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[JSRAW]

^^ as per reports and Mittal's own public statements, all the interested parties are waiting for the same and Airtel was first in the line.

Musk just wanted a special treatment and red carpet welcome, which didn't happen and hence the tantrum.

So both Airtel and Jio will collab with Starlink to introduce the services in India? Or Jio is planning to have their own product because when we had such issues some tech youtubers were claiming that Jio have plans to do what Elon did with starlink but we don't even have the basic plan yet that is why Ambani is influencing the government to avoid the introduction of Starlink until the native Jio product is completely ready.

Airtel backed one web is already there and waiting for approval. Reliance also announced that their plan includes 1600 satellites and 20-ish ground stations.

Also, considering our past experience like 1999 kargil war when we were denied gps access ( NavIC was born because of this crisis) so don't think anyone want to depend on US much. Backing local guy makes lot more sense from strategic POV.

Idk what kind of collaboration would happen between all 3 parties, maybe starlink planning to use desis ground stations for their services, can't be sure.

[eaLiTy]

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Airtel backed one web is already there and waiting for approval. Reliance also announced that their plan includes 1600 satellites and 20-ish ground stations.

If Airtel already has a satellite collaboration and is waiting for government approval, why join with Starlink. I am also a bit confused by Jio's plans to launch its own network, yet collaborate with Starlink. We can only speculate unless the collaboration details are made public.

Also, considering our past experience like 1999 kargil war when we were denied gps access ( NavIC was born because of this crisis) so don't think anyone want to depend on US much. Backing local guy makes lot more sense from strategic POV.

We have good relations with the US now, though historically that was not the case. Russia and Israel have actually stood by India when it mattered, and it is always great if we have our own local option.

Here backing the local does make any difference according to your point as these satellites are not controlled or operated by Indian companies.

Idk what kind of collaboration would happen between all 3 parties, maybe starlink planning to use desis ground stations for their services, can't be sure.

Starlink provides the satellites, while the services and devices will be distributed by Airtel and Jio, though from the reports, Starlink will still have complete control.

Since we already have two private Indian companies sharing the profits, why not bring BSNL into the mix as a strategic move by the government. I don't have high hopes though, but it would be great.

[Cointikka]

@eaLiTy & @JSRAW. Starlink will be the only company in India that will provide satellite internet services to retail consumers, which are meant for people like us. Airtel and Jio's satellite services will be for enterprises, not retail consumers. Starlink needs these two companies because they are the biggest mobile service provider in India. Everything has already been decided, but the problem here is that Starlink is not cheap, whereas 5G internet services in the world are the cheapest in India. I said previously, Elon realized this big gap and wanted to see through his platform whether Indians would buy his internet services.

Recently, I came across a comparison report by Tesla on why Indian's should buy Tesla over other cars. This was done to promote Tesla which is struggling to penetrate one of the biggest car market in the world.

[JSRAW]

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Only company, How did you came into this conclusion and with what reasoning? Mota bhai want it's share in a pie, like he usually do. Readymade market hai uske liye so why'd he step away from it.

If tesla and starlink aren't in mood of any kind of investment ( which government wants from tesla etc), don't think they'll capture much market here. Also, everybody knows we are price sensetive market.

[Bitcoin Smith]

If tesla and starlink aren't in mood of any kind of investment ( which government wants from tesla etc), don't think they'll capture much market here. Also, everybody knows we are price sensetive market.

Regarding Tesla, they have a manufacturing unit here already, if I am not wrong, but the problem here is our chaotic traffic, so Tesla Autopilot and other standout features from a regular car are completely useless in our country, so paying that big price tag is not for the regular customers and only for those who want to have it. While Indian brands like Mahindra is trying something that is suitable for Indian roads with reasonable and futuristic options.

Starlink won't get a big market share because the ISP here provides it much cheaper, maybe hill regions and remote areas will attract some customers.

BTW, Jio launched its 3-year 5G unlimited plan for prepaid users at 10K, so it's worth grabbing.

[Munshi Prem Chand]

Our media and babudham are medicore at best, all they do is cheer leading based on who's spanking them less.

Jab woh jeeta, woh bhi aacha tha aur jab woh hara, woh bhi aacha hai. Har situation mein small win for India and political leadership muh fulaye baithe rehti hai phupha ji ki tarah.

Haan bilkul ye to confirm hai. Media toh har baar wahi karta hai. Jeet ho ya haar, hamesha "India ke liye positive" nikaal leta hai. Actual analysis kam spin zyada.
H1B aur immigration pe pressure abhi bhi wahi hai. Midterm se bas thoda time mila hai baaki kuch change nahi hua.

[JSRAW]

If tesla and starlink aren't in mood of any kind of investment ( which government wants from tesla etc), don't think they'll capture much market here. Also, everybody knows we are price sensetive market.

Regarding Tesla, they have a manufacturing unit here already, if I am not wrong, but the problem here is our chaotic traffic, so Tesla Autopilot and other standout features from a regular car are completely useless in our country, so paying that big price tag is not for the regular customers and only for those who want to have it. While Indian brands like Mahindra is trying something that is suitable for Indian roads with reasonable and futuristic options.

Starlink won't get a big market share because the ISP here provides it much cheaper, maybe hill regions and remote areas will attract some customers.

BTW, Jio launched its 3-year 5G unlimited plan for prepaid users at 10K, so it's worth grabbing.

No, they don't manufacture anything here and operate as import only and retail.

There was some talk in 2025 that they are looking for manufacturing plant in India but then random reports popped up about backing out from the commitment due to various reasons, gov denied it.

[Cointikka]

No, they don't manufacture anything here and operate as import only and retail.

There was some talk in 2025 that they are looking for manufacturing plant in India but then random reports popped up about backing out from the commitment due to various reasons, gov denied it.

Since they do not build in India, that is the reason why their cars are so costly in India. They still import the car as a brand and try to sell it in India from China. And then they want to compare their cars for the Indian market in terms of saving money. I am still not able to find that X post that went viral. If anyone can, then post it in this thread, quoting my reply.

BYD and Tesla use the same battery. BTW.. @Bitcoin Smith, Tesla operates way better in traffic-like conditions like ours than BYD. The only problem is that they are using the battery tech of BYD, but BYD yet cannot replace their AI that Tesla uses for automation of their cars.