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October 21, 2020, 02:23:16 PM
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KYC for donations is rubbish-  this should not be required.  
Total rubbish, I agree.

Why don't they fix all the fiat/dollar money scams, hacks, fake donations and illegal activities like it was recently discovered with German banks and monkey laundering?
When they fix that then they can back and talk more about bitcoin, and not just doing kyc for everyone and everything on the planet.

What do you think guys? is it legit or not?
I don't think that is real, and I think it is not related to this topic of Bitcoin donations.

It's pretty safe to assume that it's not worth the risk on their side. That, or they simply just wanted the publicity like some have mentioned.
Yes, and Robin Hood is always a good thing for advertisement Wink
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October 21, 2020, 03:08:20 PM
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KYC for donations is rubbish-  this should not be required.  
Total rubbish, I agree.

Why don't they fix all the fiat/dollar money scams, hacks, fake donations and illegal activities like it was recently discovered with German banks and monkey laundering?
When they fix that then they can back and talk more about bitcoin, and not just doing kyc for everyone and everything on the planet.

What do you think guys? is it legit or not?
I don't think that is real, and I think it is not related to this topic of Bitcoin donations.

It's pretty safe to assume that it's not worth the risk on their side. That, or they simply just wanted the publicity like some have mentioned.
Yes, and Robin Hood is always a good thing for advertisement Wink
Take from the rich - give to the poor and needy.
I know how kindness of Robin Hood by take from the rich and giving to the poor but is not good attitude, I think have good way how to get donate without hacked some website or stole money for giving to the poor. You can make donation and as giving from the rich to donate their money without hacked and stole from them. I know many richest person will donate and make foundation to help each other and separate half their money to build foundation or institution like donate to UNICEF, UNHCR and many bigger world foundation to help many children and people not lucky in the world.
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October 21, 2020, 03:40:48 PM
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Basically this shouldn't be an issue if stolen Bitcoins are or were mixed before they are sent out to the charity. The darkside hackers should ensure to mixe those  stolen bitcoin which will make them untrace from security officers, them not going through this process should be a concern on the part of the recipient. I urge them to always get the stolen bitcoins through mixer before send to beneficiaries.

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October 21, 2020, 03:57:18 PM
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KYC is required for any transactions including donations. These are the rules.

I have personally donated to TheWaterProject a couple of times already in the past, and no; KYC is definitely not a requirement.


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October 21, 2020, 04:23:14 PM
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Well, either they are just trying to justify their crime here or they'd go back to the charity organisation to get the funds back.
It's better the organisation the what's appropriate by sending the BTC back or reporting to the police.
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October 21, 2020, 04:42:40 PM
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The end justifies the means let's just say it is but the thing is that they are making it for fame.

They are surely getting the attention and wanted this action to spread out, the amount of donation is too small from the
actual amount that been said they hacked.

Donating to charitable institutions with your name on it isn't really a bad thing but that is a sign you want the world to recognize your deeds considering all those donations are from hacking activities that results into sending it back to the donators which is the hackers.

The fact that it's been known that the money came from illegal deeds, the donations is just a part of trolling around to get
some good attentions from people who've read the news.

I wonder why they don't send it anonymously since the money they are using are from illegal acts.😁

Again, they purposely done it to get the attentions, they knew where the money came from and
sending it to charities can be done without any publicities if they really doing it in good faith.
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October 21, 2020, 04:48:56 PM
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Would have been nice if the hackers used some tools to mask their donations at least, like used some other available crypto for the donation and just be done with it. It seems like they are just trying to sway the hearts of many with these small things that they’re doing, but ultimately it doesn’t accomplish much and it just led to the funds being wasted, and possibly being spent by some dudes in the middle.

As for KYC on charities.m, why does it need to get implemented? That’s bs. If people want to donate anonymously then let them do it. Most genuine people like to help without being publicized anyway, so I don’t get why organizations need to know who donated.

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October 21, 2020, 04:51:14 PM
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There are reports that new hackers group called Darkside donated some of the stolen Bitcoins to charity organisation like Children International and The Water Project after they reportedly stole millions of dollars worth Bitcoins.
They are acting like modern day crypto Robin Hood sending 0.88 BTC to both of the charities.

