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October 18, 2020, 11:58:41 PM
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I am not surprised if someone says Bitcoin is widely used by illegal activities on the telegram platform, because indeed the number of
victims who were deceived on telegram was very large. Usually scammers invite investments that promise double profit or scammers
use Ponzi schemes to deceive their victims, by promising great rewards. Many newbie are deceived by rewards to be good to be true,
maybe from the beginning many newbies misunderstood that Bitcoin could make money instantly. Why do scammers use telegram to
do illegal activities, because most of the crypto community and crypto projects use telegram for communication media.

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October 18, 2020, 11:59:32 PM
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The people specially the government thinks that illegal activities are always associated on using Bitcoin on which the fact that even before that Bitcoin is not yet existing, illegal activities are already there no matter what currency there is. The ones who must be blamed in here are the people for taking advantage of the Bitcoin's usage and make use of it on criminal and illegal activities. The ones who must be regulated and restricted are the people for doing related stuffs concerning illegal activities for they are the ones who are making  such illegal behaviors and Bitcoin have been the one being pointed out when at the first place it is just being used by those people out there for their own personal usage including illegal activities.

i think not only the govt but those noncrypto users who dont have the indepth knowledge about crypto esp those that are just watching the media. it is true that illegal activities were already rampant even before we learn the name of bitcoin. and right now, those criminals just got another one good avenue to play their game.
but if we compare it to the laundered fiat, crypto is not even close.
last month's article from asia times also pointed out that crypto involvement has just been exaggerated in money laundering activities and fiat still remains the biggest contributor in this activity

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October 19, 2020, 12:11:43 AM
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October 19, 2020, 12:47:16 AM
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October 19, 2020, 03:21:29 AM
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Pretty crazy thing that Telegram does not do anything about this prevalence in scam. If I were the owner of Telegram and all that is associated with my application is that it is a cesspool of scam, it would spur me into a campaign in preventing the proliferation of scams and eventually annihilation of this scams in my platform. I do not have that much legal knowledge but I think they can be prosecuted for being negligent when it comes to scams on the platform.

I am sure Telegram is neutral, but Telegram is not responsible for every user will do. But Telegram can ban that person if he abuses the rules. But I am sure that a person can find the other way to use Telegram and scam other people. It is not easy to manage the platform, which has a thousand people who use the apps. So we need to be careful with ourselves if we join groups in the Telegram, and always avoid talking or chatting with people we don't know.

But still, we see many case in Telegram that has been used for illegal activities, and perhaps, if we join in one or more groups, we will get interesting offers that allow us to make a big profit in a short time.

I am not surprised if someone says Bitcoin is widely used by illegal activities on the telegram platform, because indeed the number of
victims who were deceived on telegram was very large. Usually scammers invite investments that promise double profit or scammers
use Ponzi schemes to deceive their victims, by promising great rewards. Many newbie are deceived by rewards to be good to be true,
maybe from the beginning many newbies misunderstood that Bitcoin could make money instantly. Why do scammers use telegram to
do illegal activities, because most of the crypto community and crypto projects use telegram for communication media.

So that is what bitcoin will get if many people get scam from Telegram, and we are difficult to find that scammers. People out there will think that the Telegram will only to be used for illegal activities as they see many cryptos projects scam people.
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October 19, 2020, 04:33:04 AM
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This could be dangerous even for the normal users who are using telegram, even the telegram was used for illegal activities
anyone should be inform the authorities about the illegal activities engaging to this kind of services would really give you a lot of trouble.

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October 19, 2020, 05:52:27 AM
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The drug war has failed. I believe if we decriminalize drug use the world would be a better place. It would take power away from violent cartels and the prison population would be drastically reduced, saving tax payers money that could go towards more beneficial things like healthcare and education.

I have already posted about this. Decriminalization is the best way to move forward. But the governments don't want to do that, because it can have a negative impact on multiple sectors. For example, the private prison industry is very big in the United States. If the drug trade is  decriminalized, then the prisons would go bankrupt. Also, the pharma cartels make tens of billions of USD every year by selling synthetic opioids such as hydrocodone and oxymorphone. If the soft drugs are legalized, then they will also suffer huge losses.
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October 19, 2020, 03:21:10 PM
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This could be dangerous even for the normal users who are using telegram, even the telegram was used for illegal activities
anyone should be inform the authorities about the illegal activities engaging to this kind of services would really give you a lot of trouble.

ya.ya.yo!
I tend to agree, it quite full of scam and fraudulent out there.

IMO, I don't think the Government is doing the good steps against illegal activities by putting the blame on Bitcoin. I just find them too desperate and guilty for not being able to stop these illegal activities. If I were them, I would focus on the core of it because the reason why there are illegal activities are that there is a producer, pushers, runners, and admins and those are the things that has to be stopped. Unless they are also involved with it.
In our country, it has the same system. The government is the one that is running very scalable illegal businesses. I'm aware.

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October 19, 2020, 04:02:17 PM
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While I absolutely agree on reporting and fighting scam, illicit substances will always be sold until government takes control over its distribution and production and stops punishment for using
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October 19, 2020, 04:08:23 PM
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Some people use Bitcoin for illegal activities on telegram and other fields. Because Bitcoin transaction can't trace by anyone. Transaction is so much easy and fast. They can buy any illegal things easily by Bitcoin. So they use Bitcoin illegally. 

