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October 22, 2020, 07:35:37 AM
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I believe there is no need to reject the donation made by these hackers. For a charity, it shouldn't make any difference who sent them the money. In fact, if you begin to deeply understand who could be the owner of this or that money, it may turn out that at a certain stage practically any money could participate in some illegal schemes, but this does not prevent us from receiving change every day in the store with this money. Therefore, I see no problem for them to accept this money.
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October 22, 2020, 08:09:11 AM
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They are only trying to look good so their illegal works will be covered and this is how i see this action and i hate it ,Fooling people to make your works Good but in the back is evil is not a good thing for me.

Hoping that these hackers will still be put in jail once they are being pointed.

Because they are still taking funds from other people and this is not tolerable.









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October 22, 2020, 09:51:21 AM
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Well, I wouldn't accept donations from people I don't know not to talk of accepting from people who steal from others. If you steal from the rich to give to the needy, it's still evil/immoral. I think the only one that can be justified is taking back exactly what was stolen from you and denoting to the needy.
By the way, I never really like the idea of donating money to organizations that help people in need, unless they very transparent and use all the donated funds for exactly what they are donated for. Prefer to give directly and physically.
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October 22, 2020, 09:59:31 AM
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These charities will get into hell lotsa trouble in case they accept donations from these hackers. Iff the hackers wanted to donate they could have just handed over cash anonymously. Why the drama?Huh?

It is not their fault though.

They needed the money and they are just added in the expression since the hackers donated to their charity. I think it is safe to say that they will not be accepting or using that donated Bitcoins and might just give it to the police. Is this the hacker's plan or just their doing to say that they are good and they are the robinhood of this worst year?
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October 22, 2020, 10:50:31 AM
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I really do not know why these hackers decided to actually announce their donations:) I mean, if they truly wanted to give it to charity, why did they not do it? Are they maybe afraid they are close to getting caught and just trying to use this as a way to show they are actually good guys? I like steal from rich and give to poor too, but usually Robin Hood does not announce it;)

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October 22, 2020, 10:54:33 AM
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Well, I wouldn't accept donations from people I don't know not to talk of accepting from people who steal from others. If you steal from the rich to give to the needy, it's still evil/immoral. I think the only one that can be justified is taking back exactly what was stolen from you and denoting to the needy.
By the way, I never really like the idea of donating money to organizations that help people in need, unless they very transparent and use all the donated funds for exactly what they are donated for. Prefer to give directly and physically.


In addition to this^, if you recieve donation from someone online, it would be good to go through the person's posts history or internet activities and probably have his/her real identity recorded somewhere  openenly, or privately (if he/she chooses to be anonymous/private) before accepting it. If the donor has questionable/immoral characters or posts, you send back or reject the donation with reasons. If your donor has no post/internet history, you research or ask some questions while his/her donation remains untouched. If the answers aren't satisfactory, you return the fund back.
This ^ should well best on well decentralized network
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October 22, 2020, 12:05:31 PM
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We can take this into different perception. It is upto the receiver and the sending authority. From the hackers point of view it can be send to charities to wash away the sins of stealing. Another thing it might be a way to establish their identity as they're a new group of hackers. From the receiver point of view they feel guilty of using it, but in my view it is good to use it. Because,if the funds haven't been send for a good cause now this could've been used for something else.

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October 22, 2020, 12:25:11 PM
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It said that the hackers looted millions worth of Bitcoin and then they just give or donate 0.88 BTC whats the heck! that was nothing compared to the stolen amounts, But still its better than nothing after all 0.88 BTC is already liquid so it can buy food and supplies.
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October 22, 2020, 01:56:13 PM
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that one organization were already given free money and they arent willing to accept it ? they should be thankful and accept it because they arent the one ( the reciever or officials ) that will use but its a big help to the children under this charity . dont tell me they are hoarding the money but if they do , they are also picky and wants clean money but how do will know if other donators are donating clean money  .  the problem of the hacker donators is that they dont donate anonymously but they want the world to know that they are not pure evil
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October 22, 2020, 02:20:32 PM
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I don't trust charities anymore, especially those big charity like Red Cross, Green Peace and anything of that sort. The donation is pocketed by the high ranking members of the said charity organization. I get that you need to get paid when you are organizing but if you look at the money they earn then you will see what I mean. The only real charity that I can back with are those organized by pure volunteers or just individuals that wants something to do with their time. I get that the group tried the robinhood approach but I feel bad for the money that will not be reaching those who truly need it.
The money will not reach anyone as the organizations are returning that money to their rightful owners which is as it should be, if they had no way to know the source of the funds then they could have accepted it but it seems the hackers went out of their way to not mix the coins and for everyone to know they were donating some of that money to charities, so I do not think that legally they have another choice.

Now about charities in general, it will always be more effective that whatever money you want to donate is given to the persons that you think need it, the moment you use a charity then a part of that money will have to go to sustaining the charity itself, however there are charities in which the majority of their income goes to sustaining themselves and paying their employees big salaries so I understand your point when it comes to those charities.

