The Covid madness increases in the UK.

[Jet Cash]

As my readers will be aware, my belief is the the number of reported infections doesn't matter - well it does, but only because it gives an indication of the increase in natural immunity to the virus. However, all of the mass media reports are obsessed with dramatising any apparent increase in the number of infections, and they don't consider increases in the number of test, or variations in the testing procedures. The Government is now ramping up the fear and the restrictions with a whole load of new rules and guidelines. It seems that pub landlords will have to record customer details, and ask for proof that there are no contacts between different family units. What is the point of going to the pub if there is no social interaction allowed.I wonder how long it will take them to rule that only one family is allowed to attend debates in the House of Commons? Sainsbury's have had to close the stairs up to their supermarket ( it is above a large car park). This is because people are passing each other on the steps. They now have to use the escalators, and get less exercise as a result. They also have to travel in the exhalation cloud of the person in front of them.

There is a report of a 50 stone (700 pounds) man having to be winched out of his house to be taken to hospital. It seems he is addicted to ordering fast food via his phone apps during the lockdown. He can't be working, so we have to suffer because of parasites like him.

It seems there are guidelines that suggest that customers can't stay in cafes for more than 90 minutes, so if you want to use the WiFi for longer, then you have to drive to a different cafe. That's a good way to reduce the spread of immunity.

We are also being warned that the unhealthy face masks have to be  worn over both the nose and the mouth. If this isn't done, there is a chance that you won't re-inhale the virus if your body is getting rid of it. However, I shouldn't worry too much, as most healthy people must have developed natural immunity by now.

[BADecker]

Watch the Karl Lentz videos at https://www.youtube.com/user/765736. Then search on Karl, common lae.

Karl did work in the UK, showing some folks how to use Queen's Bench Court to sue government people as men and women rather than in their official governmental capacity. If they harmed you, they owe you. Invoice them for the damage they cause you. And sue them when they don't pay the amount of the invoice.

Possibly your hardest job in this will be showing where somebody damaged you personally.

[franky1]

oh here we go.. jetcash after having 8 months to learn the science, logic and common sense about the lockdown.. still fails
then we have badecker. now going back to his old freeman scripts of february..

why do these two people not understand that their concepts and scripts are not based on logic, but more morphed idea's found on conspiracy/cult sites.

why after 8 months have they not wised up.

anyway to address the cries of jetcash
1. the main concern is the number of hospitalisations. but thats like 3-5 days after infection so kinda too late to plan anything after the fact. so by looking at the number of infections rise,yep its a good predictor of hospitalisation rise.

2. the new 3 tier rules system is actually more relaxed than the spring lockdown. it only affects places with high cases. so country towns with low infection are not restricted automatically.
im guessing jetcash would weirdly be a hypocrit to his spring cries and now want the old rules back.. without understanding that these new rules are actually solutions to his earlier cries

3. you can be social. at a distance.. its not about antisocial where you cant talk to anyone. its about being anti physical. in many ways its better. usually in a pub theres a crowd lingering at a bar meaning you gotta push passed and wait for them to stop shouting at the tv to get your order heard. by now having table service you just raise your arm like prompting a waiter and they bring you a drink. yep i found it easier to order many rounds of alcohol with this new set up. and we still get to play quiz nights, karaoke, watch sports. chat to each other across tables.. we just not going to have to worry about spitting in each others drinks or knocking each other over spilling pints.

4. wait jetcash i thought you wanted people to gather and inhale a group of peoples exhalation cloud.. now suddenly you against gatherings? then why cry about the new pub layout. can you atleast make your mind up. do you prefer shoulder to shoulder or distanced interactions

5. if you want wifi and only wifi. go to a cybercafe. supermarket cafe's are for quick snacks and drinks. heck even the supermarket carparks are designed for 60-90minutes because even without this covid season supermarkets dont think their customers need to e in their store for more then 90 minutes. so dont blame covid

6. you only need to wear a mask for as long as your in a situation indoor where you are coming into close contact with people not in your household.
so do your shopping pay for your shopping and leave. then you can take your mask off
also if your already infected. you should not be one of those idiots that still leaves their home and be breathing on people in the supermarket.

7. in america. NY state is about 25% but with other states much much lower the average for america is under 10%. UK is even less then 10%
sorry but no where near the 70% herd threshold. not by a factor of atleast 7-8

[BADecker]

There is no cure for Covid. But... we don't need one, and we don't want the lies that we are getting from government.


CDC Study Showed in June the New Coronavirus Cannot Cause COVID 19

The COVID 19 pandemic hoax has been exposed in detail by critics citing scientific evidence and official records. One important piece of scientific evidence is a study published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in June this year, but ignored by the media and CDC establishment itself so as not to undermine the pandemic story they have been feeding the public.

