SquirrelJulietGarden
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October 22, 2020, 01:55:34 PM |
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles
Some managers don't hide social media profile links in public spreadsheet. They create application form for people to fill in and apply but never mind to hide those profile links when they publicly show spreadsheet. Cheaters can easily to get access to those sheets with links in Bounty topics and can save those social media profile links for cheating later. I don't think they can use those links too much because if they join social media campaigns, they will be required to make tweets, status on Twitter and Facebook, but they never get access to those accounts and won't be able to fullfil tasks. They only be able to cheat with unprofessional and lazy managers.
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totoy4741
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October 22, 2020, 03:31:02 PM |
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It has been their doing ever since especially now that bounty projects have started to get back to life like when it was first introduce before. I think the best the BM managements should is to implement the Form Links in order to verify the authenticity of the bounty participants by checking up on every profile link submitted in the report form.
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deathcode
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October 22, 2020, 03:42:11 PM |
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I also have experience managing bounties or being a BM assistant in 2019. Indeed, this case has often occurred and indeed many genuine or honest users feel disadvantaged if their BM is not careful. But one way is to check in detail, whether the person concerned is really the original user or not. But to do that, there will definitely be a lot of time wasted.
To avoid this problem, it took a long time to check that many participants joined. Detailed examinations must be repeated. and I'm sure it doesn't happen to just one or two people. surely more than 10 people who feel aggrieved maybe even hundreds of people who feel aggrieved.
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Jeger.Kiting
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October 22, 2020, 04:12:17 PM |
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The scammers will never disappear, unless we can prevent them and turn off their movements so that they can't do something that can harm everyone, even though until now only a few projects have killed the movements of all con artists, some have still escaped the surveillance of the managers. campaign, so we can see which projects are good for tackling con artists which aren't.
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Strotman
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October 22, 2020, 08:19:48 PM |
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In this case, only KYC remains, although for an experienced bounty hunter who has several accounts, this will not be an obstacle. You have suggestions how to deal with this?
Maybe for this case, KYC is only the solution, but many participants not agree about KYC, so will skip the campaign It depends on what KYC the project will require. If you just upload scans of the identification document and a certificate from the housing and utilities sector that you live at this address, then scammers have already learned to circumvent this.
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lousie9
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October 22, 2020, 10:46:54 PM |
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It's not easy to stop account scamers in this forum or known as Multi accounts in several campaigns or in one bounty campaign, even red trust alone is not enough to make a deterrent effect for them. they will continue to commit acts of cheating and I think it's a difficult job for the bounty manager to verify one by one which accounts are real or not.
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Nanda Dewi277
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October 23, 2020, 01:46:42 AM |
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Cheaters will continue to look for loopholes. They are smart, they are even able to read the situation so that they can steal and use other people's data without any suspicion. I think it will be difficult at eradicated because creating a Bitcointalk account is very easy.
and I think one way is to make minimum rules forum rank Member.
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copoyes
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October 25, 2020, 04:33:58 PM |
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In the past, people used to use my social media account for bounties, and sometimes the bounty manager didn't check again and was immediately given a stake, quite a lot so it was extra checking one by one the existing bounties or those who had never joined quite annoyed, well maybe the solution now to reduce cheaters at least there is a limit on the rank or age of the account in this forum as well as a limit on participation, the rest will return to the performance of the bounty manager team
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Greatdev
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October 25, 2020, 05:28:54 PM |
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It's not easy to stop account scamers in this forum or known as Multi accounts in several campaigns or in one bounty campaign, even red trust alone is not enough to make a deterrent effect for them. they will continue to commit acts of cheating and I think it's a difficult job for the bounty manager to verify one by one which accounts are real or not.
It will be less headache if the bounty manager accepts limited participants, this will make the managing work more easier and even if cheaters are among the participants it won't be a hard work doing some findings on the participants, bounty managers are the ones giving themselves hard times.
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Baimovic
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October 25, 2020, 06:39:39 PM |
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yes, cases like this have been around for a long time and it is not surprising to see a lot of cheaters joining the bounty campaign. This is especially the case with social media and telegram campaigns. and in my opinion a solution to solve this problem might be by limiting campaign participants, writing proof of registration in threads, sending weekly reports using google forms, etc. at least a little helps minimize the cheater's bounty.
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asepsetiawan1990
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October 26, 2020, 01:39:52 AM |
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That's right, I've experienced that my profile has been used for bounties. I sometimes focus on the project that I handle, but sometimes there are people who take advantage of it. I really appreciate the bounty manager who really sees the aspect of honesty.
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BAGOBO
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October 26, 2020, 03:07:44 AM Last edit: October 26, 2020, 03:30:27 AM by BAGOBO |
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It's not easy to stop account scamers in this forum or known as Multi accounts in several campaigns or in one bounty campaign, even red trust alone is not enough to make a deterrent effect for them. they will continue to commit acts of cheating and I think it's a difficult job for the bounty manager to verify one by one which accounts are real or not.
