Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...crypto is useless...

[smartcontracts100]

Same for eth ... also eth has cancellation fee ,many many errors ...

I'm sure Vitalik will reward you generously if you would be that kind to point the many errors ETh has.

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...
1-2 hours to confirm bitcoin transaction ... if i go to a fast food and pay with bitcoin for my burger and fanta i got to wait 1 hour for just one confirm ... some times more

PcGarage or Evomag   Not good enough for you?
And if you want food, why is the timing that important now with the lockdown, my friends tells me that restaurants are closed in your country anyhow.
Other than that why the hell do you even care about it, are you out of things to hate for the day and started this to relieve more of your frustrations?

do not compare evomag and pcgarage with emag or altex ...

evomag and pcgarage are tiny shops

[suzanne5223]

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

Go to Bitrefill.com. There you can buy balance and coupons for shops like Amazon, Apple Store, Netflix, IKEA, Playstation and many more (depends also on the country you come from). There are so many different companies /shops listed in my country that I could basically make all my important purchases only through Bitcoin. Bitrefill has been on the market for years and can therefore be considered very serious. So far I have made only good experiences.

Also compare transfer fees

Let's say i want to transfer money from country A to country B .... Moneygram,Western Union is cheaper then Localcryptos or paxful or localbitcoins etc...

Are you kidding me? $11,380,970 worth of Bitcoin was sent today with just $2.75 which you and I know is impossible send just $100 with $2.75 using money Gram or Western Union but you mistaking if you judge BTC transaction fee through the charges on paxful or localbitcoin because every peer to peer exchange site charge some ridiculous fee. However, is not up to Wu/MG fee.

[smartcontracts100]

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

Go to Bitrefill.com. There you can buy balance and coupons for shops like Amazon, Apple Store, Netflix, IKEA, Playstation and many more (depends also on the country you come from). There are so many different companies /shops listed in my country that I could basically make all my important purchases only through Bitcoin. Bitrefill has been on the market for years and can therefore be considered very serious. So far I have made only good experiences.

Also compare transfer fees

Let's say i want to transfer money from country A to country B .... Moneygram,Western Union is cheaper then Localcryptos or paxful or localbitcoins etc...

Are you kidding me? $11,380,970 worth of Bitcoin was sent today with just $2.75 which you and I know is impossible send just $100 with $2.75 using money Gram or Western Union but you mistaking if you judge BTC transaction fee through the charges on paxful or localbitcoin because every peer to peer exchange site charge some ridiculous fee. However, is not up to Wu/MG fee.

No  no no sweetie (hopping your a girl and not some fat guy ) ...your math is wrong...

First  user from country A has to buy BTC ,easiest way to buy btc is via p2p trading platforms ...as it's cheap ... he pays +3% - 5% to buy 10000 usd

Moving btc from wallet A to wallet B  is cheap

Now user B has to exchange it to fiat ...it cost him around +3% - 5% trader fee + a small bank fee

So cost to send 10k around 10%

User A has to send 11000 USD so that user B gets 10000 USD as fiat ... via crypto


Via moneygram



Fee is 104.99 usd via debit card/credit card

[goldade]

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

The reason you can't buy stuffs with crypto yet is simply because it has not been massively adopted in the mainstream. Just because this is so doesn't mean bitcoin or crypto is useless. It can be used for a whole lot of other things.
If you take just a minute or two to check through the numerous benefits of bitcoin and crypto, you'd realize the other benefits of bitcoin other than using it to buy stuff.
I mean you can simply hodl your coins in the meantime as an investment. Many have made money that way. You can also choose to trade it although this requires skills and knowledge.

Ps. There are several sites that accept bitcoin. They have been listed by those before me

[TopTort777]

Airbaltic airline accepts bitcoin as a payment for tickets https://www.airbaltic.com/airbaltic-worlds-first-airline-to-accept-bitcoin.

They do is since 2014 and claim to be first airline to accept bitcoin as a payment. But according to this article (https://bitcoinist.com/it-doesnt-work-cryptocurrency-community-tells-airbaltic-to-ditch-bitpay/) they do not accept bitcoin and used that name just get attention.

[Nhor1011]

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

Maybe just in your country you can say that crypto is useless but not in other country because other country are now moving forward to accept crypto. Also cryptocurrency are already used for online payments and also some business establishment and stores are not accepting it. Here in our country ,I can pay my bills using crypto , So I think crypto is not useless and remember that this time of pandemic crypto become an alternative source of income of many people just to survive from this situation.