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October 22, 2020, 09:53:38 PM
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must either say a crime or a good in what they do.
donating 0.88 Bitcoin to a foundation does have a positive value, but the bitcoins they get are illegal bitcoins and the result of other wallet breaches. The donations given were also only a small amount, only 0.88 BTC, while the ones they gave away were worth millions of dollars. Whether this is just a way to trick the police, but this method is not right.
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October 22, 2020, 10:26:15 PM
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Those charities are indeed just afraid for them to be sued or accused something since they are receiving funds that do really came from hackers.
Why they cant just accept? I dont see a reason for them to be sued out or would face up charges since those funds came out from nowhere.
Its just giving out some good vibes that hackers are still minding off in humanity on helping out those in need even though it came from theft
or from other people but i cant really just avoid not to be impressed on that kind of doing.

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October 22, 2020, 10:32:53 PM
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This proves bad people like Darkside hackers still have a good side, therefore they try to do good thing by donating to two charities.
Although it is not justified to make donations from the proceeds of crime. And I appreciate what Children International have done,
which plans not to accept Bitcoin that has been sent from Darkside hackers. Whereas 0.88 BTC is a very large amount in my opinion.
It makes no sense to impose KYC for donations. Because there are some people who want to do good thing, but don't want others to know.
That's why the KYC procedure is not required for donations.

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October 22, 2020, 10:48:11 PM
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Being a thief wouldn't change you even if you help other people, at the end of the day you are still a thief. These guys must be making good things from the bad things they would do but that will not change anything. They still hacked the bitcoins they have, obviously some charity would not accept that since police might involve them to hwat happened.

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October 22, 2020, 10:54:29 PM
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....They are acting like modern day crypto Robin Hood sending 0.88 BTC to both of the charities.
It looks like the hackers are only trolling or looking for fame. Although 0.88 BTC [$10,000] is a big amount to most, it's nothing to how much they have extorted from companies they attacked. They could have used a mixer too and not announce that they sent it to a charitable organization if they were serious.
A donation is still a donation imo, whether it be for the purpose of fame or fun. Let's be real, how many politicians actually donate out of the kindness of their hearts right? That's why it's probably stupid to judge a donation based on what the motives are, a donation is still a donation imo, which can still prove to be helpful for those that are in need.
Wut? You must have seen too many movies of guys robbing banks while killing people and giving a portion of the money to the innocent poor and thought it was cool hehe. I can't think of other reasons why you'd see the act as "helpful" even though you knew it was stolen and someone else has to suffer or already suffering because of the "donor". They don't get a pass just because dirty politicians are also doing it for fame.
Vigilante justice is never needed and unnecessary but is definitely appreciated. There are certain instances where violence will be the last resort. Nevertheless, if it's from bitcoin where a lot of innocent people trade, I'm not so sure this can be justified as you're basically stealing from a poor to give it to another poor.

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October 23, 2020, 08:14:37 AM
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This proves bad people like Darkside hackers still have a good side, therefore they try to do good thing by donating to two charities.

My mother always told me that there is no good in helping if the money that you help came was stolen. It is not a reason to help others from others money. If you want to help, you have to help from your own thing. You are not good just because you are helping, you will become good for not violating laws nor harm somebody else. I don`t salute that kind of thinking because it just shows the dilemma wherein you will think if it is bad a good.

Charities are only the front line of the scammers. They just being good to the people who they helped but its a doom for other people which they stole the money even directly or not. Helping is really needed nowadays, but scamming to other just to lend your arms to the poor is the same as the politician who snatched money from the treasury of the people. And helping it again to them just to gain sympathy as well as popularity.
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October 23, 2020, 12:29:04 PM
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I can't believe how the main creator of this article assumes that the donations came from the group "Darkside Hackers". Because in the first place, these hackers will not transact using the address where they first sent the hacked bitcoins before, they will use mixers to already mix the bitcoins and send it to their own address. The only reason this could be possible is when these hackers' intention in the very beginning is to donate to charities. But if the hacking incidents took place way back years ago. I can't believe this story. No one would ever donate too much of bitcoins especially today, as it has way better value than before.
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October 23, 2020, 12:40:21 PM
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BBC also tried to donate, and they are wondering why there is no kyc verification....
Why would you ever need KYC for donation?!  Roll Eyes
Is The Giving Block next in line for some crazy punishment?
I think all world is gone crazy...

Why would they even bother to do a KYC on donation?
For me it is just a waste of time and some donators wants to keep their information private and doesn't want to be known just like those hackers.
I am also curious on how much did those hackers stole and what's their purpose on donating some amount on random charities?
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October 23, 2020, 01:57:00 PM
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I am also curious on how much did those hackers stole and what's their purpose on donating some amount on random charities?
Well, it is not actually stated how much but based on the article the OP has provided, these Darkside hackers had extorted millions of dollars from companies and it is also said that now they wanted to make this world a better place that is why they posted these two receipts of $10K worth of Bitcoin to two charities. Don't know if that is their actual intention though.

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October 23, 2020, 02:08:41 PM
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They want to stir things up. I don't think it's a legit donation by them. It's just such a small amount for them and they aren't trying to donate to a lot of charities just poking here and there to see themselves in the news.

It may ba an attempt to give Bitcoin a bad name because the charities might get scared and disable their Bitcoin donations or they might spend the money and then the hackers will say it's no longer dirty theft money if it can help a cause.

Are they playing robin hood and trying to clear their names saying it was all to help others? No way. I'd have to see them donate it all to believe and I can bet it's not going to happen.
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