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October 18, 2020, 06:11:25 AM
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Bounty managers should find an alternative way to submit works, provide proof of registration in every campaign. I know how busy it's to be a campaign manager but please don't ignored participants when they complain about multiple registrations.

only experienced bounty manager that able to detect cheater to scammers in their spreadsheet. they must thorough when checking participants data in spreadsheet, sometime they will find double entry and often to double entry with different wallet. that's why bounty manager should not single person, they must work as team so could focus. and i have an idea to find cheater, they could sort by bitcointalk name to find cheater in spreadsheet.

That's true there should be double checking especially if the bounty manager is managing a lot of campaigns he should have an assistant to check if there are double entries and scammers who wants to get in and steal other people's works, the bounty manager is at stake if he cannot keep the campaign clean, so he should monitor it from time to time.

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October 18, 2020, 06:30:51 AM
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Cheaters often use other people's profile information to register on the spreadsheet. Don't worry too much about what's going on, if you have any questions, ask the bounty operator. I've found that most bounty programs require a 'Proof of Authentication', which is hard to fake without being an account holder.





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October 18, 2020, 06:56:04 AM
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Just do the Basic,If you are a Bounty Hunter then better be observant and be attentive always check the spreadsheets and if you saw your name (or others that you knew) being used by these scammers then Report right away to the manager and report as well to the Mods.
these are the things that you must do and don't stress your self because this will never end as scammers are part of this community,they are the one who proves how healthy this market and valuable.

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October 18, 2020, 07:27:04 AM
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I have also experienced cases like this, where there are participants who register with the data I have. unfortunately, the bounty manager was observant enough to see the cheating, and immediately took action.
in this case, we do need to do a review before making a payment, or beforehand on the existing spreadsheet. Because there are so many participants, I think there are several accounts that have escaped the monitoring of the bounty manager. because of this, participants also need to take precautions by checking their own data, and if there is an imitation, then immediately report it to the bounty manager for handling.

cheating like this will continue to happen, and I feel like they will try to find loopholes to exploit other people's work for themselves.

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October 18, 2020, 07:40:30 AM
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I guess this happens for a reason that the fraudster uses the same detail of other participant and only change their eth address only to get the benefit of given rewards. But if the copied detail of other participants is their eth addresses, it is pity on the part of that participant since the manager would guess its their alternate account and they could be banned for this if proven right.

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October 19, 2020, 12:20:07 PM
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You failed to read in between lines and end up deviating from the topic. The aim of the topic is not about the payment, it's how cheaters used ones detailes on campaign they didn't register or register twice on a single Bounty which is highly prohibited by the forum.
DT members frown at this activity, I bet you have not been summon by them  Grin Grin

This is how I see the solution to the situation. If fraudsters use someone's data, then this most often happens from a beginner. He has a lot of different data from other people's accounts in his message history. If, for example, he uses your data, then the manager on the history of your messages will easily determine that you are the real owner of this data. Since the date of the posts, your social networks, for example, have earlier dates than his.
I honestly don't see any problem here. There are a few idiots who are newbies and have 4-5 messages. They steal other people's data, using it for registration. And then they become inactive. I see it daily. But I will not accuse you of cheating or the presence of alternative accounts. The motives of those who engage in such matters are not clear.





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October 19, 2020, 02:28:43 PM
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There are many cases of fraud like this, sometimes bounty managers do not pay attention to the validity of the registered account, to minimize fraud someone can find out from the name and wallet address listed on their account if done carefully, and sometimes because many of them take part in the bounty, this is underestimated and results in losses for the account user.
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October 19, 2020, 02:31:00 PM
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Bounty managers should find an alternative way to submit works, provide proof of registration in every campaign. I know how busy it's to be a campaign manager but please don't ignored participants when they complain about multiple registrations.

