forum. Sooner or later, this issue will be fixed. Those kinds of arrogant guys who are nothing when they "logout" their Bitcointalk account, will be cleaned.

The world is changing, so the crypto world. Transparency of the blockchain can't be manipulated. They can only gain some more time.

The greatest bounty website, including a forum, is on the way.

Best regards.

[Daveprofile]

For me, Bounty detective is an excellent and fruitful company. Despite the lockdown and shortage of Bounties, they have continued getting bounty. They have been striving to give their  best. But just like every other firm, no firm is perfect.
Kingcasino and Clipx were beyond their control.

I will stick around as long as possible.

[BountyDetective]

For me, Bounty detective is an excellent and fruitful company. Despite the lockdown and shortage of Bounties, they have continued getting bounty. They have been striving to give their  best. But just like every other firm, no firm is perfect.
Kingcasino and Clipx were beyond their control.

I will stick around as long as possible.

Thank you Dave. Transparency and honesty, that is what crypto needs.

[jademaxsuy]

We could not help this kind of activity unless there will be a change the way the admin wanted to make it happen. For now trusted users are doing their job well and has been making some good flags with those account that are doing scam around or other illegal activities.

The implementation of trust system has good intention it is just that there are few users who had been making fun of the system by destroying other's reputation and does making it worst like sending few other users as well.