Children International replied that they will not be keeping received Bitcoin if it is connected to hackers.
What are they going to do? Send them Bitcoin back or what send it to police Smiley

Hackers also use Unitade States service called The Giving Block that is used by 67 non-profit organisations worldwide.
https://www.thegivingblock.com/

BBC also tried to donate, and they are wondering why there is no kyc verification....
Why would you ever need KYC for donation?!  Roll Eyes
Is The Giving Block next in line for some crazy punishment?
I think all world is gone crazy...


Read the source for full information report

Giving into charities is a good thing that hackers could do donating to children's. But Hacking and scamming is still illegal and stealing. Stealing millions of dollars worth of bitcoin and then donating a small piece of it to the charities is easy maybe the hackers just don't want to feel bad so donating could help him to get rid of that feeling. Requiring KYC for a donation? I think KYC is not suitable and not necessary at all, there is no need for sensitive information if you just want to donate.
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October 21, 2020, 05:00:29 PM
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At least they are sharing some of their earnings(LOL) and those organization could really use it well.
I wonder how the government would react to it would they confiscate it knowing that it came from a group of hackers or would they ignore it and let the organization use the money to help others?

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October 21, 2020, 05:49:31 PM
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I also think that these hackers are just trolling around when they made a donation to these two charities.  If they really wanted to help, they can give a larger amount than a considered "dust" in proportion to the hacked amount. 

Or if not, they are possibly trying to fish some sentiment from other people to make them look good at least.  Just how the article portrayed them as "Mysterious Robin Hood".

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October 21, 2020, 06:02:32 PM
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The charity probably won't accept it because it will surely cause trouble on their end. If they've surrendered it then that's a good thing because it's a good way to catch those hackers. As we all know, good deeds can't save us and those hackers have committed a mistake and they should still pay for it no matter where they used their stolen crypto. They should still pay for their depth. 
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October 21, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
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we are also have charity threads on bitcointalk.
these threads got 1 btc of donation each.
another robinhood? I hope it came from a good way.
   
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October 21, 2020, 06:47:51 PM
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I also think that these hackers are just trolling around when they made a donation to these two charities.  If they really wanted to help, they can give a larger amount than a considered "dust" in proportion to the hacked amount. 

Or if not, they are possibly trying to fish some sentiment from other people to make them look good at least.  Just how the article portrayed them as "Mysterious Robin Hood".
I think it's more than that although they did send it anyway but the report said that the charity itself won't accept/touch the donated Bitcoin when it's connected to the hackers. The only question left me hanging is what are they gonna do with those Bitcoin anyway? And the hackers just sent a dime of all the total of what they hacked so I guess they are just trying to test something or is it only just a show? Who knows what are they thinking. Roll Eyes

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October 21, 2020, 06:48:52 PM
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There are reports that new hackers group called Darkside donated some of the stolen Bitcoins to charity organisation like Children International and The Water Project after they reportedly stole millions of dollars worth Bitcoins.
They are acting like modern day crypto Robin Hood sending 0.88 BTC to both of the charities.
To call these hackers the modern day cryptocurrency Robin Hood i would like to know how much they looted over all and then donating a small amount could not be considered as a big charity as there are several user funds that are robbed because of the inability of the exchanges to keep the funds safe.

It is a good decision by these charity organisations to return the funds from these exploits.
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October 21, 2020, 06:51:24 PM
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I don't know if it is true or not but such kind of hacker might exist out there.
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What do you think guys? is it legit or not?

How can you ask this when the image you linked comes from factly, from this URL:
Hamza Bendelladj is still alive. The person in the photo is not him
So, not only was he not executed but also there is zero evidence of him donating a penny.

It looks like the hackers are only trolling or looking for fame. Although 0.88 BTC [$10,000] is a big amount to most, it's nothing to how much they have extorted from companies they attacked. They could have used a mixer too and not announce that they sent it to a charitable organization if they were serious.

Yeah, really pathetic to brag about this, you extort millions and you donate 10 000 and you consider yourself a hero, there are banks who are donating more percentage-wise and maybe even some of the companies they've extorted. Not to mention that it took them 9 sweet months to do from their first case.

This is strange, if hackers actually wanted to donate those money, they would have kept it secret. It's clear that they had some ulterior motive - maybe they wanted to boost their own reputation or maybe they wanted to harm Bitcoin's reputation, or maybe the charities were the actual target?