The CDC study titled "Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 from Patient with Coronavirus Disease, United States" was published in the CDC journal Emerging Infectious Diseases (Volume 26, Number 6). Earlier in October, the study was interpreted by Dr. Tom Cowan for the lay audience under the title Only poisoned monkey kidney cells 'grew' the SARS-CoV-2 'virus' on the site SOTT.net. He wrote:

A thorough and careful reading of this important paper reveals some shocking findings.

As Dr. Cowan comments on the study's methodology, the researchers did not isolate the alleged novel coronavirus; instead they used 37 out of 30 thousand base pairs from "unpurified samples using PCR probes" and put these into a computer program that "filled in the rest of the base pairs." This settling on pretty much arbitrarily selected segments as the viral genome and letting a computer create the rest of it is something utterly unscientific. Dr. Cowan says:

To me, this computer-generation step constitutes scientific fraud.

He then goes on to point to the real shocker in the study. When the viral material, or what the researchers choose to call "SARS-CoV-2" (the one allegedly causing COVID 19), was tested on animals and on human tissues, it didn't cause infection. The so-called virus failed to cause infection in human tissues, even when applied in high amounts. When tested on mice, wild mice didn't develop the disease at all and only a very small number of genetically modified (GMO) mice showed loss of some fur when infected with the virus. Even they did not show any symptoms that have been used by the health authorities to describe the COVID 19.

In other words, the CDC study showed that what is the "virus" allegedly causing COVID 19 does not cause COVID 19 at all.

These revealing results were seemingly so unsettling for the CDC, which has been pushing the COVID pandemic hoax for months, their researchers omitted this result from the conclusion part of their paper.

[jackg]

Wales seem to have been logical. We have a 3 week total lockdown (and 1 week for schools) where we should hopefully see a reduction in cases...

I do think the government should've given 5-7 days off work to people every 2 months to try to reduce the number of cases. I think as symptomatics should have recovered by 7 days for the most part. And I don't think tourism is big in the UK in the winter but expect it to come back in March.

Also @franky1 I think the bulk of hospital admissions are in the 2nd to 4th week after infection. The first week after are probably for people with other issues as well as the virus that cause an exaggeration of the lower oxygen levels. So it's even worse...

[BADecker]

^^^ Wow! Wales had a total 3 week lockdown?

What about masks and social distancing?

Is it logical to get proof for the virus?
Is it logical to require your government people to show the proof?
Is it logical to learn enough about understanding what proof is, so that you and your neighbors can figure out if the proof really is proof?

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-09-11/what-you-can-and-cant-do-from-monday-in-wales-as-new-covid-restrictions-come-into-place

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-wales-54108088

[Cnut237]

It seems that pub landlords will have to record customer details, and ask for proof that there are no contacts between different family units. What is the point of going to the pub if there is no social interaction allowed.I wonder how long it will take them to rule that only one family is allowed to attend debates in the House of Commons? Sainsbury's have had to close the stairs up to their supermarket ( it is above a large car park). This is because people are passing each other on the steps. They now have to use the escalators, and get less exercise as a result. They also have to travel in the exhalation cloud of the person in front of them.

The absurdities arise because the government are trying to reconcile two conflicting objectives: 1) keep shops and other businesses open, and 2) stop the virus from spreading. When these two come into conflict, the government response is to prioritise the economy over the virus. Hence businesses must remain open, and best efforts are made to contain the virus.

There is a report of a 50 stone (700 pounds) man having to be winched out of his house to be taken to hospital. It seems he is addicted to ordering fast food via his phone apps during the lockdown. He can't be working, so we have to suffer because of parasites like him.

You can always find individual cases to support any given argument. But I'm not sure what your argument is here. I don't think it's fair to demonise an individual without knowing their circumstances, and based on what is likely a sensationalised news piece - as you said "mass media reports are obsessed with dramatising".

We are also being warned that the unhealthy face masks have to be  worn over both the nose and the mouth.

They're only unhealthy if you don't wear them. Wearing them over just mouth does confer reduced protection, so if you're going to wear one then obviously nose and mouth is preferable. But I do have sympathy with people who have to wear them all day every day. I'd suggest plastic screens as an alternative, but we've had that discussion already.

[jackg]

^^^ Wow! Wales had a total 3 week lockdown?

What about masks and social distancing?

Is it logical to get proof for the virus?
Is it logical to require your government people to show the proof?
Is it logical to learn enough about understanding what proof is, so that you and your neighbors can figure out if the proof really is proof?

