I'm broke in real life. I lost most of my money.

[Passionate]

Okay long story short, I've been earning my money since 2014 by doing CPA and Pay-Per-Install campaigns from different publisher networks (these are the kind of networks that gives you $0.5 USD per install of an app) but now I've bellied down and I haven't thought of saving...

My question, is there anything else I can do to make money online that are somewhat in the grayhat and blackhat area?

While I'm aware that some people might take this post negatively and trash it because it doesn't affect them, I still have faith and is looking for some thoughtful advice or information that can get along way.

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[mk4]

My question, is there anything else I can do to make money online that are somewhat in the grayhat and blackhat area?

If you're going to stoop that low, you're just setting yourself a lot closer to being a total failure. And not only a total failure, but also a shitty person that's a waste of oxygen.

Why go the dark side when anyone can legitimately make money without harming others? Seriously, we really have it easy having access to the internet. I learned about freakin finance, economics, and investing(though I'm aware I'm not an expert) without a related degree; and I've known people who didn't even go to college but managed to learn programming online. Why can't you?

[Passionate]

My question, is there anything else I can do to make money online that are somewhat in the grayhat and blackhat area?

If you're going to stoop that low, you're just setting yourself a lot closer to being a total failure. And not only a total failure, but also a shitty person that's a waste of oxygen.

Why go the dark side when anyone can legitimately make money without harming others? Seriously, we really have it easy having access to the internet. I learned about freakin finance, economics, and investing(though I'm aware I'm not an expert) without a related degree; and I've known people who didn't even go to college but managed to learn programming online. Why can't you?

Thanks for the heads up. I guess this is like karma for me and I think this is the time I have to turn things around without having to go through that route.

I don't really know what to do now. Things have gotten difficult in such a short span of time.

[mk4]

Thanks for the heads up. I guess this is like karma for me and I think this is the time I have to turn things around without having to go through that route.

I don't really know what to do now. Things have gotten difficult in such a short span of time.

Calm your ass and get yourself together. Everyone has down moments in their life. The success of a person just depends on how he/she gets outside the shithole and continue fighting.

[JeromeTash]

The most valuable asset you have or had is/was Time and not the money you think you have lost. Imagine this, since 2014, you have been wasting time on those Pay Per Install campaigns which earned you peanuts and now you are stuck. Since you seem to be some leaning towards discovering bugs and vulnerabilities. If only you had used that time and data plans to learn programming or coding. You would be miles far right now.

There so many crypto projects looking for developers, web designers or even pay handsomely for bug bounties, and no I don't recommend you to go into that bad practice of black hat hacking or whatever. Karma will always follow you.
It's never too late to learn something and get your life in order. Knowledge is power.

Each one of us here has had challenges at one point in life. It's what makes us human. Otherwise, do you think it's cool turning into someone evil every time you are faced with a challenge? I don't think so.

[Taskford]

Okay long story short, I've been earning my money since 2014 by doing CPA and Pay-Per-Install campaigns from different publisher networks (these are the kind of networks that gives you $0.5 USD per install of an app) but now I've bellied down and I haven't thought of saving...

My question, is there anything else I can do to make money online that are somewhat in the grayhat and blackhat area?

While I'm aware that some people might take this post negatively and trash it because it doesn't affect them, I still have faith and is looking for some thoughtful advice or information that can get along way.

You are already here and you can market yourself, sell some service to the people or do some some remote jobs. Also other options is to work as community managers on telegram and find them on altcoin section or maybe I'm service section. And many more just open up your us for the opportunities as well trust yourself that you can do the job correctly if you are been hired.

[Becky666]

Haven your money lost and get broke isn't a yardstick to get involve into illegal activities as mentioned. Life itself isn't balance dude, and we should take the right steps in fighting our ways through the hard times(we all went through this). We were once broke, even the rich also get broke too, but getting the right source out of the shit is the best strategy for mankind, so, don't be depress, shake it off because it doesn't ends well.

Nothing works wonders like a focus mind dude, getting the needed focus should be the right option for you than doing otherwise. As others have encouraged, kindly get yourself together and make positive move towards achieving your goals. Being IT base individual, you're half succeed in the world of crypto, get involve into a good crypto project to have your finance life back on track. Wish you good luck!.

[aioc]

Okay long story short, I've been earning my money since 2014 by doing CPA and Pay-Per-Install campaigns from different publisher networks (these are the kind of networks that gives you $0.5 USD per install of an app) but now I've bellied down and I haven't thought of saving...

