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October 16, 2020, 04:37:04 PM
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Its very rampant nowadays, cheaters keep cheating but they won’t succeed. That’s why proof of authentication per bounty campaign should be mandatory, its one way of sweeping scammers not giving them chance to earn a cent. Some projects push kyc because of these fools.
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October 16, 2020, 04:44:32 PM
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles

Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people
I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer

so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust

Most Twitter and Facebook accounts that participate in bounty campaigns are created only for the purpose of participating in bounty campaigns. They have a mutual subscription with other participants of bounty campaigns. I draw conclusions based on the fact that most of the participants in their profiles can see that they follow thousands of people and have thousands of followers themselves. Personally it's hard for me to keep track of what the 30 people I follow write)
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October 16, 2020, 04:47:08 PM
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Be careful with the people joins on signature campaign because people uses someone's BTT account link and their own address to receive funds that is why oroof of authentication is important for bounty campaign.
Since i join any signature campaign, i never found cheater steal account link to join same signature bounty. I think the bounty managers is too weak if accepting double users in 1 campaign.  Cheesy
not only that, there are many cases that take advantage of bounty campaigns, one of which is with bots that register quickly and use someone else's identity, so that it will be detrimental to those who have that identity, maybe you can only use the method of registering once on google form so that it can overcome problems like this.

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October 16, 2020, 05:12:07 PM
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Be careful with the people joins on signature campaign because people uses someone's BTT account link and their own address to receive funds that is why oroof of authentication is important for bounty campaign.
Since i join any signature campaign, i never found cheater steal account link to join same signature bounty. I think the bounty managers is too weak if accepting double users in 1 campaign.  Cheesy
not only that, there are many cases that take advantage of bounty campaigns, one of which is with bots that register quickly and use someone else's identity, so that it will be detrimental to those who have that identity, maybe you can only use the method of registering once on google form so that it can overcome problems like this.
Bounty managers should be interested in getting rid of unscrupulous members of the Bounty company. I also support the ability to fill in Google registration form only once, so that no one can register another account in the bounty company, even using a VPN. If there is such a possibility, then this can really greatly improve the situation for the better. I believe that we should always apply to the Bounty manager with the appropriate requirement.

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October 16, 2020, 05:35:36 PM
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 Both the Bounty manager/assistant and bounty participant must work together to curb campaign fraud/cheaters. It's difficult to the part of the BM to check one by one but if  the participant will become aware and always do checking the spreadsheet ,also then report to the BM it much better.

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October 16, 2020, 05:52:15 PM
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If you act as an assistant manager on several bounty campaign and find several fraudulent account that try to trick the campaign into harming other, there is nothing wrong with marking their profile with a red tag with valid evidence. That would at least help block their activity as much as possible.

In my opinion, the OP can also advise the manager to limit the ranking of participant received in the campaign so that not many similar cases occur in the future in the campaign you are managing. Not accepting Newbie user is a great way to prevent them from using other people's data in any campaign. I don't think they will consider the reputation of their account even if it is known to be fake as they can create more similar account and do it again. I think this restriction can help. Only my thought.

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October 16, 2020, 06:19:30 PM
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Being a manager is really hard some manager don't just check the participants but also looking to bust out cheaters. That's why being bounty manager is one of the hardest work just by looking at the participants in one project you will see a lot of enrolled user what if the bounty manager is holding more than one project.

About the users who are cheating it's really visible some users are using alt accounts some of them have more than 2 or maybe it's hard to spot which users are really cheating.

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October 16, 2020, 06:40:33 PM
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It's quite common now.
Someone needs to do verification of people owning these accounts sometimes.
There are users here being a victim when they don't even do anything in cheating bounties.
Bounty campaigns are quite vulnerable to these because it is mostly done in the Google Forms.
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October 16, 2020, 09:22:35 PM
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The simplest way now is to limit the rank of bitcointalk forum members to join bounty, only accounts that have been active for a while on bitcointalk are eligible to join. And with PoA I think cheaters will be difficult to act.
Yes. Only full member and up should only be allowed to join the campaign and it should be an active account before they can be finally called a participant. Honestly, it's really unfair for those who are doing their best for the campaign and yet, they only get very small rewards. Cheaters will always find a way to cheat but if the campaign has high standards, it would be hard for them to act as one.

