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October 20, 2020, 09:14:46 PM |
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There are reports that new hackers group called Darkside donated some of the stolen Bitcoins to charity organisation like Children International and The Water Project after they reportedly stole millions of dollars worth Bitcoins. They are acting like modern day crypto Robin Hood sending 0.88 BTC to both of the charities. Children International replied that they will not be keeping received Bitcoin if it is connected to hackers. What are they going to do? Send them Bitcoin back or what send it to police Hackers also use Unitade States service called The Giving Block that is used by 67 non-profit organisations worldwide. https://www.thegivingblock.com/BBC also tried to donate, and they are wondering why there is no kyc verification.... Why would you ever need KYC for donation?! Is The Giving Block next in line for some crazy punishment? I think all world is gone crazy... Read the source for full information report
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October 21, 2020, 04:45:27 AM |
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....They are acting like modern day crypto Robin Hood sending 0.88 BTC to both of the charities.
It looks like the hackers are only trolling or looking for fame. Although 0.88 BTC [$10,000] is a big amount to most, it's nothing to how much they have extorted from companies they attacked. They could have used a mixer too and not announce that they sent it to a charitable organization if they were serious. Children International replied that they will not be keeping received Bitcoin if it is connected to hackers. What are they going to do? Send them Bitcoin back or what send it to police Hackers also use Unitade States service called The Giving Block that is used by 67 non-profit organisations worldwide. https://www.thegivingblock.com/BBC also tried to donate, and they are wondering why there is no kyc verification.... Why would you ever need KYC for donation?! Is The Giving Block next in line for some crazy punishment? Hehe. The Giving Block already said they will be returning the amount donated to the rightful owners so no punishment for them. I believe Children International will do the same. The authorities will probably act as intermediaries in the distribution but I wonder if the companies will be happy to receive a thousand dollars each.
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October 21, 2020, 09:23:00 AM |
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I don't trust charities anymore, especially those big charity like Red Cross, Green Peace and anything of that sort. The donation is pocketed by the high ranking members of the said charity organization. I get that you need to get paid when you are organizing but if you look at the money they earn then you will see what I mean. The only real charity that I can back with are those organized by pure volunteers or just individuals that wants something to do with their time. I get that the group tried the robinhood approach but I feel bad for the money that will not be reaching those who truly need it.
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October 21, 2020, 09:25:42 AM |
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These charities will get into hell lotsa trouble in case they accept donations from these hackers. Iff the hackers wanted to donate they could have just handed over cash anonymously. Why the drama? ?
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fiulpro
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October 21, 2020, 09:34:42 AM |
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Few days back I read in the newspaper headlines: Christian community raised enough money to get a person who shot a black man out of jail, whereas satan's worshipers were distributing masks and such.
We cannot name a man, we cannot name a community.
If hackers decided to do that , that were aware that : 1. This can be used against them , their addresses can be traced and thus they will be in trouble
See , hacking and illegal activities are never right ofcourse, but I believe they are just trying to take a lesson from Money heist and trying to make people like them.
-The problem is they want the whole community to know that they are donating -so it's not just a matter of donation but a matter of morals too - they might be doing something good but at the end it's negative eventually for the people who would be involved with this money -if you want to do something good but illegally , "be quiet"
This is a funny situation but I believe they should just accept the money and encash, send over the address from which they received to the police if they are too worried but at the end help the kids !
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October 21, 2020, 09:34:45 AM |
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Probably to the police. They can simply ask the police to hold an auction, the one that's held to unmark those Bitcoins that are marked as hacked, so either way, they'd still receive support from the money they got. That, or they can simply just surrender it to the police, though I'd prefer it honestly if it was the former. From hackers or not, a donation is still a donation after all. It's like blaming the currency for being used by hackers or something, which is plain stupid. ....They are acting like modern day crypto Robin Hood sending 0.88 BTC to both of the charities.
It looks like the hackers are only trolling or looking for fame. Although 0.88 BTC [$10,000] is a big amount to most, it's nothing to how much they have extorted from companies they attacked. They could have used a mixer too and not announce that they sent it to a charitable organization if they were serious. A donation is still a donation imo, whether it be for the purpose of fame or fun. Let's be real, how many politicians actually donate out of the kindness of their hearts right? That's why it's probably stupid to judge a donation based on what the motives are, a donation is still a donation imo, which can still prove to be helpful for those that are in need.
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October 21, 2020, 10:02:18 AM |
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I don't believe in this mafia style social work. They are not just hackers but criminals who used extortion to obtain the funds they are donating with. Such activities and people should not be encouraged. Though they are acting as the good person here, they have done more harm to people. Anonymous donations should not be stopped just because some criminals tried to send in donations. It would be better if that fund be used to compensate the victims of the Darkside hackers extortion.
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October 21, 2020, 10:31:06 AM |
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I saw the news on other sources too, and I can confirm it because I it saw myself. This can have two sides, Many hackers and scammers whom steal huge amount bitcoins they are scared to getting traced and tracked buy the government because unlike monero, bitcoin is transparent and you can track any transaction from bitcoin blockchain on block explorer, so even if you use a mixer there is still a chance for you to get tracked, that's why in order to do some money laundry, they will donate bitcoin and give bitcoin for free to some people. In the other side of the story, some hackers try to make other people think they are so generous, respectable and kind so they will use a little part of the stolen bitcoins for donating.