Making authentication post (POA) compulsory is a way of controlling this level f cheating but the bad part is that some managers do not care about POA. Sometimes you find accounts you know will not be engaged in bouties used for bounties. The scammers know those account holders will not bther checking  bounty threads or speadsheet. This is a good time for managers to sit up and start using the POA. Apart from that these scammers cheat they can also implicate others by using the same erc wallet address with them.
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October 19, 2020, 03:49:50 PM
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what you are saying is very true because some time ago I still saw a lot of bots registering on a large scale and stealing the identity of people in this forum so it's very dangerous, it's better to use the authentic post system that can be used for verification and may also apply can only one register from google form.

Too bad that many people get tagged for that for wrong reason, and good thing that some obvious wrong connection happens through ownership of an ETH or BTC address.
Good thing there are plenty of bounty managers willing to check each entries for verification purposes.
Some aren't and just straight up running the bounty itself.

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October 19, 2020, 04:01:36 PM
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If you are smart than a cheater then you can help the bounty admin and manager to kick out those cheaters and the real one will be rewarded at the end. Proof of authentication can also be use to prove them that you are the real owner of that account. It's really difficult for the campaign manager to detect the cheaters if the participants is too many. That's why I think bounty manager and the hunters must work together for good and kick out those bots and cheaters.

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October 19, 2020, 04:32:24 PM
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There are many cases of fraud like this, sometimes bounty managers do not pay attention to the validity of the registered account, to minimize fraud someone can find out from the name and wallet address listed on their account if done carefully, and sometimes because many of them take part in the bounty, this is underestimated and results in losses for the account user.
however, such a situation is also difficult for the bounty manager to control. If the manager works harder and more carefully I think it can solve the problems a little they are experiencing. but I think the bounty manager has its own way of working to minimize scammers. we still have to respect how the work of the bounty manager.
Being a bounty manager is not so easy than we think because they don't actually have the time to check every details of their participants who joined their bounty campaign, that is why they sometimes commit mistakes that they didn't notice some of their participants are cheaters and scammers. But I see most bounty manager are doing all their best to keep the bounty campaign away from cheaters and scammers.

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October 20, 2020, 02:49:25 AM
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I guess this happens for a reason that the fraudster uses the same detail of other participant and only change their eth address only to get the benefit of given rewards. But if the copied detail of other participants is their eth addresses, it is pity on the part of that participant since the manager would guess its their alternate account and they could be banned for this if proven right.

This is the classic method that usually cheaters does to steal other people stakes.
Using other's bitcointalk username, but using their own telegram handle and their own ethereum address.
Proof of Authentication should be mandatory for all bounty campaigns in bitcointalk forum to ensure fair distribution.

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October 20, 2020, 03:53:05 AM
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I guess this happens for a reason that the fraudster uses the same detail of other participant and only change their eth address only to get the benefit of given rewards. But if the copied detail of other participants is their eth addresses, it is pity on the part of that participant since the manager would guess its their alternate account and they could be banned for this if proven right.

This is the classic method that usually cheaters does to steal other people stakes.
Using other's bitcointalk username, but using their own telegram handle and their own ethereum address.
Proof of Authentication should be mandatory for all bounty campaigns in bitcointalk forum to ensure fair distribution.
maybe this will not apply to the bounty signature, because the signature will be difficult to trick using someone else's username because we enter the signature according to our actual account rank. maybe for social media bounties, the bounty manager must be more careful.


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October 20, 2020, 04:01:25 AM
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Yes if authentication is provided for every bounty manager then the bounty campaigns will be much nicer and no one will be able to cheat morally in the case of bounty campaigns most of the managers cheat and change the wallet from the sheet to take advantage of the reward themselves the participants are  affected. Therefore if authentication is made mandatory no one will be able to change the address and there will be no chance of cheating.
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October 20, 2020, 04:33:13 AM
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Wait, how are they joining the same campaign using your username? And how are they even doing this? I am guessing they are applying from another platform using your bitcointalk username? If that is the case, how come the bounty managers aren't even cross checking anything? I means that is not even that hard to do. All you have to do is using the find function on the sheet and check if the user has already joined the campaign. Or they can tell them to send him a message from his bitcointalk account before enrolling. Looks like its just the managers that aren't doing their jobs properly.