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October 16, 2020, 11:01:07 PM
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so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
thanks for the advice. I will convey it to my friends who often join social media campaigns.
Well, some of my friends often tell their experiences about their accounts being used by other people, often this is missed by the bounty manager because the number of participants is so large that my friend has to make a personal message to overcome this. It takes cooperation and care, so that everyone gets their reward fairly.
As this happens so often, it looks like there must be a better POA strategy. For example, by linking your bitcointalk account on social media profiles.

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October 16, 2020, 11:23:15 PM
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The simplest way now is to limit the rank of bitcointalk forum members to join bounty, only accounts that have been active for a while on bitcointalk are eligible to join. And with PoA I think cheaters will be difficult to act.
Did you see the what he has written? he said that POA is not an effective way to filter the participants from the scammers. There must be another way to make sure the scammers can't participate in the campaign. It's just like try to make people to put the link to the his btt account on his social media and it can be enough to prove whether it's a real or fake.

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October 16, 2020, 11:43:54 PM
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Somehow some hunters realize that bounty manager audit process is very easy to pass and bounty hunters take this advantage. How can one user use another profile when we know that spreadsheet has to access to find multiple links? If hunters can inform bounty manager, this process will no longer be possible.

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October 17, 2020, 02:29:34 AM
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I have read cheater bounty participants and have to immediately share my experience. I got kicked out of a bounty because someone cheated of me, this someone copied my wallet and posted it as theirs. And ive imvested so much time in that project only to be kicked out.




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October 17, 2020, 05:20:15 AM
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These problems are really blatant on such bounty campaigns because of these people wanted to game the system and the people who are innocents really paid the consequences due to the abused from cheating participants.  Some uses bots to do it especially on telegram campaign wherein it's rampant and i myself was a victim of it. The work loads of bounty managers are heavy because they need to double check every entries of participants to filter cheaters from legit ones.

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October 17, 2020, 09:27:40 AM
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles

Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people
I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer

so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
Good thing that people like you dare to find and check on cheaters who creates multiple accounts in this forum to abuse bounty campaigns in this forum. Unlike other users, they are honest and only make one account for them to learn and earn here on the bitcointalk forum at the same time. I also notice some low-rank members here who have the same posting style on similar threads; that is why signature campaigns nowadays only accept high-rank members to avoid multiple accounts.

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October 17, 2020, 02:22:54 PM
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I still don't get it. How will they doing the task if they are using other's social media account ?
For example twitter, you need to re tweet or make new tweet about the project, and how will they make tweet if they just using other's twitter account ?
What i often see is the opposite, cheaters using their social media account, but using other's bitcointalk account, and proof of authentication is very useful to prevent this case.

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October 17, 2020, 04:36:36 PM
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They must be eliminated from this forum immediately, this is a crime that really harms bounty hunters. Actually bounty managers can solve this problem if they really work at their best. All we can do is keep checking the spreadsheet on the bounty we are working on and report with solid evidence when we find someone using our account to join
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October 17, 2020, 04:43:50 PM
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They must be eliminated from this forum immediately, this is a crime that really harms bounty hunters. Actually bounty managers can solve this problem if they really work at their best. All we can do is keep checking the spreadsheet on the bounty we are working on and report with solid evidence when we find someone using our account to join
They always find the way to pass the screening of Bounty Manager, so I thing we can not prevent these cheaters. That's why now bounty spend very little money for hunters, and the requirements of the quests were very high. Currrently the way to restrict participants by rank of bitcointalk is probably the most optimistic.

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October 17, 2020, 04:53:05 PM
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles

Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people
I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer

so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust

Yes you are right here that many cheater now using real mens ID and social media profile but i think its easy to trace that cheater. As a manager you can say to real hunter to set their wallet address to Location of profile and that address must have to fill with registration. So a cheater can not use another persons wallet address and if you find the difference the wallet address you can trace the cheater.

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October 18, 2020, 05:49:08 AM
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They must be eliminated from this forum immediately, this is a crime that really harms bounty hunters. Actually bounty managers can solve this problem if they really work at their best. All we can do is keep checking the spreadsheet on the bounty we are working on and report with solid evidence when we find someone using our account to join
It's a very difficult thing while they can make more and more new accounts again and this point has already pointed out by someone above us. The managers must have cheked the spreadsheet anytime to prevent this case to happen again and again. In fact if there are so many managers didn't even check it regularly even they were getting paid.

Some formulas have already mentioned by some users too and it's really worth to try.

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