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October 17, 2020, 05:02:58 PM
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This happens repetitively in a bounty campaign that a lot of cheaters who joined, but the bounty managers should also attending the participants concern. As what others campaign manager did is the participant should provide the proof of authentication just to avoid the fraudulent act.
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October 17, 2020, 05:55:39 PM
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I think this is already a common problem in bounties because cheaters would want to of course get higher stakes by using someone else's account for usernames. I believe that even Satoshi's account here was even used before in bounty campaigns as well as other Legendary and reputated members here. Kinda annoying and stupid, I know.
All you gotta do is get in touch with the BM so that you'll avoid getting framed for bounty abusing with alt accounts although I can see it in your feedback that you have alts but got somehow worked out and clarified.
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October 17, 2020, 06:25:02 PM
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This happens repetitively in a bounty campaign that a lot of cheaters who joined, but the bounty managers should also attending the participants concern. As what others campaign manager did is the participant should provide the proof of authentication just to avoid the fraudulent act.

Its hard for the manager alone to manage everything mostly if they have different campaign of social media and have other campaign he manage.

Proof of authentication can help ,the only problem is the thread will became so Messy with a lot spam messages using that authentication .and other important questions asked there can be forgaten or unreadable because of many spam messages like that.

Good solution is to report them every time you  saw someone cheating or use other's people profile.  but not all members will know that someone is using their profile intentionally to join in a bounty.

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October 17, 2020, 06:30:57 PM
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It is no longer news bro, all this social media newbies participants are often the culprit of this bad act, most of them are clueless to the forum and campaign rule, they compound a huge work load for the bm to hand, in my current campaign, there have been several of such similar cases, the really have a lot of work on their plate.
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October 17, 2020, 06:43:58 PM
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I have experienced something like that , I think upper year, and when I tried to make a comment about it, the manager got me out of the campaign, because I was actually confused to see the project appear in 2 phases, the first by a legendary member  the second by a junior member.  The legend manager could not even wait to get my information right, and funny enough till today I never even received the project token.
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October 17, 2020, 07:04:05 PM
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That was always happening in a bounty that have many cheaters doing even do they reported its always coming back. Then must better have a proof authentication to resolve this problem because like they said in the first comment it can detect directly and cant copy the details of we have. And the best solution of that is to reportedly to DT so that they are the one can decide if they put it negative or not.
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October 17, 2020, 07:37:25 PM
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I have seen a several times my account information being used in the bounty specially in telegram and twitter campaign. Really it’s not possible to check all of the project spreadsheet who's misusing my profile. Proof of Authentication absolutely vital to identify the real ownership. Without POA won't  possible to filtering this issue.  

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October 17, 2020, 07:49:23 PM
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Proof of authentication post can easily solve this problem because the original account and time can be tracked and confirmed with timestamp as well. So all other entries can simply be deleted by the bounty manager. It is really a big problem for campaigns that do not enforce proof of authentication post requirement, usually such campaigns are bombarded by fake, multi account and bot entries.

yes, message authentication is very good applied to all bounty programs to avoid account forgery.  In 2017 and 2018, many bounty programs do not require an authentication message so that account forgery occurs in every bounty and at that time the person who fraudulent the account still gets a prize from the bounty he participates in.  This year there are still some who do account forgery, therefore the campaign manager must be more careful in accepting participants who join the bounty program he created.

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October 17, 2020, 09:05:42 PM
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Lucky you that you're still participating in the same bounty, for you to dictate that someone is using your own details to partake in the same bounty.
What happens if you weren't aware of that?
Bounties should make proof of stakes compulsory, to avoid issues like this
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October 17, 2020, 09:30:04 PM
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I've experienced this kind of problem before when I'm still managing a certain project. This is a headache for the bounty managers that bounty hunters are obviously cheating. #Proof of Authentication is very important in bounty projects nowadays cause there are too many hunters trying to impersonate somebody. It's really hard for a bounty manager to keep things still especially on the first day of the campaign when cheaters are spamming the spreadsheets with applications. Imagine I got almost 5000 applications before on the first day of the campaign and I'm sure that just 10% of them are real ones who are participating. Thankfully Proof of Authentication on every report makes the filtering easy and resolves the issue. Implementing the rules strictly is needed in the bounty campaigns so you can see the ones who are serious about it or not.
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October 17, 2020, 09:47:21 PM
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...The first one I dig into was this Bounty that is currently managed by Wapinter. ...

The link you provided is the "JACS.tech" bounty, which is managed not by Wapinter, but by the Hhampuz manager, who is considered a professional in his field. Now that I have mentioned his name here, I think that now he will read this thread and will be able to take adequate measures against cheaters.

