the cheater bounty participants began to act again

[iamaruf]

This is not a new case. I saw this kind of case is 3 years ago and still, now they are doing the same. I don't know why they do this. maximum time they go caught but they think they will get the money easily. But real members faced and get harassed by the mods or DT members.

[bobyhodob]

This is not a new case. I saw this kind of case is 3 years ago and still, now they are doing the same. I don't know why they do this. maximum time they go caught but they think they will get the money easily. But real members faced and get harassed by the mods or DT members.

well, some people still think that they think that this forum place can make money even though what you are looking for here is knowledge of cryptocurrency and can find out many cases of scams that have occurred, DT will provide very decisive action for members who commit this crime.

[tracyhayley]

Giving redtrust i think is not bad idea, but many bounty cheaters is Newbie rank/ they use new account.
If their account get redtrust, they can create more new account again and again. So, i think this only wasting time.
The only way is just tell to bounty managers to reject bounty cheater s and make limit in their bounty.

that's true. the cheaters in social media campaigns is a common sight in bounty campaigns. maybe redtrust will work for cheaters who joined the signature campaign only, but not for other campaigns like social media, article, etc. since they don't need any rank requirement. also i always see the social media campaign with a limit participants, but they still caught so many cheaters on it. so i think making limit is not a solution too.

[mersal]

Participants needs to complete the tasks to get rewards for the week right? How people can post on such social media accounts if they doesn't belong to the user they joined so eventually they will go with zero rewards rights?

Be careful with the people joins on signature campaign because people uses someone's BTT account link and their own address to receive funds that is why oroof of authentication is important for bounty campaign.

[meanwords]

I think the only way to avoid cheaters from stealing account is to make the users post one more authentication in their social media accounts.

It would be much faster if people post their username or authentication post number from btt to their social media then add that to their authentication post in btt to make sure that this is their account, that way bounty campaign managers can be sure that applicants are really owning their social media accounts and not just stolen.

Users should also add their post from social media that authenticates their btt account in every post of proof of work so that way cheaters will have no way to steal accounts.

Now you are asking "what if they want to hide their btt account from the public?", can't be helped since bounty hunters are already making themselves known to the public by using their social media accounts to bounty hunt here. Also, it's not like the majority of the bounty hunters are using their "real" social media accounts anyway.

Just a suggestion though.

[Coroline]

Be careful with the people joins on signature campaign because people uses someone's BTT account link and their own address to receive funds that is why oroof of authentication is important for bounty campaign.

One of the weaknesses of novice bounty managers is that they don't enforce this rule. We know that Proof of Authentication is very important for campaign participants to be rewarded for their work.
We all certainly don't want our content to be stolen on every campaign just because there is no strong evidence to confirm that it's our content, even though in fact it happens because there is no proof of auth using posts on Bitcointalk.
This thread can be used as a reference for bounty managers who want to run campaigns and want competition between participants to occur fairly.

[Genemind]

This usually happens a lot in social media campaigns where low ranked accounts or even newbie accounts are allowed to participate as long as you have a social media account. It's really difficult to verify which accounts are stolen or fake since there are over hundreds of participants there.  I also see some automated posts or bots who join this campaign, especially those who are submitting their entries, spamming even when the bounty already ended.

[bocyaj]

currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles

Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people
I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer

so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust

It's happening common for now.But if you find them,you can prove and get them a negative trust easily.Because this forum with a legit moderators.Only thing is,you should find them with a proof.And not only bounty hunters cheating,some bounty manager will cheat in some bounty.It's hard to find them also.

[Gotumoot]

The bounty managers work is so tiring if there are so many participants and they should really look thoroughly of each participants to kick out all of the cheater or they could just create a rule that they wouldn't accept newbies to jr accounts since this is the common ranks of the cheaters.
But as a bounty project they need all the publicity they could get in order to attract potential clients so excluding those rank could also affect their publicity and they might also exclude some real bounty hunters that are just low rank and not a bounty cheater.

[anume123]

By the way there few bounty hunters only participating in, because they can't handle more bounties because lot of project expecting it's real but in the last it will scam. At the same time many participants making a duplicate on spreadsheets.