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October 20, 2020, 05:44:52 AM
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Its the bounty manager's fault that cheaters invade the campaign, I would have joined DEGO Finance bounty too but the bounty has no signature campaign available, every bounty managers must compulsory proof of authentication and also limited participants to have a clean bounty managing experience

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October 20, 2020, 05:47:58 AM
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Yesterday, I bump into this thread, the member was complaining how Bounty cheaters used ones details to register on campaign without their knowledge. This is mostly carried out in social campaigns ( Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn....... and the worst one is Telegram)
I have been a victim of this people and I have complain several times, I don't want to receive a negative trust from DT member, it's difficult to convince them when they sight two addresses participating on a Bounty.
I came across a thread that suggested to give negative trust and feed back when one cheat and used your account details but little did I know that scammers are smart individuals.

The first one I dig into was this Bounty that is currently managed by Wapinter.
I am participating on social Bounty but to my surprise someone already used Bitcointalk (Princejebs) account to registered for Telegram campaign.
Another cheater registered my Alts account (Gurujebs) that has been last seen February to register with different address that's not own by me.
See the images below.


The above image, the cheater used my account to register with his/her own address and Telegram Username.


The image shows my own registration


Another cheater using my Alts to register Bounty. Isn't this a problem for me already, I never registered the first and the last.
Here is link to the spreadsheetclick here
Bounty managers are also responsible for this actions, they failed to used #Proof of Registration for social Bounties because they only care about raising a large community, I mean how can Telegram campaign have  registered participants of 10k in just 3 hour of Bounty launch?
Now, it will be difficult to trace this cheater and it will look funny to give my self negative trust.


Here is another spreadsheet from DEGO concluded campaign, the cheater used my account, I have complained to the manager to delete the second entry, I'm still waiting for the her action.

My entry registration.


Cheater entry.
Link to spreadsheet, click here
There are other spreadsheet I'm still digging and I wouldn't be surprised if I see the same thing.

As suggested on this thread to always look out for this cheaters, Bounty managers should find an alternative way to submit works, provide proof of registration in every campaign. I know how busy it's to be a campaign manager but please don't ignored participants when they complain about multiple registrations.

I have experienced the same thing like you, I have never joined a bounty but after I checked the spreadsheet on the Blog or telegram campaign on that project, my Btt name was used by someone who was sneaky to join the bounty campaign, and I 'have reported it with the gift manager but they didn't respond to do so. I also hope that all gift managers should always check on the participants who follow the projects they manage, so that someone sneaky using someone else's Btt can be excluded from the campaign.
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October 20, 2020, 04:16:45 PM
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These scammers will never stop, I have been a victim to this scam,it mostly happens in social media bounty campaigns, I heard bots are been used to do this, I complained to the bounty manager he didn't say anything about it, the scammers even used my profile to register in the telegram bounty campaign before I got there, too bad I can't identify the scammer cus it's just his telegram name there, I would have tagged him asap,these is really getting out of control,we need to put an end to this.

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October 22, 2020, 03:50:16 PM
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This is one of the cheaters in cryptocurrency, where they stole the name of the account of some of the members here in the forum.
via copying the link profile, username, and Telegram username as well, only the difference in the ETH address they use of course. Where this opportunist called an exploiter if I am not mistaken. if you find something like this you must immediately report or inform the bounty manager about the issues.

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October 22, 2020, 05:55:57 PM
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this is not something new in the campaign maybe my name has been used by many scammers to register in several campaigns, but the manager has his own way of analyzing spreadsheets and can find between valid and fake participants

if a manager are doing thier job seriously , this type of cheating wont be succesful  . this occurs popularly on bounty alts because there are more members required in it and if manager is also lazy , they wont scan the profile links one by one . its okay if managers are going to face the consequence but i heard that inocent users are being blamed for this  . what if they dont know how to defend their selves  , they will got tagged and disqualified for the campaign that they join and future campaign that they are going to join .

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