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October 13, 2020, 12:18:39 PM
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Dear crypto community,
Does anyone also have had a bad experience with people that got in contact for a cash Crypto deal anywhere in Europe ?
When you did, we would like to get in contact with you to talk about this growing issue.
We think this is a growing issue in Europe and we want to use your information (this information of course stays private and discrete).
We want to use this information to solve this problem in the near future.
Contact us freely for all the information at the following Email: Cryptobe@mail.com

Kind regards Cryptobe.
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October 13, 2020, 12:31:45 PM
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Just who are you by the way? Talking big about solving problem will not help you here. We are not trusting anyone and that is a mindset of a common member here.

However, you can convince those who had been victim of fraud by letting describe yourself on how you will be able to come up with a solution, a description why should they trust you and how could it be possible to get their money back or if not as long as it is a way to prevent getting other membera getting scam in the future will do.

In short give the details here because we are not a fortune teller that could be able to verify the things you wanted us perceive.
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October 13, 2020, 02:32:08 PM
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and we want to use your information (this information of course stays private and discrete).

This can be legit, or can be a strategy to gather information about crypto owners - from e-mail to... whatever the user gives.
With no more info about OP I find all this rather shady.

And.. OP, what would be the credibility of such list of .. "mishaps" if it's anonymous? What stops users send you "science fiction" just for the fun of it?
Also Topic is misleading. Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin (and the way many newbies are lured to buy it is very close to fraud).

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October 13, 2020, 04:15:54 PM
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We are not trusting anyone and that is a mindset of a common member here.


I think we trust but those members that have trust status and not just a newbie. We are careful here and use escrow certain times.

and we want to use your information (this information of course stays private and discrete).
We want to use this information to solve this problem in the near future.


This will take a trusted member to achieve. You having a new account so many won't respond here
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We think this is a growing issue in Europe and we want to use your information (this information of course stays private and discrete).
What are you looking for here, private and secret what a joke, no member here who has a problem should hide, do you want to hypnotize the members here to give information for you, I think, no.

Kinds of strategy models for people to cheat, man, now it's 2020, Bitcoin has been trading since 2009, meaning:It's been 12 years, people exchange and trade Bitcoin, now you come and want to solve the problem of crypto transactions, it's ironic, isn't it.

Thank you for the good intentions you have, I hope the members here, especially the (European) community, are not fooled by the tricks they have.

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October 13, 2020, 05:25:18 PM
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Dear crypto community,
Does anyone also have had a bad experience with people that got in contact for a cash Crypto deal anywhere in Europe ?
When you did, we would like to get in contact with you to talk about this growing issue.
We think this is a growing issue in Europe and we want to use your information (this information of course stays private and discrete).
We want to use this information to solve this problem in the near future.
Contact us freely for all the information at the following Email: Cryptobe@mail.com

Kind regards Cryptobe.

from my personal experience, after get a scam some years ago, go to police (if you a department for internet crime it's better). bring with with you all proofs you have and a short summary of what happens.
it's really hard it can work normally since most of the times crypto are not recovered from a crime but is the only situation feasible. never try online service "recover" your bitcoin these are just well known scam.

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October 13, 2020, 05:50:46 PM
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However, you can convince those who had been victim of fraud by letting describe yourself on how you will be able to come up with a solution, a description why should they trust you and how could it be possible to get their money back or if not as long as it is a way to prevent getting other membera getting scam in the future will do.

You're getting pretty close to what's happening here.
Newbie user, when referring to himself speaks in the plural as a "company" wants to get in contact with users who have been scammer or robbed.... why do you think?
To tell them ho experienced they are in recovering funds and they will recover your funds for just a small fee with a couple hundred /thousands of dollars, of course, payable upfront  Grin

Also Topic is misleading. Bitcoin Cash is an altcoin (and the way many newbies are lured to buy it is very close to fraud).

I think that's just bad translation, something like "Victims of bitcoin to cash exchange fraud"

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If you are looking for information for purposes of finding a solution to the issue. Then there's probably lots of it in the Scam accusation board if you hit the search button.  I don't think victims would be comfortable sending you their details. Even if you plan not to share their private details publically, you have to remember that you are also just another stranger on the internet.