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October 17, 2020, 09:51:54 PM
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1. There is pretty much nothing that can be done about this.
2. There is a bot that is mass signing up to the google form entering completely random members. You should not give negative trust to any of them as the one in control of the bot, without a doubt, is not the owner of the accounts it's using to signup with. They are just entering the ETH address in someone elses name (The ETH address is the only thing they are in control of), hoping that some manager will just look over it and award them tokens.
3. You mention my bounty by name and say that we are doing nothing.. I'd invite you to read the last few posts where I bring up the issue (in the Telegram group as well) and where I'm currently working on a solution. Talking about us not caring because we want to raise a community asap is simply not true. What would I possibly stand to benefit from 10k bots signing up to a bounty where they won't do their task and they'll add nothing?

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October 18, 2020, 03:40:07 AM
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1 bitcointalk account and some telegram accounts they entered (probably stolen from other users), that's a wrong thing. Isn't there an efficient way of registering so that it doesn't happen again? I think the bounty manager should make sure, 1 bitcointalk account, 1 telegram account. but it will be difficult when he joins a different bounty. maybe this is the reason why kyc is required for several bounties and reasons.
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October 18, 2020, 04:29:54 AM
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I see a lot of this in most bounty campaigns. I myself is a victim once causing my previous bitcointalk account to be banned. I also saw several bounty participants complaining about it but so far the problem still exists.  Hopefully this would be eliminated so bounty projects would only allow legitimate participants to join the campaign.

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October 18, 2020, 04:45:57 AM
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Only those bounty managers who have a lot of qualifications can easily identify the cheater hunters and remove them later. My guess is that this is actually the job of the bounty manager because he will be able to catch all the cheater hunters when he is engaged in the work of spreadsheet update. There are some unprofessional managers who do not notice this and finish spreadsheet update activities very quickly.

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October 18, 2020, 04:50:09 AM
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Only those bounty managers who have a lot of qualifications can easily identify the cheater hunters and remove them later. My guess is that this is actually the job of the bounty manager because he will be able to catch all the cheater hunters when he is engaged in the work of spreadsheet update. There are some unprofessional managers who do not notice this and finish spreadsheet update activities very quickly.
Yep, that's why there are some bounty manager asking for Proof of Authentication or something a post on the bounty thread that needed from the participant before joining to the bounty.
I also experienced this before, I think more a year ago. I saw my username in some of spreadsheet of bounty I think or it is an airdrop, but the ethereum address there is not belong to me, and I can admit 100% that I didn't join on that airdrop/bounty campaign.

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October 18, 2020, 05:24:44 AM
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Some bounty managers don't pay attention that they need to protect their participants with public information on spreadsheets. Privacy of participants should be protected and information like email addresses should be hidden from spreadsheets.

If managers don't hide email addresses, bad people can send spam, malicious emails to participants or they can steal those information from spreadsheets to make fake applications.

It is not too difficult to hide unnecessary information for public spreadsheets but unprofessional managers don't care.

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October 18, 2020, 05:57:11 AM
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Too bad you have to experience this, all you have to do is present your findings to the various bounty manager of the project(s) so that they can ban this guy's, this is very common with this social media bounties, and from what I have observed this are mostly done by new members, no old member who knew the implications of this kind of action will risk their account doing shit like this,

This is why pos is very important and should be applied in all bounties, many scammers tends to take advantage of any campaign who did not apply this process, they will hijack with their bot, very stupid act in my opinion because eventually they will get cut and those multiple accounts will not get anything except create more work for the bm.

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October 18, 2020, 06:03:14 AM
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The current problem and actually the same old problem was bounty manager don't set limits on the number of participants that can join to the campaign that's why it result on tremendous amount of user that joining campaign which bounty campaign can't handle anymore. Bounty managers always focus on quantity over quality that's why the result is always useless. Lots of participants while the campaign only produce a huge spam of post in forum and in social media.

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October 18, 2020, 06:05:18 AM
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Too bad you have to experience this, all you have to do is present your findings to the various bounty manager of the project(s) so that they can ban this guy's, this is very common with this social media bounties, and from what I have observed this are mostly done by new members, no old member who knew the implications of this kind of action will risk their account doing shit like this,

This is why pos is very important and should be applied in all bounties, many scammers tends to take advantage of any campaign who did not apply this process, they will hijack with their bot, very stupid act in my opinion because eventually they will get cut and those multiple accounts will not get anything except create more work for the bm.
what you are saying is very true because some time ago I still saw a lot of bots registering on a large scale and stealing the identity of people in this forum so it's very dangerous, it's better to use the authentic post system that can be used for verification and may also apply can only one register from google form.

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