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October 16, 2020, 05:40:43 PM
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Yesterday, I bump into this thread, the member was complaining how Bounty cheaters used ones details to register on campaign without their knowledge. This is mostly carried out in social campaigns ( Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn....... and the worst one is Telegram)
I have been a victim of this people and I have complain several times, I don't want to receive a negative trust from DT member, it's difficult to convince them when they sight two addresses participating on a Bounty.
I came across a thread that suggested to give negative trust and feed back when one cheat and used your account details but little did I know that scammers are smart individuals.

The first one I dig into was this Bounty that is currently managed by Wapinter.
I am participating on social Bounty but to my surprise someone already used Bitcointalk (Princejebs) account to registered for Telegram campaign.
Another cheater registered my Alts account (Gurujebs) that has been last seen February to register with different address that's not own by me.
See the images below.


The above image, the cheater used my account to register with his/her own address and Telegram Username.


The image shows my own registration


Another cheater using my Alts to register Bounty. Isn't this a problem for me already, I never registered the first and the last.
Here is link to the spreadsheetclick here
Bounty managers are also responsible for this actions, they failed to used #Proof of Registration for social Bounties because they only care about raising a large community, I mean how can Telegram campaign have  registered participants of 10k in just 3 hour of Bounty launch?
Now, it will be difficult to trace this cheater and it will look funny to give my self negative trust.


Here is another spreadsheet from DEGO concluded campaign, the cheater used my account, I have complained to the manager to delete the second entry, I'm still waiting for the her action.

My entry registration.


Cheater entry.
Link to spreadsheet, click here
There are other spreadsheet I'm still digging and I wouldn't be surprised if I see the same thing.

As suggested on this thread to always look out for this cheaters, Bounty managers should find an alternative way to submit works, provide proof of registration in every campaign. I know how busy it's to be a campaign manager but please don't ignored participants when they complain about multiple registrations.
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Like you said they only care about raising a large community and marketing of the project. If the project will receive funds from investors, they will continue to do it without issue. Calling them out for "post of authentication" will just be ignored.

What you can do so they will take time to look at your concerns is to find fault in the project and you create a scam accusation or plagiarism thread. When that happen, you just wait til DT gives negative feedback to their account.


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October 16, 2020, 06:26:59 PM
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Proof of authentication post can easily solve this problem because the original account and time can be tracked and confirmed with timestamp as well. So all other entries can simply be deleted by the bounty manager. It is really a big problem for campaigns that do not enforce proof of authentication post requirement, usually such campaigns are bombarded by fake, multi account and bot entries.

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October 16, 2020, 06:39:57 PM
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Yesterday, I bump into this thread, the member was complaining how Bounty cheaters used ones details to register on campaign without their knowledge. This is mostly carried out in social campaigns ( Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn....... and the worst one is Telegram)
I have been a victim of this people and I have complain several times, I don't want to receive a negative trust from DT member, it's difficult to convince them when they sight two addresses participating on a Bounty.
I came across a thread that suggested to give negative trust and feed back when one cheat and used your account details but little did I know that scammers are smart individuals.

The first one I dig into was this Bounty that is currently managed by Wapinter.
I am participating on social Bounty but to my surprise someone already used Bitcointalk (Princejebs) account to registered for Telegram campaign.
Another cheater registered my Alts account (Gurujebs) that has been last seen February to register with different address that's not own by me.
See the images below.


The above image, the cheater used my account to register with his/her own address and Telegram Username.


The image shows my own registration


Another cheater using my Alts to register Bounty. Isn't this a problem for me already, I never registered the first and the last.
Here is link to the spreadsheetclick here
Bounty managers are also responsible for this actions, they failed to used #Proof of Registration for social Bounties because they only care about raising a large community, I mean how can Telegram campaign have  registered participants of 10k in just 3 hour of Bounty launch?
Now, it will be difficult to trace this cheater and it will look funny to give my self negative trust.


Here is another spreadsheet from DEGO concluded campaign, the cheater used my account, I have complained to the manager to delete the second entry, I'm still waiting for the her action.

My entry registration.


Cheater entry.
Link to spreadsheet, click here
There are other spreadsheet I'm still digging and I wouldn't be surprised if I see the same thing.

As suggested on this thread to always look out for this cheaters, Bounty managers should find an alternative way to submit works, provide proof of registration in every campaign. I know how busy it's to be a campaign manager but please don't ignored participants when they complain about multiple registrations.


This is so painful. It was few months ago that i experienced this issue in a different way. It seems my information was not complete on the spreadsheet, so i sent a message to the bounty manager to rectify it. I waited for weeks without any response. the project came to an end without the allotment of my stake.

Well, I braced up and encouraged myself. I advise bounty manager to respond to complaint of participants.

