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October 17, 2020, 12:06:06 PM |
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if we look at the all the news and all this corporate interest in bitcoin .... 10 k look like ico offering price lol:D if we look the scale how big the institutions will make it then we are just ICO stage of bitcoin now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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If you say that bitcoin's 10k price is like an ICO's pricing stage, then does that mean that bitcoin will crash back down in the long term like how pretty much 99% of altcoins ICOs did? 🧐 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia0.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F2H67VmB5UEBmU%2Fgiphy.gif&t=665&c=Dhrr8T-CEUF-SQ)
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October 17, 2020, 12:25:16 PM |
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If you say that bitcoin's 10k price is like an ICO's pricing stage, then does that mean that bitcoin will crash back down in the long term like how pretty much 99% of altcoins ICOs did? 🧐 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia0.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F2H67VmB5UEBmU%2Fgiphy.gif&t=665&c=Dhrr8T-CEUF-SQ) techically every coin is ico and every stock is ipo. as far i undestood its just some coin has more support and bigger community and utility can go bigger and go longer.
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October 17, 2020, 12:28:38 PM |
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If you say that bitcoin's 10k price is like an ICO's pricing stage, then does that mean that bitcoin will crash back down in the long term like how pretty much 99% of altcoins ICOs did? 🧐 -
![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Don't know why he made such comparison in ICO pricing stage? And 10k per coin is actually very expensive if you are talking about ICO price. Won't even think about such logic applied to btc as it has been introduced without collecting money from the community. But it is true that most alts that did have their ICO already crashed their value. And most of them were long dead after few months of trading.
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October 17, 2020, 12:42:53 PM |
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Comparing it with the ICO market that is unstable and full of scams may not be the best idea. I'm a believer who thinks that every 5 years or so people will reflect back on the old days and say "why didn't I go all in back then", but if you look at the big players on the market right now, if you were able to stay invested for decades, you did good no matter which of them you chose. Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Tesla... they all started low and exploded.
It's funny how people have negative opinions about Bitcoin and say it's a bubble, while Tesla is in a similar bubble right now. It was worth 7 USD in 2013 and went to 440 in 7 years. We're talking about 60x growth when Bitcoin barely went from 1k USD to 11k in that time (11x). Based on the above, I say that Bitcoin is yet to see a real bubble that will easily take us to 50k USD.
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October 17, 2020, 12:45:35 PM |
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Stop comparing bitcoin to ICO because it was Bitcoin who made a success first before ICO was introduce, ICO produces Altcoins but bitcoin is the main coin, so you can't compare. Bitcoin has not ICO price, it's price is high now but due to its big potential, you can still consider buying it and hold, but don't consider it as an ICO so people will not be mislead.
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October 17, 2020, 12:51:00 PM |
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techically every coin is ico and every stock is ipo. as far i undestood its just some coin has more support and bigger community and utility can go bigger and go longer.
Bitcoin was in no way an ICO though. Bitcoin is proof-of-work[1] not like how tokens are(proof of stake), people were just free to mine bitcoin using their computers back then.
[1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_work ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Don't know why he made such comparison in ICO pricing stage? And 10k per coin is actually very expensive if you are talking about ICO price. Won't even think about such logic applied to btc as it has been introduced without collecting money from the community. But it is true that most alts that did have their ICO already crashed their value. And most of them were long dead after few months of trading. I get what OP was trying to say, I was just messing with him with my response lol. If I understand correctly, OP was pretty much just saying that it's still really really early and bitcoin still has the potential to increase a lot from the current price. OP could've honestly used a far better analogy than ICOs though, like probably saying that bitcoin's current state is like the IPO stage of a huge stock like AAPL or AMZN.
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October 17, 2020, 12:53:32 PM |
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techically every coin is ico and every stock is ipo. as far i undestood its just some coin has more support and bigger community and utility can go bigger and go longer.
Bitcoin was in no way an ICO though. Bitcoin is proof-of-work[1] not like how tokens are(proof of stake), people were just free to mine bitcoin using their computers back then.
[1] https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proof_of_workso bitcoin had no ico so the ico is now ...lol:D for its peak but for instutions the 10k is bargain price and ico so its ico for them
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October 17, 2020, 12:55:47 PM |
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so bitcoin had no ico so the ico is now ...lol:D for its peak but for instutions the 10k is bargain price and ico so its ico for them
I totally get what you're trying to say. You just really chose a bad analogy(ICOs). You know how bad the reputation of ICOs are pretty much anywhere. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I get what OP was trying to say, I was just messing with him with my response lol. If I understand correctly, OP was pretty much just saying that it's still really really early and bitcoin still has the potential to increase a lot from the current price.
OP could've honestly used a far better analogy than ICOs though, like probably saying that bitcoin's current state is like the IPO stage of a huge stock like AAPL or AMZN.
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October 17, 2020, 01:01:05 PM |
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so bitcoin had no ico so the ico is now ...lol:D for its peak but for instutions the 10k is bargain price and ico so its ico for them
I totally get what you're trying to say. You just really chose a bad analogy(ICOs). You know how bad the reputation of ICOs are pretty much anywhere. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I get what OP was trying to say, I was just messing with him with my response lol. If I understand correctly, OP was pretty much just saying that it's still really really early and bitcoin still has the potential to increase a lot from the current price.