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October 19, 2020, 04:46:13 PM
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BTC is uncontrollable a lot of articles are coming across regarding this and really hard to judge. After lot of appreciation on this technology many of them use this for illegal purpose is really heartbreaking and now telegram has been targeted.

Governments of every country should come up with strong regulations on this only then we can a safe transaction everywhere else there is no guarantee in future that people will use it and automatically it will get scammed.









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October 19, 2020, 05:04:58 PM
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https://news.bitcoin.com/a-system-of-robot-drug-dealers-on-telegram-allows-people-to-buy-illegal-products-for-bitcoin/
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But this time what's unfortunate is : Government will make this the fault of bitcoins and the people themselves, put up huge restrictions or might even think about issuing a ban.

People are now using social media and telegram to buy illegal things like : drugs , they are paying through Bitcoins.

The anonymity that cryptocurrency provides lead government to blame bitcoin and want to ban it.
However, drugs and many other illegal activities have been banned for years but it still remains to date.
The point is, people always find a way to do it, using bitcoin or monero but it's relatively small compare to fiat money.
It's better for the government to regulate cryptocurrency transaction, not easy to convert bitcoin into cash as the transaction easily tracked through blockchain, although it's a game of patience to track down all the transactions.
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October 19, 2020, 05:13:36 PM
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We can really do anything. Bitcoin is a means of exchange. It holds a value and its main feature is that it grants freedom to its users. We can't cut the whole tree because of a rotten fruit. We must treat the human behavior and not modify the technology.

Bitcoin cannot be banned in the whole world. I don't think that any big nation can cut its citizens the potential for massive appreciation in value that Bitcoin possesses. Even if there were a ban, Bitcoin will still be used underground.

A potential ban would slow the growth of crypto currencies, but wouldn't stop it.
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October 19, 2020, 11:12:38 PM
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The anonymity that cryptocurrency provides lead government to blame bitcoin and want to ban it.
However, drugs and many other illegal activities have been banned for years but it still remains to date.
There are always those who take advantage of something for negative things. Likewise, with bitcoin, everyone knows that we can use it anonymously, and this is what the government is warning against. There are many loopholes used by "criminals" to hide their illegal activities in bitcoin, I realize this, but on the other hand, bitcoin can be exploited for something more useful and profitable. Realizing this, the government cannot completely ban bitcoin and only impose limits as much as possible to reduce illegal acts.

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October 19, 2020, 11:32:16 PM
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People are now using social media and telegram to buy illegal things like : drugs , they are paying through Bitcoins.

If someone gets in contact with such agents , they should timely inform the authorities, make sure you don't engage with things like this. It is not only bad for the whole community but it's also attracting negative attention from the black markets.
People are doing illegal activities well before bitcoin is in existence and if not for bitcoin they will be using other forms of currencies to transact, for a long time coupons were used to do these sort of activities but that does not mean it is used entirely to do illegal activities. If people are using bitcoin then it will having public trial and they will be caught eventually.
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October 20, 2020, 05:23:54 AM
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There are four main components involved in a drug transaction: Seller, buyer, drugs and money or in this case Bitcoin. To blame entirely on Bitcoin is the most ridiculous thing, because the position of Bitcoin is as a means of payment. Banned Bitcoin is not the best solution to stop crime.

The government should be more stringent in eradicating the existence of drugs, then what the government should do is eradicate drug trafficking networks. The problem is finished
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October 20, 2020, 05:29:42 AM
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This is not surprising news about criminal activities, hose criminal activities are already happening before bitcoin has created, they can make it happen through fiat currency but as of these days, cryptocurrency becomes so popular all over the world, they use it as their way of payment, that is also one of the reasons why many people think that cryptocurrency is a scam because of being related to such criminal activities. I am wondering why telegram let these things happen, they should do something just to prevent the transactions about these criminal activities.

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October 20, 2020, 08:36:59 AM
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Since it is very difficult to track the source of illegal activity, governments and law enforcement agencies find it very hard to stop cybercriminals from striking.
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October 20, 2020, 03:21:48 PM
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What are your thoughts on this ??
How should we go about controlling this situation without hampering the freedom cryptocurrencies give users ??

( We already have so many restrictions )

If bad reputations are still increasing due to these illegal activities in a social media platforms then probably those restrictions are not enough.

Maybe, we are lacking some features and it is really hard to control other people on using a certain platform the way they want.

A more specific regulations and prohibitions should be implemented so that authorities will not really affect the freedom of using cryptocurrency the way the users want. It is not that good if we keep on making illegal activities happen and operate in a certain platform. Also, transactions should undergo a lot of process for security and safety purposes within the platform.

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October 20, 2020, 04:14:48 PM
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One good action taken by Telegram is tagging the channel/user as scam if it has been proven.
Platforms as big as Telegram is hard to moderate specially if it has been infected buy such evil-doers scamming people for their personal gains.
One thing that everyone must do is to investigate first, do backround checkings, and look the real reputation of the investment.

Investors, specially for those who are newbie, should always be more careful on investing since they don't have enough knowledge into it.
Telegram-based crypto scams are hard to regulate since there are too much of them these days... So everyone must be careful.

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