Or maybe they're testing the waters for money laundering, set up 10 NGO's and distribute some of the coins as "donations".
Even if they are donating a few dollars let's not forget that those guys have started the whole deal with extortion so you could assume the worse from them.

As for anyone considering them Robin Hood, taking money from the rich and giving it to the poor, let me ask you this:
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October 22, 2020, 12:05:27 AM
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For me, doing something bad just to help others won't make it any good or better because you helped in the wrong way. Even if we say that those hackers are doing it to help charities, it's not an ideal way to help and it would be a dilemma for those charities to accept funds that were acquired in illegal activities. Charities will either turn a blind eye and just accept that bitcoin or report it to the authorities and if they do, would they benefit from it?

For me, I know that hackers helped in the wrong way but what if the money that they stole was from a corrupt politician? The bright side of this is hackers serves as a blessing in disguise to help those who are in need. If ever that they will surrender those bitcoins to the authorities we will never know if it will be returned to the previous owner of bitcoin or if it will be safe in the pockets of somebody. If I were in that place and charities are really in need that time I will accept it and be thankful.
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October 22, 2020, 03:40:37 AM
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....They are acting like modern day crypto Robin Hood sending 0.88 BTC to both of the charities.
It looks like the hackers are only trolling or looking for fame. Although 0.88 BTC [$10,000] is a big amount to most, it's nothing to how much they have extorted from companies they attacked. They could have used a mixer too and not announce that they sent it to a charitable organization if they were serious.
A donation is still a donation imo, whether it be for the purpose of fame or fun. Let's be real, how many politicians actually donate out of the kindness of their hearts right? That's why it's probably stupid to judge a donation based on what the motives are, a donation is still a donation imo, which can still prove to be helpful for those that are in need.
Wut? You must have seen too many movies of guys robbing banks while killing people and giving a portion of the money to the innocent poor and thought it was cool hehe. I can't think of other reasons why you'd see the act as "helpful" even though you knew it was stolen and someone else has to suffer or already suffering because of the "donor". They don't get a pass just because dirty politicians are also doing it for fame.

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October 22, 2020, 05:35:20 AM
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For me, doing something bad just to help others won't make it any good or better because you helped in the wrong way. Even if we say that those hackers are doing it to help charities, it's not an ideal way to help and it would be a dilemma for those charities to accept funds that were acquired in illegal activities. Charities will either turn a blind eye and just accept that bitcoin or report it to the authorities and if they do, would they benefit from it?

For me, I know that hackers helped in the wrong way but what if the money that they stole was from a corrupt politician? The bright side of this is hackers serves as a blessing in disguise to help those who are in need. If ever that they will surrender those bitcoins to the authorities we will never know if it will be returned to the previous owner of bitcoin or if it will be safe in the pockets of somebody. If I were in that place and charities are really in need that time I will accept it and be thankful.
Although the source of the stolen BTC by the hackers was not stated, had it been the stolen BTC is from a corrupt source like politicians or money meant to develop their countries and embezzled by the corrupt people I fully support such a money to be given to charity organizations.
Charities have to be cautious of receiving donations from sources that are suspicious so as to avoiding having problem with security authorities, betterstill the hackers should have gifted the BTC to a trusted person and implore  that person to transfer the fund to the charities.

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October 22, 2020, 06:33:44 AM
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We are giving different images to the people we called as the hacker again there is a different variation of hackers

The black hat hacker is ly responsible to commit a crime.
The white-hat hacker is one of the goods in the security

Also, they can change their path too if they want because they all aim for humanity and during this pandemic, it's too hard to help so why not use the bitcoin.

It's better to share things we have with the people who can't bear to this situation.
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October 22, 2020, 07:10:08 AM
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Sometimes it’s not all the hackers that are bad guys, some of them are just doing it to punish the elites who are the real world villains. This is not the first time I’m seeing stories like this, I’ve seen people who indulge in activities like this as a way to get something out from these stingy rich guys and use it to help the poor people.

Although sometimes it’s bad because some innocent people get caught up in the situation and lose their own money. All we need is a better world and nothing more. But I wouldn’t care if the bad elites are the only ones being affected, except the good ones that are fighting for a better cause.
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