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October 16, 2020, 07:14:07 PM
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There are a lot of different types of scammers active in bounty section. Protecting our IDs from them seems to be a challenge. Like you, I have had such a problem. A bounty cheater named DeXiam used my details to participate Butter Swap bounty and stolen my work in Amepay bounty. I put a negative trust on his profile. But since I am not a DT member, he does not care about it.

Proof:
Amepay bounty:
I posted my week 1 report on Oct 7
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279528.msg55329077#msg55329077.
Scammer copied my report and posted on bounty thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279528.msg55334456#msg55334456.
Archive: https://archive.st/archive/2020/10/bitcointalk.org/i0s4/bitcointalk.org/index.html

Butter Swap bounty:
My week 1 report link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280065.msg55348152#msg55348152

Scammer's week 1 report link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280065.msg55353913#msg55353913

Then I put a negative trust on his profile but he still doesn't stop.
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October 16, 2020, 08:04:26 PM
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I am also afraid of this shit cheater. I don't know is someone using my details or not. Because It's not possible to check all the bounties sheet every day. Sometimes I got busy and don't check regular basic. Does the POA system work to verify the participants? then how cheaters got accepted? if the ETH address is wrong? Even some cheaters got payment. Managers should check this carefully. Hope there will be new rules to avoid this kind of shit & sick mined peoples

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October 16, 2020, 08:34:43 PM
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There are a lot of different types of scammers active in bounty section. Protecting our IDs from them seems to be a challenge. Like you, I have had such a problem. A bounty cheater named DeXiam used my details to participate Butter Swap bounty and stolen my work in Amepay bounty. I put a negative trust on his profile. But since I am not a DT member, he does not care about it.

Proof:
Amepay bounty:
I posted my week 1 report on Oct 7
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279528.msg55329077#msg55329077.
Scammer copied my report and posted on bounty thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279528.msg55334456#msg55334456.
Archive: https://archive.st/archive/2020/10/bitcointalk.org/i0s4/bitcointalk.org/index.html

Butter Swap bounty:
My week 1 report link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280065.msg55348152#msg55348152

Scammer's week 1 report link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280065.msg55353913#msg55353913

Then I put a negative trust on his profile but he still doesn't stop.
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That's the problem,

Since we are not the dt, even if you put a red tag on this cheaters account, no one will be able to notice. So, it only means that the action you have taken is useless. The only thing we can do is to contact the bounty manager hoping that he will take an action.


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October 16, 2020, 08:40:58 PM
Last edit: October 16, 2020, 09:59:31 PM by semobo
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Then I put a negative trust on his profile but he still doesn't stop.
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Then you should deal this with Reputation section where all those users who are trying to cheat will get more negative trust.There someone threads exists with the same kind of scammers so use the search to find that thread or create one for yourself.
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October 16, 2020, 11:15:15 PM
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Then I put a negative trust on his profile but he still doesn't stop.
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Then you should deal this with Reputation section where all those users who are trying to cheat will get more negative trust.There someone threads exists with the same kind of scammers so use the search to find that thread or create one for yourself.
As long as you can provide enough proof to accuse the scammer and the DT will actually give the scammer negative trust but the problem is what will be happening if the reputation section will be flooding with the similar thread as he is not only the only one who has been getting fooled by the scammer.

his manager must take their responsibility for that. His manager has already hired for that thing and it's his job to clean the campaign from the scammers.

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October 16, 2020, 11:19:27 PM
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I don't understand why people are making bounty a big deal, and sound like they're lose everything if they don't get their bounty. For god sake it's free stuffs that comes out of thin air and you don't need to pay, why expecting so much out of it?
I know some of these bounty hunters have minimum wage $1 or $2 daily in their country but to me these bounty hunters sounds ridiculous. I think most of these bounty hunter do it full time job, which you shouldn't!
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October 16, 2020, 11:32:37 PM
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Bounty managers should find an alternative way to submit works, provide proof of registration in every campaign. I know how busy it's to be a campaign manager but please don't ignored participants when they complain about multiple registrations.
only experienced bounty manager that able to detect cheater to scammers in their spreadsheet. they must thorough when checking participants data in spreadsheet, sometime they will find double entry and often to double entry with different wallet. that's why bounty manager should not single person, they must work as team so could focus. and i have an idea to find cheater, they could sort by bitcointalk name to find cheater in spreadsheet.
Thanks for that, numerous bounty managers don't actually care about other bounty participants identity thefts but very few among them who have been doing thus job with passion can actually identify a scammer from an original owners. Some of them, even when report these scammers they won't border to investigate the concerns of their bounty participants in the process. IMO, the bounty section of the forum need overhauling in term of reputation from other section of the forum.

