CryptoTrip
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October 16, 2020, 09:39:21 AM |
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Cheaters have always been and will be. I came across them several times in bounty companies. I was more annoyed when you yourself found cheaters in the spreadsheet who copy your socials, wrote to the manager one, two, three times, but he doesnt react and automatically counts points for everyone. There is no fairness in such bounty with such a manager. Therefore, you need to stick to those who do their job in good faith.
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fuer44
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October 16, 2020, 09:52:48 AM |
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yes, I first heard about that problem in 2018, besides that there were also many multiple accounts. That would be annoying, apart from the bounty which is currently in a difficult situation, there are many people who are still cheating to get bigger profits in this situation, in my opinion it is also wrong.
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mersal
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October 16, 2020, 11:10:32 AM |
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The bounty managers work is so tiring if there are so many participants and they should really look thoroughly of each participants to kick out all of the cheater or they could just create a rule that they wouldn't accept newbies to jr accounts since this is the common ranks of the cheaters. But as a bounty project they need all the publicity they could get in order to attract potential clients so excluding those rank could also affect their publicity and they might also exclude some real bounty hunters that are just low rank and not a bounty cheater.
Bounty managers don't exclude any rank in the social media campaign, probably they have different amount of rewards for different number of follower/friends but the task is going to be the same, so more and more about the project on social media then more attention they will get.Limiting the participants in the only way to done the work more accurately or else people will keep joining until the campaign ends.
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laredo7mm
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October 16, 2020, 11:31:42 AM |
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles
Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer
so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
It happens especially with Discord, Telegram, and Medium campaign. You can see there are over 3000 sometimes 5000 submissions in those campaigns. You can not prevent this so my suggestion is to not allow newbie accounts in those campaigns. Those cheaters can not have 100 of jr member or higher rank account. Allow newbie account only on Youtube, Article campaign. That is the fastest and easy solution. If we give them Neg Trust they will open up another account.
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Zeke_23
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October 16, 2020, 11:36:26 AM |
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Tagging those cheaters by ourselves will not work, negative trust given by a normal member cannot be seen by any other member but only to ourselves. The best way is to approach the bounty manager, since it is part of their job, they will sort all the names of those cheaters then they can create an accusation. Then the DT will probably tag them and everyone can determine those cheaters.
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Lerikaweb
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October 16, 2020, 01:08:52 PM |
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I used to find my links dublicated in bounty spreadsheets numerous times. More often such things could be seen on blog campaigns) i think that now it is hard to receive a good forum status, so such a risk is not worthy as the cheater would get negative trust and won't be able to take part in bounties at all)
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angrybirdy
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October 16, 2020, 01:12:49 PM |
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so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
Common accounts who are using other peoples social media profiles are those newbies. Even if they will be given a negative trust, they can just create another account and participate over and over again. The best practice is to increase your requirements in ranks and have more strict rules. This way, newly created accounts will not be able to participate and you can at least decrease the possible participants of your campaign.
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aioc
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October 16, 2020, 01:16:36 PM |
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so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
Some of these are untraceable they just submit the works of other bounty hunters and just change the wallet address I have seen so many times back when there are still no verification, without verification the bounty managers have no way in knowing which of these entries are the real submitter of the report in applies on all bounty campaign, on signature , on twitter on Facebook, that is why post verification is very important.
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BitTraderCute
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October 16, 2020, 01:39:30 PM |
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Giving redtrust i think is not bad idea, but many bounty cheaters is Newbie rank/ they use new account. If their account get redtrust, they can create more new account again and again. So, i think this only wasting time. The only way is just tell to bounty managers to reject bounty cheater s and make limit in their bounty.
its not enough for bounty cheater, they must banned so possibilities to claim someone work will decrease alot. forum moderator need to filtered new registration ,it will make limitation for cheater moved. bounty manager and bounty supporter must active checking participant list in spreadsheet, so if cheater found it could deleted immediately.
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lienfaye
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October 16, 2020, 01:41:20 PM |
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Its quite common in bounties though I dont experience such situation.
This is the reason why its a must to double check the spreadsheet and report to the manager if you see something unusual.
Sometimes the manager cant notice it, thats why the cooperation of every bounty hunters are important to spot a cheater.
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superving
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October 16, 2020, 02:19:13 PM |
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Thats the reason why i dont join on social media bounties, lots of participants and most of the entries are from the same person, stealing profile others and use them.
