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October 18, 2020, 10:11:30 AM Last edit: October 18, 2020, 10:23:13 AM by Traderbtcc |
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Nowadays social media bounty campaigns are been over run by bots, have been a victim of this bots, my BTT profile link and name was used to register in a telegram bounty campaign, with a different telegram name and a different wallet address, when it comes to social media bounties it is always overrunned by bots, cheaters always have their way to cheat and get rewards, it's inevitable there will always be cheaters in any social media bounty campaign.
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October 18, 2020, 11:12:52 AM |
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This is a problem that is often encountered, because it is difficult to know who is the user who cheated. I've found someone who uses my account to register in a bounty that I follow but with a wallet that does not belong to me. And strangely he gets a stake in social media, maybe because too many have joined the social media bounty so the manager miss that.
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October 18, 2020, 11:32:23 AM |
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Currently, there are many bounty projects that have sprung up on this forum, thus attracting the attention of cheaters back into action. And to minimize unwanted things from happening, either from your account or your reward after promoting the project to completion, the only way is to detect the fraudster's wallet address. because it is very unlikely if the Cheater writes a POA with the original owner's ETH address. true or false?
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October 18, 2020, 01:28:47 PM |
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This problem existed since 2018. Unfortunately the honest bounty hunters are the hardest hit group. As a result of these cheaters, the per capita reward goes down drastically and in the end the honest bounty hunter will be left with $5 or $10 in return after working hard for 2-3 months. On the other hand, the cheaters use 20-30 accounts simultaneously and in the end they will easily earn $100-$400 from a single campaign. There is no 100% effective method to prevent this. For starters, you can limit the participation of social media profiles, which do more than three campaigns simultaneously.
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October 18, 2020, 02:25:51 PM |
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hmm, I think this is quite detrimental to many parties, especially the original account owner because he could be accused of using someone else's account. but it seems like some hunters have realized this, I have seen in telegram bounty groups, some people make complaints on the basis of their accounts being used by other people, etc. so it looks like they are aware of it and trying to prevent this.
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October 18, 2020, 02:28:44 PM |
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Yes I've also seen some users using other users credential but using their own wallet address to register there's a lot of cheaters in the bounty it might be really stressful for the bounty manager to check the spreadsheet and find the cheaters at the same time.
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October 18, 2020, 03:36:00 PM |
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles ... As long as there are bounties, so many cheater accounts are used to increase their share in the campaign. Here is one of the latest cases of the "JACS.tech" bounty, in which a participant has the same problem as you described: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282485.0 Those members who participate in the bounty, they can track that their account is being used by others. But those who do not participate in the bounty will not be able to constantly track all the spreadsheets to find their data in them.
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October 18, 2020, 06:31:21 PM |
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This is the common problems to the bounty managers as the cheaters are always there and they are doing their best to get a free money without doing some works as they are just using the others work and they will submit it as their works. So if the bounty managers didn't have enough resources in order to detect this kind of cheat then there is a big possibility that they can earn a free money.
So as a bounty managers, it will be good if you can impose some counter to this kind of cheat in order to avoid paying those cheaters and for them to stop their doings if they can see that they are not earning anymore from their tactics.
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October 18, 2020, 08:26:30 PM |
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Won't it be better for you to ask them to send you a personal message on telegram. With that you'll be able differentiate between the real users and cheater. This is pure wickedness, using multiple accounts and other people's credentials as yours in a particular bounty
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October 18, 2020, 11:39:28 PM |
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The bounty cheaters will not really disappear, they are good cheaters and copy the link made by others then they will post it and pretending their own work. Pity people who work hard and spend time, then only what they have worked for will go to lazy copyists. Maybe sometimes because of the number of participants so it is no longer checked one by one, let's be observant and if we notice something else we have to immediately report it to the admin.
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October 18, 2020, 11:52:12 PM |
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles
Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer
so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
Get used to it and as part of your job then you do really need to have very long patience on dealing with this problem.Cheaters would always exist no matter what due to bounty campaign do still give out chance to make money for some thats why abuses like this isnt something new and had been battling by most managers after all the years.Its up to you if you are really that too persistent on cleaning up the mess or just let them do the abuse.Its your choice but form of abuse is always been illegal so its just right that consequences would be faced. NEgative trust? They will just continue to create new one and the cycle continues.
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October 18, 2020, 11:59:15 PM |
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I still don't get it. How will they doing the task if they are using other's social media account ? For example twitter, you need to re tweet or make new tweet about the project, and how will they make tweet if they just using other's twitter account ? What i often see is the opposite, cheaters using their social media account, but using other's bitcointalk account, and proof of authentication is very useful to prevent this case.
I agree with you, those cheaters are most likely using other's bitcointalk username for the registration and using their own social media account to do the bounty task. This is why a Proof of Authentication post are the most important thing to prevent any cheaters on bounty program.
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October 20, 2020, 07:53:06 AM |
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maybe by checking the POA in detail and looking at the campaigns that the participants wrote in the thread will help a little to find scammers. I was also an assistant manager, I used to spend a lot of time checking bounty threads which sometimes reached 90 pages ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) By looking at the POA it should be classified as a scammer and a real one. therefore between POA and Google form input must match. if anyone wants to change the wallet, they can ask to edit the POA. or for their social media account, we can ask to be included on their bitcointalk account profile. I thought it would be better to reduce scammers.
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October 20, 2020, 12:08:34 PM |
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I think many bounty managers are now more aware of this scheme which make them stricter in their of their rules and policies. Also, they know now how check whether a bounty hunter is having a duplicate account or not which prohibit those cheater hunters in joining such bounty campaigns.
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October 20, 2020, 01:11:32 PM |
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I concur with your argument that to give negative credentials to cheater bounties. Indeed, now the cheater bounty participants are starting to reappear using other people's social media profiles and this is very detrimental to genuine and honest participants.
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October 20, 2020, 01:23:21 PM |
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What? Really? Thankful that I had never been going back to promote project that is not paying or mostly are scamming the investors and also the bounty hunters. Until now I have few tokens that are actually dead projects and no worth at all like team or management are abondonin the project. So sad and I wish that like those scenario will going to end one day. Who would be a crazy man likes to get scam or nit get paid with the work being done? No one of course so I think there should be a way to stop this and hopefully people will going to see its negative effect to cryptocurrency.
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October 20, 2020, 01:31:36 PM |
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Its the same thing happening again since 2017 , you are right checking what bounty or anything you want to participate , but it will happen no matter what we do, as long as you keep on joining a bounties, we can't control them on what they are going to do with all the information they have in the spreadheet
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October 20, 2020, 01:55:04 PM |
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This problem is what often occurs and always recurs, bounty managers who must be more careful in checking spredshets, if left unchecked, might hurt honest bounty hunters,
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October 20, 2020, 03:47:21 PM |
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so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
If there is no proof of authentication then there will be a lot of cheaters in the spreadsheet, this is one of the beauty of proof of authentication it ease the job of bounty managers to trace the real owners of the report and submission, and for bounty hunters to feel comfortable doing their job.
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