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-09-11/what-you-can-and-cant-do-from-monday-in-wales-as-new-covid-restrictions-come-into-place

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-wales-54108088

I have proof those articles are a month out of date

[Jet Cash]

You don't need all these manipulated "proofs", all you need is to consider a few basic facts, and form your own opinions. If they ( mass media ) stopped calling it the "the spread of infection" to create panic and hysteria, and they called it "the spread of immunity", then we could carry on as normal, and we could protect those who have become vulnerable through pharmaceuticals and poisonous foods, and deaths and loss of life years would decrease.

Viruses have been around since the early days of life forms.
Corona viruses were first detected in the 1930s
Cross viral immunity is built from healthy food and lifestyles, not by immuno-suppressants and drugs.
The human immune system has evolved over thousands of years of testing and evolution, and is obviously successful. Observing the health of US and UK citizens, it is obvious that the Pharma alternatives are destructive and inadequate, and weaken the health and the wealth of most of the population.

Forget the claptrap that comes from government and Pharma propaganda, and just look around you, and think about what you can observe about modern life.

[Natsuu]

There is no cure for Covid. But... we don't need one, and we don't want the lies that we are getting from government.


CDC Study Showed in June the New Coronavirus Cannot Cause COVID 19

The COVID 19 pandemic hoax has been exposed in detail by critics citing scientific evidence and official records. One important piece of scientific evidence is a study published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in June this year, but ignored by the media and CDC establishment itself so as not to undermine the pandemic story they have been feeding the public.

The CDC study titled "Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 from Patient with Coronavirus Disease, United States" was published in the CDC journal Emerging Infectious Diseases (Volume 26, Number 6). Earlier in October, the study was interpreted by Dr. Tom Cowan for the lay audience under the title Only poisoned monkey kidney cells 'grew' the SARS-CoV-2 'virus' on the site SOTT.net. He wrote:

A thorough and careful reading of this important paper reveals some shocking findings.

As Dr. Cowan comments on the study's methodology, the researchers did not isolate the alleged novel coronavirus; instead they used 37 out of 30 thousand base pairs from "unpurified samples using PCR probes" and put these into a computer program that "filled in the rest of the base pairs." This settling on pretty much arbitrarily selected segments as the viral genome and letting a computer create the rest of it is something utterly unscientific. Dr. Cowan says:

To me, this computer-generation step constitutes scientific fraud.

He then goes on to point to the real shocker in the study. When the viral material, or what the researchers choose to call "SARS-CoV-2" (the one allegedly causing COVID 19), was tested on animals and on human tissues, it didn't cause infection. The so-called virus failed to cause infection in human tissues, even when applied in high amounts. When tested on mice, wild mice didn't develop the disease at all and only a very small number of genetically modified (GMO) mice showed loss of some fur when infected with the virus. Even they did not show any symptoms that have been used by the health authorities to describe the COVID 19.

In other words, the CDC study showed that what is the "virus" allegedly causing COVID 19 does not cause COVID 19 at all.

These revealing results were seemingly so unsettling for the CDC, which has been pushing the COVID pandemic hoax for months, their researchers omitted this result from the conclusion part of their paper.

This is your reply out of those given facts? The opinion of some people that "PANDEMIC IS A HOAX"? how sad to see that you still disregard the researches and standalone facts of other scientists just to believe in one hypothetical statement that twists the word of one research study. I've already given you quite some research studies, findings, documentation, and lab results about the COVID 19, yet you disregard all of those just because it is contrary to what you believe.

You don't need all these manipulated "proofs", all you need is to consider a few basic facts, and form your own opinions. If they ( mass media ) stopped calling it the "the spread of infection" to create panic and hysteria, and they called it "the spread of immunity", then we could carry on as normal, and we could protect those who have become vulnerable through pharmaceuticals and poisonous foods, and deaths and loss of life years would decrease.

Viruses have been around since the early days of life forms.
Corona viruses were first detected in the 1930s
Cross viral immunity is built from healthy food and lifestyles, not by immuno-suppressants and drugs.
The human immune system has evolved over thousands of years of testing and evolution, and is obviously successful. Observing the health of US and UK citizens, it is obvious that the Pharma alternatives are destructive and inadequate, and weaken the health and the wealth of most of the population.

Forget the claptrap that comes from government and Pharma propaganda, and just look around you, and think about what you can observe about modern life.

So your solution is to give all the citizens the said virus to gain immunity, but have you considered the fact these viruses can mutate and produce a new virus that is much worse than before? Prevention of the virus is much better than what you want to do.

"You don't need all these manipulated "proofs""
How can you say proof is manipulated when it is already a PROOF!. You can only say that because you chose not to believe in it and stay in your own way of beliefs. You lack the acceptance of truth when it is clearly bein written, and exposed in front of you.