[n0ne]

From the very beginning days of bitcoin, it has got its usage on different services. These services with cryptocurrency acceptance hasn't gained good visibility, because of its services being offered within specific limits. Mostly on western nations, America and Japan has got large number of shops accepting bitcoin. Crypto isn't useless it is in its early adoption into real-time usage.

[carlfebz2]

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

This is the part on where you're wrong on what you had said. You want a list?
Check this one: https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin/who-accepts/

Also this one on few sites too:
https://icoholder.com/blog/places-accept-bitcoin/

Crypto is useless? Think again.

[pixie85]

OP is talking like the only purpose of Bitcoin is to be a currency.

First  user from country A has to buy BTC ,easiest way to buy btc is via p2p trading platforms ...as it's cheap ... he pays +3% - 5% to buy 10000 usd

Moving btc from wallet A to wallet B  is cheap

Now user B has to exchange it to fiat ...it cost him around +3% - 5% trader fee + a small bank fee

I don't know why you insist on using expensive exchanges when there  are much cheaper options around.

Even though I'm not using Coinbase anymore their fee for EU citizens is 1.49% and fiat bank transfers are free of charge.

[teosanru]

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

So just because someone like you woke up today and couldn't find something to buy with bitcoin we declare crypto useless? Even though many others have surely given you websites showing what all can you buy using crypto I think the primary accomplishment for cryptocurrency is that without any regulation and intermediary in a matter of merely 11 years it has been able to establish that trust between two people that atleast some things are being sold over internet using cryptos. It would take time for this culture to develop. What most peopel fail to realize is that this whole system is trust based. This is a slow process which is improving each day. The stores each day are increasing. I see this as a pure success for cryptos.

[20kevin20]

So cost to send 10k around 10%

User A has to send 11000 USD so that user B gets 10000 USD as fiat ... via crypto

Peer-to-peer has its costs as well. The fact that p2p traders charge 3-5% is not Bitcoin's issue. If you find the right person, you could trade at way better prices. If price and % is extremely important to you, there are even other options to consider such as centralized exchanges - the top ones usually have convenient prices, although KYC is mandatory and it isn't something I really support.

The point I'm trying to make is, there are a lot of options for all of us - you just have to seek them and accept that more privacy will from now on equal more costs.

[stompix]

do not compare evomag and pcgarage with emag or altex ...
evomag and pcgarage are tiny shops

I do not compare them as I have no clue what those shops are, I simply used google translate to search for shops accepting bitcoin in your country and the list came in the top results, simply done, and you could have done it also. Second, when searching for pcgarage and million dollars I stumbled upon an article in English where their revenue is pointed at 40 million euros, it might not be much for some but it's still exactly 40 million more than your mall will ever do.
Besides, this is not about comparison, if Pizzahut would accept bitcoin you're still going to answer that it doesn't matter because McDonald's is not?

First  user from country A has to buy BTC ,easiest way to buy btc is via p2p trading platforms ...as it's cheap ... he pays +3% - 5% to buy 10000 usd
Moving btc from wallet A to wallet B  is cheap
Now user B has to exchange it to fiat ...it cost him around +3% - 5% trader fee + a small bank fee

Stop pulling numbers out of your you know what and no, the easiest way is via an exchange, and Bitstamp has a maximum  0.5% fee on trading Kraken has 0.26%.

[smartcontracts100]

OP is talking like the only purpose of Bitcoin is to be a currency.

First  user from country A has to buy BTC ,easiest way to buy btc is via p2p trading platforms ...as it's cheap ... he pays +3% - 5% to buy 10000 usd

Moving btc from wallet A to wallet B  is cheap

Now user B has to exchange it to fiat ...it cost him around +3% - 5% trader fee + a small bank fee

I don't know why you insist on using expensive exchanges when there  are much cheaper options around.

Even though I'm not using Coinbase anymore their fee for EU citizens is 1.49% and fiat bank transfers are free of charge.

Yeah ...now add the income tax 10% for trading crypto no matter if you make profit or not  on centralized exchanges...that's how it is in my country ,it turns your 1.49% in to 11.49%

[smartcontracts100]

do not compare evomag and pcgarage with emag or altex ...
evomag and pcgarage are tiny shops

I do not compare them as I have no clue what those shops are, I simply used google translate to search for shops accepting bitcoin in your country and the list came in the top results, simply done, and you could have done it also. Second, when searching for pcgarage and million dollars I stumbled upon an article in English where their revenue is pointed at 40 million euros, it might not be much for some but it's still exactly 40 million more than your mall will ever do.
Besides, this is not about comparison, if Pizzahut would accept bitcoin you're still going to answer that it doesn't matter because McDonald's is not?