My question, is there anything else I can do to make money online that are somewhat in the grayhat and blackhat area?

While I'm aware that some people might take this post negatively and trash it because it doesn't affect them, I still have faith and is looking for some thoughtful advice or information that can get along way.

I don't want to put you down but why go in the blackhat area you means hacking or some illegal stuff, there legal ways to make money online and the best and the most effective one is the one that you alone can do better, you mentioned that you are good in pay per install and CPA these kind of schemes is not easy to do for the average guy why not go back here and dig more.

[Passionate]

Calm your ass and get yourself together. Everyone has down moments in their life. The success of a person just depends on how he/she gets outside the shithole and continue fighting.

The most valuable asset you have or had is/was Time and not the money you think you have lost. Imagine this, since 2014, you have been wasting time on those Pay Per Install campaigns which earned you peanuts and now you are stuck. Since you seem to be some leaning towards discovering bugs and vulnerabilities. If only you had used that time and data plans to learn programming or coding. You would be miles far right now.

There so many crypto projects looking for developers, web designers or even pay handsomely for bug bounties, and no I don't recommend you to go into that bad practice of black hat hacking or whatever. Karma will always follow you.
It's never too late to learn something and get your life in order. Knowledge is power.

Each one of us here has had challenges at one point in life. It's what makes us human. Otherwise, do you think it's cool turning into someone evil every time you are faced with a challenge? I don't think so.

You are already here and you can market yourself, sell some service to the people or do some some remote jobs. Also other options is to work as community managers on telegram and find them on altcoin section or maybe I'm service section. And many more just open up your us for the opportunities as well trust yourself that you can do the job correctly if you are been hired.

Haven your money lost and get broke isn't a yardstick to get involve into illegal activities as mentioned. Life itself isn't balance dude, and we should take the right steps in fighting our ways through the hard times(we all went through this). We were once broke, even the rich also get broke too, but getting the right source out of the shit is the best strategy for mankind, so, don't be depress, shake it off because it doesn't ends well.

Nothing works wonders like a focus mind dude, getting the needed focus should be the right option for you than doing otherwise. As others have encouraged, kindly get yourself together and make positive move towards achieving your goals. Being IT base individual, you're half succeed in the world of crypto, get involve into a good crypto project to have your finance life back on track. Wish you good luck!.

Damn I'm in tears reading these. Now I'm going to take action and will drop those bad things away.

I'm grateful to all of you, thanks for showing kindness to a random like me.

My skills are mostly ad creation and I'll be using that to my advantage while I get back on track.

[mk4]

My skills are mostly ad creation and I'll be using that to my advantage while I get back on track.

Good. In the current world situation, ad creatives-related jobs are so in demand due to people gearing towards online shopping.

1. Create accounts on UpWork, etc, to potentially increase the chances of you getting hired.
2. Cold email businesses and propose ad services to them(DO NOT spam).
3. Don't give up. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Good luck.

[Ryker1]

Well bro, --life gets hard. Do not be afraid to face it and going to the gray-hat area as your option is not a good one. You can still recover and do not use this situation negatively. Hence, use it as your advantage that you learned your lessons already. That you can still stand up, do the things that you should do next time to avoid the same situation right now, and humble yourself. In that, you will still be able to become the best version of yourself.

[pixie85]

I don't know how much you were able to make by doing those campaigns and what are your goals. I mean you can easily make a few dollars here on the forum in the services section.

If you know a rare language and can translate something or rewrite some things for people. I saw offers for article writers and people who can do data entry, there's also a lot of offers for people who can advertise stuff and work as agents in different parts of the world.

The most important thing is to never give up and think outside the box. If you can't find work online maybe look at something in your area. When I had no money I tried to many different things. I'd even mow lawns or look for scrap to sell.

[cheezcarls]

Okay long story short, I've been earning my money since 2014 by doing CPA and Pay-Per-Install campaigns from different publisher networks (these are the kind of networks that gives you $0.5 USD per install of an app) but now I've bellied down and I haven't thought of saving...

My question, is there anything else I can do to make money online that are somewhat in the grayhat and blackhat area?

While I'm aware that some people might take this post negatively and trash it because it doesn't affect them, I still have faith and is looking for some thoughtful advice or information that can get along way.