[franky1]

jet cash lives in a mobile home and keeps to himself. he probably parks it at night in the country well away from other people. and then just drives into town to just charge his phone up and have a coffee before vacating populated area's

jetcash fears getting sick himself. when he cries about the risk of getting it while near the cashier desk. so he does know the risk. but he wants the rest of the world to get sick/die. so that the hope is that the virus circulates out of populous for him to be no longer at risk

the problem is at the current restrictions it would take 4 years to circulate through a 70% herd. and the problem with that is that each season 6-12months it can recirculate through the same group over and over again. meaning his dream of being 100% covid free populous will never be achieved
sorry jetcash the virus is going to remain endemic(always there)

he does not understand that small pox only got abolished from the populous due to vaccines. polio is 99% abolished again due to vaccines

jetcash actually wants people to be sick he wants hospitals over run he wants doctors and nurses to end up being patients themselves. all so he can be a selfish idiot with dreams of freedom.. but the reality of this is foolishness

the social distancing and masks has actually reduced the viral load people inhale. yep it works the amount of symptomatic cases was 80-50% in march without the policy and is now about 40-25% with the policy. so it does actually work. though this means ~2x people can socialise with half the risk thus half the hospitalisation rate. this does not mean suddenly 70% of people can live normal lives with no restrictions.
it means instead of a steady 0.4% spread per week being acceptable. now its about 0.8% a week. meaning yep if people actually do social distancing and wear masks he can get his herd spread with low viral load risk within 2 years instead of 4 years.. emphasis if peopel actually follow the policy

but no. he foolishly pretends its herd immunity right now and he thinks the fantasy is no one should obide by restriction policy anymore.

but there are stats that show hospitalisations are still occuring. which counters his foolish ignorance
yep since schools opened up meaning more parents went back to work. they numbers went up. which shows relaxing the restrictions causes the hospitalisation rate go up
..
maybe he just doesnt know because he is only able to access the internet for 60minutes a day. and wastes 58minutes on conspiracy sites. so maybe its not ignorance but just not having time to research. so i hope as from tomorrow he spends less time on conspiracy sites and more time reading the actual statistics. and then when out in the country using a pen and paper to do some maths and actually learn what the numbers mean.

[Dorodha]

At present testing for Covid19 is limited to hospitals in the United Kingdom a large number of those who died outside the hospital were not included in the statistics. The government has decided to take legal action to impose fines on those who violate the isolation system in the UK. There were guidelines for adhering to social distance to prevent coronavirus infection but many do not agree that the infection is increasing.

[franky1]

At present testing for Covid19 is limited to hospitals in the United Kingdom a large number of those who died outside the hospital were not included in the statistics. The government has decided to take legal action to impose fines on those who violate the isolation system in the UK. There were guidelines for adhering to social distance to prevent coronavirus infection but many do not agree that the infection is increasing.

in march the testing was mainly in hospitals. but now it has expanded.
but now if one kid is tested positive. his whole school year can be tested if they even have the mildest of symptoms. which means that what was say 30k testing of severe patient admissions. is now 300k of random people that think they might have it
yep when hospitals were seeing 20k and nursing homes were seeing 10k of severe symptoms. we are now at the same scale of 'asymptomatic' that were not tested and with the same mild syptomatics. but with less hospitalisations
because social distancing/masks resulted in less severe cases per asymptomatic/mild
we could if everyone were to social distance/maskwear actually complied with the rules. could have even less hospitalisation per asymptomatic/mild. meaning less change of needing to raise the alert level. less chance of tightening the rules. because the hospitals can cope.

i can understand boris doesnt want to go into full lockdown again unless all hospitals were at/over capacity.
i can understand the regional rules so that low spread southwest is more relaxed then high spread north england
so he doesnt want to trigger a full national lockdown unless its unavoidable to prevent hospital overflow.
and he doesnt want to trigger full march-april rules again regionallyunless the hospitals are at critical levels
but that does not mean people should not reduce the risk of it climbing to that point. and the only option to avoid it getting to critical peaks of hospitalisation is to actually wear masks and respect personal space

if cashier spitguards and asking customers to wear a mask inside a shop is all thats really being asked (because your suppose to respect personal space anyway) then thats not much to be asking people to do.
and by doing it. means that they can avoid not being able to socialise with close friends and family.
yep if everyone actually followed level 1 policy they can avoid level 2. but in places where the dont respect level 1 and some dont respect level 2 level 3 is then implemented. and risks of triggering the march-april full restrictions.

so if you want to avoid the practical and easy to perform stuff. expect the rules to tighten and be less able to socialise with close family and friends

yep if family start having weekly house parties of 30people where in previous years they never did.. then they are the ones that will be shooting their selves in the foot by being told they cant even have 6 close friends in their homes.
so dont be an idiot doing the far opposite of the restrictions because you will just cause more restrictions.
this is the one time where protesting against a restriction will actually cause more restrictions.
if you really want to have restrictions relaxed. following them is the fastest way to relax them