First  user from country A has to buy BTC ,easiest way to buy btc is via p2p trading platforms ...as it's cheap ... he pays +3% - 5% to buy 10000 usd
Moving btc from wallet A to wallet B  is cheap
Now user B has to exchange it to fiat ...it cost him around +3% - 5% trader fee + a small bank fee

Stop pulling numbers out of your you know what and no, the easiest way is via an exchange, and Bitstamp has a maximum  0.5% fee on trading Kraken has 0.26%.

PcGarage belongs to Emag ,Emag belongs to Naspers ,Naspers  revenue US$22.1 billion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naspers

You can't exchange it here via centralized  exchanges...local irs tax you 10% here ...all you can do is buy something with it that's it ...

[DabsPoorVersion]

I personally can't use crypto to buy in any shop even if crypto is not illegal in our country,

However, I do not call it useless, I know well that it is yet to be accepted worldwide that's why you can only spend crypto in a few shops. If you can't use it, then the only reason is there is still no available yet near you.

[AmoreJaz]

I personally can't use crypto to buy in any shop even if crypto is not illegal in our country,

However, I do not call it useless, I know well that it is yet to be accepted worldwide that's why you can only spend crypto in a few shops. If you can't use it, then the only reason is there is still no available yet near you.

or what the OP can do is just convert his crypto to fiat, thats actually not a problem here. the prob here is if you have no crypto to spend.
 you may not spend your crypto directly to shops but guess what? there are so many ways how to spend crypto.

but did the OP try to connect it with his debit card or getting a debit card just like the binance card. this is one good example where you can basically use a crypto debit card for various merchants

https://www.binance.com/en/cards
https://medium.com/@Blockchance/binance-debit-card-shop-anywhere-with-bitcoins-387f7406739f

[MCobian]

Indeed, there are not many places for us to spend Cryptocurrency, but that doesn't mean cryptocurrency is useless. After all, not all
countries accept cryptocurrency, so naturally there aren't many places for us to spend Cryptocurrency. And there are many ways to
spend crypto, you don't have to spend it in the store. We can spend crypto to play gambling or some charities like UNICEF also accept
donations with cryptocurrency. So we can share a little of the profits we get from crypto for donations to charities. Don't compare it
with fiat which is thousands of years old, give the cryptocurrency a chance to grow and don't call cryptocurrency useless.

[bits4books]

While everyone here is telling you that you can actually make regular purchases with cryptocurrency, I'll ask you something else.

Why do YOU use cryptocurrencies if they are so useless? Is this a special kind of masochism? Or to spite someone? Why, Mr. smartcontracts100 (aka spy 100), why do you continue to use this tool if you consider it useless? You know why. Everyone here knows why.
Why? Because you are not interested in the possibility of buying a PS5 for ETH in the official store. You are not interested in buying coffee at Starbucks for btc. You are not interested in integrating cryptocurrency into everyday life.
YOU're only interested in profit. Profit from over-volatility of the exchange rate. Profit from short positions. Profit from new tokens that will become dust tomorrow but today cost 20 thousand dollars.
So answer me - why ask such questions on the forum about cryptocurrencies when you yourself do not need what you are asking?

[adzino]

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

You sure you googled it properly? I know hundreds of websites that accept bitcoin as a form of payment. Even you are accepting cryptocurrencies/bitcoin as a form of payment (based on your signature and a post in the link you provided). So, if you think crypto currencies are useless, why are you accepting it?
Even if those "major" retailers aren't aren't accepting crypto currencies, you can still buy from them indirectly using cryptocurrencies. Buy a giftcard with bitcoin and spend it over there!

[davis196]

Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

What do you mean by "major retailer"?Amazon,eBay and Walmart?
Well,the discussion about why the major tech giants like Amazon and eBay aren't accepting crypto is going to continue forever.If you ask me,Amazon and eBay will never accept crypto payments,because there's no need for them to accept crypto payments-the costs will be more than the benefits.
Anyway,there are many small and not-so-small companies that accept crypto payments(most of them were mentioned on the previous posts).
If you are so disappointed by the cryptocurrencies,then don't use them and get a credit card.