It will be less headache if the bounty manager accepts limited participants, this will make the managing work more easier and even if cheaters are among the participants it won't be a hard work doing some findings on the participants, bounty managers are the ones giving themselves hard times. The bounty manager has a responsibility in the forum and is required to how the project can be known by many people and be known by investors. If you blame the Bounty Manager for not limiting the number of participants, I think you are very wrong. The bounty does not limit the number of participants because it wants to balance the token income of each participant (worth it), so there is no free fall when launching on the Exchange. Many bounty managers receive bounties after the participant's bounty has been paid. that means they work, like a bounty hunter. work without the certainty of salary and salary will be obtained if the project is successful. and if it fails, the bounty hunter and bounty manager will not get a salary. because there are no limits participants, there are many participants, that's why we need to check and monitor carefully.
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reza7777
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October 26, 2020, 06:41:46 AM |
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Isn't cheating something new on bitcointalk and it has been around for a long time, so why are you just surprised now? And in my opinion, the way to find out if they are genuine or not only with the real owner's wallet and that can be seen in POA By the way I don't have much time to check spreadsheets across multiple campaigns
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Alexmagn84
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October 26, 2020, 08:16:37 AM |
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I realize that POA is the genuine member all different sections are from counterfeit trackers so you can boycott them out of spreadsheet and mission. It is exceptionally excruciating in light of the fact that we have attempted to finish the errand and somebody utilizes it and afterward he gets the prize without taking any kind of action. That is the motivation behind why the week after week report is destined to stay away from the cheating or diminish the con artist that taking an interest in a mission.
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iTradeChips
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October 26, 2020, 11:56:43 AM |
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Well, in my opinion we just have to get used to the fact that there have been cheaters as long as the community remembers working on bounties. It is really job of bounty managers to deal with this problem and you need to have a great amount of patience in dealing with this kind of problem. Cheaters will always be there regardless what you do in a bounty campaign. As long as money is involved and cryptocurrencies are like money, then cheaters will be there.
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October 26, 2020, 12:42:35 PM |
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It's a lesson for all bounty managers that are allowing unlimited bounty hunters on their campaign, when cheaters take over it will make the job extremely hard, smart bounty managers will
1. Use limited participants 2. Use proof of Authentication 3. Allow forum active members only
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sangjoewara
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October 26, 2020, 01:27:17 PM |
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It's a lesson for all bounty managers that are allowing unlimited bounty hunters on their campaign, when cheaters take over it will make the job extremely hard, smart bounty managers will
1. Use limited participants 2. Use proof of Authentication 3. Allow forum active members only
That's right, the three points that you say are always used by bounty managers who are very professional in holding bounties, because they also don't want fraudsters to enter their projects, who sometimes can tarnish their reputation, so I like what you say this.
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October 28, 2020, 03:24:15 PM |
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It's a lesson for all bounty managers that are allowing unlimited bounty hunters on their campaign, when cheaters take over it will make the job extremely hard, smart bounty managers will
1. Use limited participants 2. Use proof of Authentication 3. Allow forum active members only
Limiting participants will not probably solve the issue, but it will benefit bounty hunters. By this, they will be rewarded more. I don't really know how proof of authentication helps bounty managers in solving the issue about cheater in bounties.
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superving
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October 29, 2020, 10:18:10 AM |
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Cheaters on bounty campaigns cant be stop but there are few things that will lessen bounty hunters to cheat, one is through the authentication post, second is limiting the participant, and lastly every participants should always check the spreadsheet if they see duplicate entries and report them to the bm.
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Malam90
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November 03, 2020, 08:49:10 AM |
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currently I am one of the assistant bounty managers, currently there are many cheaters who follow the campaign that we are managing and what we find that the cheaters are starting to act again with multiple accounts by creating a new bitcointalk account to join the bounty then using other people's social media link profiles
Until now, there are still many chats who say that their social media profile accounts are used by other people I also have difficulty handling it because they also create PoA in every campaign so that it makes us not know who the original owner of the social media is until finally we tell the bounty participants to give negative trust to all accounts that use their social media links because it is very detrimental to participants who honest and also a project developer
so I invite all of you to do the same by double-checking the bounty spreadsheet that you are following and if you find your social media profiles on other bitcointalk accounts to give negative trust
In most of the bounties now a days, cheaters registered in social campaign using my details except wallet address. It is very difficult to check cheating in every campaign. When i find cheater using my details, i inform bounty manager to investigate and reject the cheater. Bounty managers should check every participants by their wallet address provided in the proof of authentication post. It will easily help bounty managers to find out a cheater.
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