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October 17, 2020, 08:09:46 AM
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I don't understand why people are making bounty a big deal, and sound like they're lose everything if they don't get their bounty. For god sake it's free stuffs that comes out of thin air and you don't need to pay, why expecting so much out of it?
I know some of these bounty hunters have minimum wage $1 or $2 daily in their country but to me these bounty hunters sounds ridiculous. I think most of these bounty hunter do it full time job, which you shouldn't!
You failed to read in between lines and end up deviating from the topic. The aim of the topic is not about the payment, it's how cheaters used ones detailes on campaign they didn't register or register twice on a single Bounty which is highly prohibited by the forum.
DT members frown at this activity, I bet you have not been summon by them  Grin Grin
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October 17, 2020, 08:35:53 AM
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This is done by scammers, the fraud one is at the bottom of the list. I don't really know their intentions joining in such a bounty campaign then using other's people's address, if happen so and not noticed by bounty manager, the participant might received doubled stakes or rewards as rhe address copied, however it is not in the side of copied participant since it may cause him trouble that bounty manager might accuse him as cheating.

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October 17, 2020, 08:41:56 AM
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Yesterday, I bump into this thread, the member was complaining how Bounty cheaters used ones details to register on campaign without their knowledge. This is mostly carried out in social campaigns ( Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn....... and the worst one is Telegram)
I have been a victim of this people and I have complain several times, I don't want to receive a negative trust from DT member, it's difficult to convince them when they sight two addresses participating on a Bounty.
I came across a thread that suggested to give negative trust and feed back when one cheat and used your account details but little did I know that scammers are smart individuals.

The first one I dig into was this Bounty that is currently managed by Wapinter.
I am participating on social Bounty but to my surprise someone already used Bitcointalk (Princejebs) account to registered for Telegram campaign.
Another cheater registered my Alts account (Gurujebs) that has been last seen February to register with different address that's not own by me.
See the images below.


The above image, the cheater used my account to register with his/her own address and Telegram Username.


The image shows my own registration


Another cheater using my Alts to register Bounty. Isn't this a problem for me already, I never registered the first and the last.
Here is link to the spreadsheetclick here
Bounty managers are also responsible for this actions, they failed to used #Proof of Registration for social Bounties because they only care about raising a large community, I mean how can Telegram campaign have  registered participants of 10k in just 3 hour of Bounty launch?
Now, it will be difficult to trace this cheater and it will look funny to give my self negative trust.


Here is another spreadsheet from DEGO concluded campaign, the cheater used my account, I have complained to the manager to delete the second entry, I'm still waiting for the her action.

My entry registration.


Cheater entry.
Link to spreadsheet, click here
There are other spreadsheet I'm still digging and I wouldn't be surprised if I see the same thing.

As suggested on this thread to always look out for this cheaters, Bounty managers should find an alternative way to submit works, provide proof of registration in every campaign. I know how busy it's to be a campaign manager but please don't ignored participants when they complain about multiple registrations.

The question is do you create POA post? If yes then the cheaters have wasted their time because through proof of Authentication the bounty manager can easily erase other false campaigns in the spreadsheet, this is one reason why I hate social media campaign and telegram, there is always too much spammers in this campaigns
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October 17, 2020, 01:41:49 PM
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That is the importance of proof of registration / authentication for genuine hunters.
But i think wapinter is a popular bounty manager, they should already requiring proof of authentication on his every campaigns.
We as a hunter must check our name on the spreadsheet first. If it is already there without our knowledge, then we should report it.

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October 17, 2020, 02:46:43 PM
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Proof of authentication post can easily solve this problem because the original account and time can be tracked and confirmed with timestamp as well. So all other entries can simply be deleted by the bounty manager. It is really a big problem for campaigns that do not enforce proof of authentication post requirement, usually such campaigns are bombarded by fake, multi account and bot entries.

It's very important to have a proof authentication for bounty hunters, are there still bounty campaigns that did not implement proof of authentication, scammers are on a watch for campaign that do not have this, because they can easily manipulate and cheat the campaign, and besides bounty managers will have a hard time who are the real owners of those submissions.

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October 17, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
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I'm sure that this type of cheating occurs on bounty campaigns that don't requests for proof of authentication posts on this forum, this will surely happen unless the project isn't good enough, it's left for the bounty managers to take action but I bet it's not going to be easy, with the way I see things here it's definitely the bounty managers fault

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Recently bounty managers usually ask to write the "proof of join" post in order to prevent such sort of fraud. I thought such things were left back in 2017))

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October 17, 2020, 04:40:15 PM
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I am sure the bounty manager can solve this, but indeed nowadays many bounty managers ignore participants who experience problems like this because maybe they are at work and we are considered sending spam messages. I hope bounty hunters find out about this complaint and actually set up an easy but safe registration system from scammers. Because lately it is very common and I think almost all bounties have this kind of problem.
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October 17, 2020, 04:54:29 PM
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You indicate an important issue. We should contact bounty manager regarding this issue. A careful bounty manager can reduce scammers by rejecting them from the campaign. Proof of authentication can be a good solution for this.
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