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October 13, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
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1. Who are you? Consultant? Project developer? Or what?
2. Do you mean offering help? What kind of help? or only collecting the data and information? And then, gone like the wind? LOL
3. WHat's fr the data? Can you provide more completed information? For only research? Project? or what?
4. How can people trust you that the data they give will be secure enough and you may not leak the data and information?
5. Do you want to help the victims to get their money back?  Grin Grin

Well, in this case, what you are doing here is just like the other scammer because you do not provide exact data and also profiles. And here, you can show us who and what you are.

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October 13, 2020, 11:14:54 PM
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Address who are these "we" that you're implying.

Do you think that people will just email you and tell what you're asking for without knowing who you are and without introducing yourself? That's kind of commanding without even saying a thing about yourselves.

We want to use this information to solve this problem in the near future.
How are you going to solve it?

When someone emails you, you already know that email belongs to a crypto guy and who knows if you'll compile that into a database.  Roll Eyes

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October 13, 2020, 11:26:11 PM
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Dear crypto community,
Does anyone also have had a bad experience with people that got in contact for a cash Crypto deal anywhere in Europe ?
When you did, we would like to get in contact with you to talk about this growing issue.
We think this is a growing issue in Europe and we want to use your information (this information of course stays private and discrete).
We want to use this information to solve this problem in the near future.
Contact us freely for all the information at the following Email: Cryptobe@mail.com

Kind regards Cryptobe.
People are still on their right minds on not to give out their information into some stranger or noobs online.When it comes to bad experiences then there are lots and you havent even mentioned if you are some
sort of consultant since you do talk about solving issues or problems within Europe? Even if you do say that you wont use up their information, im not really that much confident into some stranger in the net.
Dont expect that someone will contact you for such purpose because people here on this place arent really that dumb to believe on.

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October 13, 2020, 11:43:07 PM
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Does anyone also have had a bad experience with people that got in contact for a cash Crypto deal anywhere in Europe ?
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we want to use your information (this information of course stays private and discrete).

It is a common tactic by scammers. I observed that they think they can scam the same victims again under the assumption that they are easy targets.
I'm reporting this post as it is an advertisement for scammers to promote their scam services. I'm sorry if it gets deleted but this is a scam post and also posted in the wrong section.
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October 13, 2020, 11:48:28 PM
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It is like you speak French based on your topic and the way you compose your English. What will you do with the information collected if anybody will ever be willing to provide such? You are soling the problem in the near future based on what idea or you need random people that you intend to spam based on information you are going to collect? I don't think is the right place for you

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October 14, 2020, 12:06:39 AM
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You're getting pretty close to what's happening here.
Newbie user, when referring to himself speaks in the plural as a "company" wants to get in contact with users who have been scammer or robbed.... why do you think?
To tell them ho experienced they are in recovering funds and they will recover your funds for just a small fee with a couple hundred /thousands of dollars, of course, payable upfront  Grin

I guess the OP is indicating the opposite. I don't really know his intentions but by judging his post, I guess he might have been on the same problem and were just looking for the users that might help him with his case. But yeah, somehow it was too shady to get "personal information" for an anonymous company or an unknown reason. Also, I guess the OP doesn't know that he might be the one to be scammed, or the validity of the information he might have through such emails aren't real. Even I can send him false information just because he also posts unsolidified inquiries. (but I wont ofc)

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October 14, 2020, 12:42:19 AM
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Buying over the counter or to unknown sources, is definitely not a good way to buy BTC when clearly Europe has one of the largest number of Bitcoin ATM's or you could go online such as coinbase or popular exchanges such as Binance, there are many alternatives to it. So you don't need to transact with strangers that are potential scammers or criminals.

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October 16, 2020, 01:03:48 PM
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Dear Members.

Thanks for your reaction,

I understand that trust is a difficult thing when a new member ask for information about cash Crypto deals.
To get a clear image we will start to give answers to the 5 questions of Rengga Jati.
Of Course we will gladly answer other questions from your site.

1:We are a private duped party.
2:We are not looking for data fm members ,but we hope to get through you information about wrong buyers /scammers.
3:We would like you to pass these scammers on to us so we can trap them and learn them about injustice.
4:All the information passed through to us will be handled with discretion and not leave us.
5:No we don't get the victims their money back ,also we don't want any payments from members.
We only want there cooperation finding these false buyers and scammers so they can be dealt with.

If there is a trust issue, please feel free to let one of the trusted members contact us for an open and transparent conversation so they can reply to the other members.

Kind Regards Cryptobe.

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