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October 21, 2020, 10:49:17 AM |
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i was wondering what will they do with the stolen bitcoin will the charities hold it and transfer it to the police which we might not know what will they do to it. i know it's not good what hackers did but still they didn't forget to do good thing but still it won't be a good thing if they started it wrong buy hacking.
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October 21, 2020, 10:50:48 AM |
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A few days back dormant blockchain address which said to be sleeping from the time of satoshi's era has donated some significant amount like 9.99 BTC to charities.
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Alucard1
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October 21, 2020, 10:54:23 AM |
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Even though hackers donated 0.88 BTC to charities it won't change the fact that they are bad and they have done a big crime, those 0.88 BTC is not that too high compared to the money they have stolen from the companies. I get the point that they refused the money from the hackers because it comes from the wrongdoings but that money that has stolen is not possible to be recovered, it would be great if they just accept the money and give it to the people who need it. They should be practical because we are still have the pandemic.
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October 21, 2020, 11:41:05 AM |
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Well, this isn't palatable IMO because of it negativity toward the organization that actually receive the donation from these hackers. Hackers; that's the darkside hackers aren't doing the right thing because those stolen Bitcoins when donated to the charity organizations can easily be trace and the government can impose sanctions against the organization, so, why put some organization into a big trouble?.
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October 21, 2020, 11:49:36 AM Last edit: October 21, 2020, 12:53:01 PM by error08 |
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It is not a charity if they brag about it ("No matter how bad you think our work is, we are pleased to know that we helped changed someone's life. Today we sended (sic) the first donations.") So funny, they knew that the donation will not reach those in need. more likely just show off or probably test the deep of the water, whether their transaction could be tracked to the root or the authority will find out, the transaction linked to a mixing service.
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October 21, 2020, 12:04:03 PM |
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This is strange, if hackers actually wanted to donate those money, they would have kept it secret. It's clear that they had some ulterior motive - maybe they wanted to boost their own reputation or maybe they wanted to harm Bitcoin's reputation, or maybe the charities were the actual target? Children International replied that they will not be keeping received Bitcoin if it is connected to hackers. What are they going to do? Send them Bitcoin back or what send it to police They'll probably give the coins to the police, who will try to investigate from whom these coins were stolen, and if that won't work, they'll probably auction the coins.
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October 21, 2020, 12:19:01 PM Last edit: October 21, 2020, 12:32:11 PM by yazher |
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Hackers are not all bad some of them act this way as Robinhood does. but this isn't right at all because, in this way, there will be some people who suffer, and stealing is not really the best way to help those in need quickly. Just like what happened to this guy here, when he got caught he paid for his sin with his life but overall he is happy about his ending. I don't know if it is true or not but such kind of hacker might exist out there. What do you think guys? is it legit or not?
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October 21, 2020, 12:20:42 PM |
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This is strange, if hackers actually wanted to donate those money, they would have kept it secret. It's clear that they had some ulterior motive - maybe they wanted to boost their own reputation or maybe they wanted to harm Bitcoin's reputation, or maybe the charities were the actual target?
We really don't know what is their agenda for doing that and for posting that donations over the net for sure the only thing they want is to be known. Since if they got reputation about this for sure they can use it for extortion or maybe on illegal things that we can't imagine. But we really don't know the on point reason about this so expect more talks about those happenings will continue to flow.
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October 21, 2020, 12:34:09 PM |
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Children International replied that they will not be keeping received Bitcoin if it is connected to hackers. What are they going to do? Send them Bitcoin back or what send it to police They will probably send the donated Bitcoin to the proper authorities. If they believed the same is really obtained illegally, it is absurd to give them back to the criminals. However, I doubt the stolen Bitcoin would still end up to their rightful owners even if it is turned over to the police. The amount is but a very tiny portion of what was probably stolen. Personally, I would think it is better for this tiny amount to just serve a better purpose such as charitable works. But, of course, huge charitable institutions such as Children International wouldn't risk their reputation over 0.88 BTC.
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October 21, 2020, 12:36:07 PM |
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I have mixed reviews for this situation. On 1 hand the hackers are giving money to good causes in The Water Project and Children. But they are giving away stolen funds so its a red flag.
Good for Children International to do the right thing and want to return the stolen coins but who gets them?
KYC for donations is rubbish- this should not be required.
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October 21, 2020, 02:03:42 PM |
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These charities will get into hell lotsa trouble in case they accept donations from these hackers. Iff the hackers wanted to donate they could have just handed over cash anonymously. Why the drama? ? To be able to do that, obviously, they would actually need to sell the bitcoin for them to be able to have the cash. Whereas doing so could potentially expose their identity. And even if they coinjoin the coins and sell them through P2P platforms, there's still a lot of room for error. It's pretty safe to assume that it's not worth the risk on their side. That, or they simply just wanted the publicity like some have mentioned.
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For me, doing something bad just to help others won't make it any good or better because you helped in the wrong way. Even if we say that those hackers are doing it to help charities, it's not an ideal way to help and it would be a dilemma for those charities to accept funds that were acquired in illegal activities. Charities will either turn a blind eye and just accept that bitcoin or report it to the authorities and if they do, would they benefit from it?
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