Hello dude! Hope you are doing okay. Before I worked with crypto, blockchain and DeFi, I'm also doing CPA campaigns as well (incentivized market) before calling it quit and focusing on my virtual assistant career.

I've been there like you man. Not once, but many times in my life. I've gone through hell a lot, especially on the worst days of my life and met the rock bottom. I was drowned it debt, and I'm even a victim of phishing scams too (around $2k scammed).

You know what I did? Just like what the final Avengers movie had said, "Whatever it takes".  

I never stop finding whatever work I could find on the internet. I only have $20 left on my wallet that time with no more income source and it was December where we should be spending money for gifts. Whether it be article writing, link building, social media promotion and management, data entry, etc. I never stopped until I've landed one client and gave me advanced payment in order for me to buy Xmas gifts for my loved ones and paying some debts of course.

And on top of that, I have enhanced my skills by doing videos. Until I met crypto and changed my life.

My advice to you. Stop whining that you are broke. I know that this is kind of harsh, but you need to get your butt up and do a "whatever it takes" mindset to land a client or job to support your needs. Learn new skills. That's what I've been doing, and it's all paid off. But I never stop learning some more.  

[seoincorporation]

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My question, is there anything else I can do to make money online that are somewhat in the grayhat and blackhat area?
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By the blackhat area looks like you want to make money by hacking or by extortion... The money making on those areas are not clean money, it always comes by users getting attacked.

So, if you are a hacker why you don't swap to the whitehat methods and try to get clean money? a nice way to do this is by searching bugs on casinos and reporting them, i have done this in the past and most of the casinos appreciate it. You should try it

[GDragon]

There are chances you've get a decent job online without being inside a grayhat one. If you are good in ad creation, you can expand your knowledge about it, is it social media ads, video ads, and etc. You can create accounts on upwork and other freelancing websites. Do your research first on how you can get accepted as a freelancer. I suggest researching about the freelancers already earning there so you already have the idea on what career are you taking, build your portfolio on that career. You can also try video editing if you've been there already, Virtual assistant career is in the market too. There are a bunch of choices, try joing social media groups talking about how to get a job online, there are a bunch of tips and inspirations there from other freelancers online.

[OgNasty]

Being broke is a gift. Enjoy the freedom. Don’t spend time envying those with money. With more money comes more problems. I’ve heard the best gift you can give someone is wealth, so that they can see money doesn’t solve problems, it creates them. Once that is learned, I believe people would spend more time coveting good health, relationships and useful skills.

Think about what you’d do with a million dollars... Once that money is spent, imagine your life. More property taxes, insurance, security costs, etc. This is how people enslave themselves to money as you will never have enough to make your problems go away. Chasing money is a fool’s errand and a task that will keep you unfulfilled your entire life.

[jossiel]

It's part of life but you can something better. Reflect yourself, appreciate what you have right now, and have time to think first in which part you failed. Then, when you are finally fine, start thinking of things where you can start again.

Like, learning a new skill or selling the skill that you have learned with that failure. As long as we live, there's always the chances that we can take and it's no time to give up in the midst of the pandemic. Cheer up, reinvent yourself.

[NotATether]

Learn some skills man. There's no such thing as free money, and I should know that well.

You have internet right? If you didn't you wouldn't be able to make this thread. So if you really want money, pick a course you want to take, even if it's something you don't like, and watch some videos about it.

Practice.

Practice the courses you learn whether they are technological or physical work.

For example, you could learn IT management, and then you will be fit to be hired. It will take several months, but the long way is the only way.

Or if you are lucky, there are low-tech jobs close to you like cashiers and fast-food worker positions you can take. Unless you are in a position where you can't go around outside? 

Even if that's the case, there is always a way out and up into the normal world. You just have to fight for it.

There is no short path to prosperity. Each assert you get, you have to fight for.

[Ziskinberg]

That post of yours is not trash or negative, I even expect a begging thread but I was wrong as you were just asking for suggestions on job you can do to earn, we are in a tough situation man so I understand, hope you will learn that savings is very important as not every day is a rainy day.

if you have a lot of patience, check the bounty section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0

[NotATether]

if you have a lot of patience, check the bounty section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=238.0

Bounties will not earn you enough money to make a living, OP said he's broke. You'll only make like $100 in the span of several months, and that isn't enough to cover even basic expenses or to live out of a car.

Which I why I suggested to learn skills while it's still possible, online ways of making money always fail you unless it's an online, incorporated, business.