OP could've honestly used a far better analogy than ICOs though, like probably saying that bitcoin's current state is like the IPO stage of a huge stock like AAPL or AMZN.
i wanted make it more funny:D if the btc ever can hit the ATH even over 100k and who knows maybe even more then we can look back and say that 10k is an a ico price:D
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October 17, 2020, 04:10:09 PM |
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If you say that bitcoin's 10k price is like an ICO's pricing stage, then does that mean that bitcoin will crash back down in the long term like how pretty much 99% of altcoins ICOs did? 🧐 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia0.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F2H67VmB5UEBmU%2Fgiphy.gif&t=665&c=Dhrr8T-CEUF-SQ) techically every coin is ico and every stock is ipo. as far i undestood its just some coin has more support and bigger community and utility can go bigger and go longer. This is quite correct. A coin having large community of users will be able to stand longer in this market than to those of the majority of ICO tokens wherein projects are temporarily active, which is the most observable difference of Bitcoin from ICOs. Community of users won't be enough, there is something in Bitcoin which keeps its market price, and that might be its reputation as a digital currency. Just like what other users have mentioned, a better analogy would help. We do get the point. The market price of Bitcoin is volatile, given that companies are getting their interests into it, there is a tendency for the market price to increase eventually which would seem that the $10k usd, in this case, is an ICO price only due to the increase in demand. What made the analogy quite sketchy is the fact that what happens most of the time is that, after the ICO, the price of a token is on downfall direction which is somewhat in contrast with what is more likely to happen with Bitcoin's market value eventually. Still, the thought is there.
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October 17, 2020, 05:26:45 PM |
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but don't consider it as an ICO so people will not be mislead.
This is not a newbie section and older accounts do understand the sarcasm. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Get a bitcoin now while the offer last, would this have been a more suitable way to send the message... Lol
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October 18, 2020, 07:26:05 AM |
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but don't consider it as an ICO so people will not be mislead.
This is not a newbie section and older accounts do understand the sarcasm. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Get a bitcoin now while the offer last, would this have been a more suitable way to send the message... Lol there is a big difference between sarcasm and trolling. if you check OP's history you can see which one they have been doing recently. the funny thing is that during price rises a lot of accounts like OP are created posting all kinds of weird things...
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October 18, 2020, 09:10:49 AM |
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I agree. We're early investors then. I have 0.002BTC in my account and I'm gonna be a whale!!!
The adoption is coming and it's possible that a few BTC on your wallet is going to be your most valued possession in life. But lets not just set an ICO price of BTC, after all it did start with no value if it weren't for the pizza. Back in 2016, reaching the $3000 price was already the glorious day.
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October 18, 2020, 12:06:52 PM |
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OP was pretty much just saying that it's still really really early and bitcoin still has the potential to increase a lot from the current price.
Yes, that's how I read it. I do think that a lot of the interest in low cap altcoins is from people who are new to crypto and feel they've 'missed the boat' on bitcoin, because it has already increased in dollar value so much since its inception. However this viewpoint does I feel overlook bitcoin's true potential. Cryptocurrencies can be truly revolutionary. Although marketcap is to an extent a flawed indicator, and tends to overstate true value, Bitcoin's current marketcap is almost infinitesimally tiny compared to the total money in the world. We are heading into an area of abstraction, so figures are of course approximate, but if we assume they are correct to an order of magnitude, then the table below does give some context. This is a few months out of date (May 2020), but as I say we can take it as an order of magnitude illustration. If bitcoin does go on to fulfill its promise, then now is by no means too late to buy in. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-money-and-markets-in-one-visualization-2020/
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October 18, 2020, 01:00:15 PM |
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if we look at the all the news and all this corporate interest in bitcoin .... 10 k look like ico offering price lol:D if we look the scale how big the institutions will make it then we are just ICO stage of bitcoin now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Nah, doesn't make any sense to compare the two, ICO died already after it's bubble, while bitcoin continue it's lifecycle, went down hard but bounce back, while ICO didn't have a chance because it was replace by something new, IEO->Defi Hype, etc. etc. And the reason why big institutions and companies are getting into bitcoin is that they saw the potential, imagine putting their reserves to bitcoin and two years after it grows, win-win situation for them.
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October 18, 2020, 01:20:51 PM |
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there is a big difference between sarcasm and trolling. if you check OP's history you can see which one they have been doing recently. the funny thing is that during price rises a lot of accounts like OP are created posting all kinds of weird things...
There are more accounts like OP in this forum, whether the aim is only to enliven or deliberately want to influence other members with their wrong statements. This is just a trolling endeavor that doesn't matter at all. he is also only a new member who registered in April 2020 and does not understand about ICO and IEO. and he said that the current Bitcoin price is like the ICO pricing stage.
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October 18, 2020, 01:36:36 PM |
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if we look at the all the news and all this corporate interest in bitcoin .... 10 k look like ico offering price lol:D if we look the scale how big the institutions will make it then we are just ICO stage of bitcoin now ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) This is the exact problem in the crypto space . The lack of understanding of the market cycles and creating a fomo . Bitcoin price will go up and down regardless of who invests in it , that's just normal.
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If we compare bitcoin to ICO then this could be the longest ever and there are no stopping unless we have mined 99% of all bitcoins. So we are in the stage wherein the price has somewhat stabilized but no doubt that it could still gain x10-x100 or eve more in the future. So just imagine a ICO that will go on our lifetime and the huge profits in the future and then the cycle repeats all over again.
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October 18, 2020, 10:50:47 PM |
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If you say that bitcoin's 10k price is like an ICO's pricing stage, then does that mean that bitcoin will crash back down in the long term like how pretty much 99% of altcoins ICOs did? 🧐
I have same questions in mind. Would it be similar to plunged down its price on just like what most ICO projects did? No it wont be the same. 10k as an ICO price on Bitcoin? Being optimistic isn't bad but to consider on how far we have gone when it comes to its starting price.I don't see for current btc price to be cheap for someone can easily buy on. Well, no one can tell but this for sure isn't an ICO price stage.I do rather believe that we are on the middle section but who knows if 5k will be the typical price in the future. No one can tell.
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