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judeafante
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October 16, 2020, 02:28:09 PM |
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Thats the reason why i dont join on social media bounties, lots of participants and most of the entries are from the same person, stealing profile others and use them.
It depends on the bounty manager some veteran bounty hunters can easily trace those cheaters, and if you are active in bounty campaign you should also check the spreadsheet from time to time to avoid double entries coming from cheaters this is to protect your stakes, you are working for yourself not from cheaters.
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wxxyrqa
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October 16, 2020, 02:59:13 PM |
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Thats the reason why i dont join on social media bounties, lots of participants and most of the entries are from the same person, stealing profile others and use them.
It depends on the bounty manager some veteran bounty hunters can easily trace those cheaters, and if you are active in bounty campaign you should also check the spreadsheet from time to time to avoid double entries coming from cheaters this is to protect your stakes, you are working for yourself not from cheaters. I believe that the solution to the problem depends not only on the manager of the bounty company, but also on each Bounty Hunter who has registered. One should always check the spreadsheet for any irregularities and notify the Bounty Manager, while demanding that errors be corrected to get rid of cheating.
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DabsPoorVersion
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October 16, 2020, 03:07:54 PM |
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so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
Common accounts who are using other peoples social media profiles are those newbies. Even if they will be given a negative trust, they can just create another account and participate over and over again. The best practice is to increase your requirements in ranks and have more strict rules. This way, newly created accounts will not be able to participate and you can at least decrease the possible participants of your campaign. You are right, there must be stricter rules for new forum members to join the bounty campaign. but giving such a negative trust to such cheaters would limit their numbers as well. the steps taken by the OP are good, just add the next step to prevent fraudulent people from joining new accounts again in the next new campaign. Giving negative trust will not limit them, As he said, newbies can always create their new account to participate again. But it can still help to decrease the cheaters of the campaign. It's been a problem even before, even those popular members here are being used to participate by cheaters just to receive more rewards.
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Wulan_maniez
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October 16, 2020, 03:28:15 PM |
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The manager’s job is difficult, this kind of thing is one problem that often occurs in a project led by each manager. Cheaters are definitely very detrimental to all of us. And you also become more extra work to overcome this. My solution is that restrictions on participants may help your work a little to limit the wiggle room of cheaters who take advantage of others.
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adzino
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October 16, 2020, 03:54:15 PM |
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles -snip-
What's wrong with using other people's social media account? As far as I know, you are allowed to have multiple accounts (as long as you are not ban evading). If you don't want users to with multiple accounts to join your campaign, mention it on the rules. Do the same if people aren't allowed to use other peoples social media account. Not, if participants break the rules, it is your responsibility to remove them from the campaign. You are getting paid for that. I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is
Like I said, you are getting paid for it. If you think you can't handle it, then tell the person who hired you to find someone more suitable to do the job. so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
Not going to happen. I mean, why would someone care about the participants breaking the rules if they themselves aren't a part of that bounty program?
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ongkok87
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October 16, 2020, 03:59:34 PM |
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Yes it's true that there's a lot of cheaters in bounty campaigns I think you should not let newbie join your campaign since newbie accounts can easily be created and anyone can be abusive about it or if you can think of someways to prevent it that's better but I can assure to you that it's unavoidable in bounty campaign so the managers should prepare a good strategy to protect the campaign for abuse.
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unusualfacts30
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October 16, 2020, 04:01:58 PM |
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Managers should start collecting tokens from projects before starting a campaign and distribute it themselves instead of relying on project owners. This way they can be sure that people get paid on time, consequentially you'll get more hunters reporting cheaters.
You can limit the number of participants that you can easily manage. If you can't tell who is cheater, that only means you have too many people in your campaign.
Both of the above options will help you gain better reputation and avoid cheaters.
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Teraboy
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October 16, 2020, 04:09:06 PM |
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It's your problem with your participants. You have been getting hired by the owner to clean the campaign from the people who have used others account.
You can at least try to find a formula to prevent it to happen. As a manager and it's your responsibility to find the unique way to verify your participants. You should not always rely with the old method.
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terizla
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October 16, 2020, 04:21:24 PM |
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Be careful with the people joins on signature campaign because people uses someone's BTT account link and their own address to receive funds that is why oroof of authentication is important for bounty campaign.
Since i join any signature campaign, i never found cheater steal account link to join same signature bounty. I think the bounty managers is too weak if accepting double users in 1 campaign.
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