[Francis Freeman]

currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles

Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people
I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer

so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust

Looks like the fradulence is reaching an all time high at the moment as we are slowly but surely approaching another epic Bitcoin bull run. I see many accounts getting removed from the campaigns as well due to this. The bounty managers are keeping an vigilant eye to stop scammers and duplicate account runners.

[Sy]

What you say has become a bit of a common practice in the social media campaigns that's why you should always participate in a campaign that has reputed and non-lazy campaign managers otherwise the rewards will get distributed to fake users.

[Lhaine]

Giving redtrust i think is not bad idea, but many bounty cheaters is Newbie rank/ they use new account.
If their account get redtrust, they can create more new account again and again. So, i think this only wasting time.
The only way is just tell to bounty managers to reject bounty cheater s and make limit in their bounty.

that's true. the cheaters in social media campaigns is a common sight in bounty campaigns. maybe redtrust will work for cheaters who joined the signature campaign only, but not for other campaigns like social media, article, etc. since they don't need any rank requirement. also i always see the social media campaign with a limit participants, but they still caught so many cheaters on it. so i think making limit is not a solution too.

It will not work if they are only using newbie account to register. It means its a disposable account so even how many times you will tag them they will create new account and  continue what they are doing like nothing is happen .

The one I think who need to work hard for this is the a manager that handling That campaign  its a hard task for him but that the only option to pay the right people that participating .

[Akiko]

By the way there few bounty hunters only participating in, because they can't handle more bounties because lot of project expecting it's real but in the last it will scam. At the same time many participants making a duplicate on spreadsheets.

Sometimes it just an accident that they duplicate to filled the form but it is often intentional to cheat the bounty campaign . those person that busy   with other important thing  to do will never think about doing this kind of cheating.  but for others that  they are doing that kind of work of fraud and  cheating its just a normal day for them to do that.

They continue doing this because its beneficial for them .

[Bitstar_coin]

currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles

Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people
I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer

so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust

Sorry to say but social media campaigns is like a nest of thieves, i always wonder how bounty managers are able to handle the huge number of participants, it is almost frightening when you will see social media sheets, it runs in thousands some times the number of participants that will apply,  and one funny thing is, when you look at the official social media page of the said project, you will see that the number of their followers those not equal with what it showed on spreadsheet which means many hunters will just join the campaign without bothering about following or liking the social media of the project.
i guess this idea is good, for those who engage in social media campaign should endeavor to report any members who is using their social media account falsely. 

[Reatim]

i have seen several complaints against them and even DT members are being used by these faker ,that is why what you did is best in every project.
checking each profile they use because these scammers are good at it.
Hope the project you are managing will go through this and comes out to success,you deserve a respect for your job well done.

[masulum]

I want to share how I'm trying to account from every participants to prevents any duplication or stealing account.

1. Authentication posts check
From this we will see a twitter profile from participants. Just to make sure you can see another authentication post, if he have several twitter account, it may be fake

2. ETH Address check
All bounty hunter need ETH address, you can try to check their ETH address, maybe they are have connected address, helpful topic Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q4)

3. Twitter account
Now, you can try to check his twitter account, he is active or not, new or old. If there recently wake up account, may you can consider to reject him.

How to make this work efficience? You can use search feature and choose google search. or you can use this way from google search page

Code:

site:bitcointalk.org twitter.com/(TARGET ACCOUNT)

4. Mark duplication on your sheet
I think you are understand about this

[Kunnu]

I have seen in some bounties where at least junior member rank is required to participate, I think this can be a good solution to stop scammers to participate in bounties if all bounty manager consider on this point and implement on it then scammers will definitely fail in their scam attempts.

[piebeyb]

That's a good job, but that's the risk of any job where you are tested to check carefully, at least avoid cheaters from doing that and don't just accept cheaters like other bounty managers who often make mistakes like that, my advice is that you and the team should find new ways to deal with the cheaters so that there are no more cases like this

[JeotQ]

The job of a bounty manager is to fish out every cheaters on bounty spreadsheet, only inexperienced bounty managers don't know how to go about this, proof of Authentication is very important and I don't see how it can be changed, using POA alone solves cheating depending on the vital information requested on the form and POA