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October 27, 2020, 02:35:24 PM
Last edit: October 28, 2020, 01:40:14 AM by YOSHIE
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I'm a little curious about what I saw.
Since topic: Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q4) Created by:@Timelord2067 has a full 127 pages, never seen the Alt account post connected to Archive deleted.

Today I saw another story with what was posted by:@gunungkembar he found 21 connected Alt accounts, but I saw a post made by: @gunungkembar has been deleted.

Luckily: @lovesmayfamilis quote, so evidence.
Post:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg55420243#msg55420243


And we give merit to: @gunungkembar for the hard work of finding a connected Alt.

Merit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1158794

My question:
• Who deleted the post, mod or himself.
• If it is a mod, why was it removed while some of the rules are clearly stated about the Alt account.
• if @gunungkembar itself deletes why and what happens after he publishes it here.


To me it's strange and suspicious something is going on.

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October 27, 2020, 02:40:38 PM
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Because what he found was wrong, that's why he/someone reported his post to moderator to be deleted.

Here is what their bounty manager said


Hello. Thank you for your feedback.

In the morning, we have removed those 21 accounts from the bounties and gave those guys negative trust regarding the thread you sent us.

However, after some complaints, our team made some extra investigation, and we have noticed that the submission of that specific wallet address is not proof of cheating.

Because everyone's BNB address from Binance is the same, those guys did not enter their memo from Binance. It means if all of them were alt accounts of the same cheater, he/she would enter a different BNB address than Binance address or Binance's BNB wallet with the same BNB memo. Without a BNB memo, those BNBs would go to Binance directly, which has no profit to a cheater.

For now, we have to remove those people's negative trust, and we have to add them to the bounty spreadsheet again. We apologize to that 21 participants removing them from bounties without a certain proof. We will increase those 21 people's reward %10 more than they will earn if they will be eligible for the bounty, and they will not have any extra cheating proofs.

Our team is doing its best and works hard to determine the cheaters of bounties. However, we would still be thankful to anyone who can find more cheaters and disclose them for a fairer bounty distribution.

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October 27, 2020, 03:22:10 PM
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Because what he found was wrong, that's why he/someone reported his post to moderator to be deleted.
Nah, moderators can't delete the post either it's wrong or right if anyone doesn't break forum rules. The cheating campaign isn't moderated by the forum since it is allowed to have multiple accounts. Its campaign rules to prevent cheating, moderators aren't involved with any specific campaign rules if it's not against forum rules.

I am assuming the post is deleted by @gunungkembar. I think it's fine to delete evidence that has to turn into wrong. Most likely accusation was wrong according to bounty campaign manager explanations.

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October 27, 2020, 05:14:11 PM
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My question:
• Who deleted the post, mod or himself.
• If it is a mod, why was it removed while some of the rules are clearly stated about the Alt account.


To me it's strange and suspicious something is going on.
I don't think forum moderators have deleted this post where there is specific rules about Alt accounts. Most probably it was deleted by "gunungkembar" and only he can give proper answer about it.

Have you contacted him to know actually what happened?   

• if @gunungkembar itself deletes why and what happens after he publishes it here.
To know more details about this we have to wait for him until he feel it necessary to make a response here. Looking forward to see his description about this. 


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October 27, 2020, 06:18:06 PM
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To know more details about this we have to wait for him until he feel it necessary to make a response here. Looking forward to see his description about this.  


Read the manager's @BountyDetective explanations. Junggernaut wrote above.
These are not alternative accounts.
Maybe that's why @gunungkembar deleted his post. There is no accusation in my post that all accounts are owned by one person. And there is a question for the manager, and in the end, the answer is received.
The situation was resolved. There is no one to blame.

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October 27, 2020, 06:30:08 PM
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Read the manager's @BountyDetective explanations. Junggernaut wrote above.
These are not alternative accounts.
Maybe that's why @gunungkembar deleted his post. There is no accusation in my post that all accounts are owned by one person. And there is a question for the manager, and in the end, the answer is received.
The situation was resolved. There is no one to blame.
Thanks for sharing these information with us. Somehow I missed to check @BountyDetective explanations.

The situation was resolved. There is no one to blame.
After having this confirmation I think no need to discuss further about this and I will suggest "YOSHIE" to lock the topic.


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Last edit: October 28, 2020, 01:55:16 AM by YOSHIE
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After having this confirmation I think no need to discuss further about this and I will suggest "YOSHIE" to lock the topic.
Initially I wanted to hear some comments from @gunungkembar, about this matter, why did he delete it and if the evidence is not strong what is he publishing it for here.

Even so thanks to all of you, for clearing up a little bit about this matter, at first I wanted to investigate further, but I don't think it's necessary anymore.
I saw them: Different country.

I will lock the topic for the next 1x12 hours.

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October 28, 2020, 04:57:07 AM
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He didn't really replied anything after several people pointed out his mistake of thinking that having the same BNB address is the same will make them be owned by 1 person. I guess he didn't really have any other evidence to dispute this case or disprove what others have been said so that is why he deleted his post and didn't pursue anything else.
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