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Question: If you kicked the bucket right now, on-the-spot, would your Bitcoins get passed on?  (Voting closed: November 11, 2020, 04:54:11 PM)
100% certain (that your heirs would manage to access the BTCs) - 25 (31.3%)
90% certain - 8 (10%)
80% certain - 1 (1.3%)
70% certain - 3 (3.8%)
60% certain - 8 (10%)
50% certain - 8 (10%)
40% certain - 3 (3.8%)
30% certain - 5 (6.3%)
20% certain - 1 (1.3%)
10% certain - 5 (6.3%)
0% certain (you're certain that your heirs would not be able to access the BTCs) - 13 (16.3%)
Total Voters: 80

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November 10, 2020, 11:15:58 AM
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I'm only 60% sure that I can pass on my bitcoin if I suddenly died in some ways. Only my girlfriend knows my passwords on different accounts and I also have a folder here in PC that contains all passwords and links to important stuff I have in crypto world. He also knows where I hid some of password written in paper but I don't think she will have interest that's why I'm not 100% that she will have that all if I suddenly died.

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November 10, 2020, 11:35:44 AM
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The Bitcoin i kept in my permanent wallet will get passed on if i suddenly died because i have a Metal Bitcoin Seed Storage which contain my wallet seed and it was kept in my safe deposit box which will be pass to my heir after I died but the Bitcoin i kept in the wallet i use for my day to day transaction will not be pass on.
Have hard of metal bitcoin wallet of late but have not tried it out how does it really works cause it sound like some real deal to me, what I normally do to be able to pass on my asset is to store my wallet pass phrase in a safe place and letting my beloved ones to have access to the safe.
It a metal seeds storage created for cryptocurrency users in other to keep their wallet private information save whenever an accident like fire, car etc happens. Mind you, some stress test happen been performed on this metal storage by Jameson Lopp which is among crypto enthusiast and i can only recommend Quadrat Register.
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November 11, 2020, 12:19:34 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
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The poll has been running for 15 days, which is the scheduled timeframe. After 80 votes, the results are as follows (also added to the OP):



Let’s consider 90% and 100% as rough synonyms here. The results, although 80 participations is low to conclude, do constitute a window that allows us to see that passing on our Bitcoins is not plain simple, and that, were the events to be developed in an abrupt manner, the majority has no certainty that their Bitcoins would be passed on to their heirs:

-   41,3% are pretty certain that their heirs would be able to access the inherited Bitcoins.
-   58,8% are not (and quite a large part of these are pretty certain they would not).

This is normally something we don’t take into consideration too much, but perhaps it’s time to do so …
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November 11, 2020, 01:35:10 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
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Yes since my family knew about it and I don't keep it secret from them,
Since I was young I always keep a note with all my accounts info since I used to play so many online games and I have kept on doing it even in crypto.
So if anything happens to me they could access all of my trading site accounts and wallet.
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November 12, 2020, 12:34:36 PM
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To be honest, this is very scary question. I can't think what i must write to answer this since i never think like that (the situation which OP asked). Few of my relatives knew i've some of investment in bitcoin and altcoin, but i think it's still too soon for them to know more about that (password, private key, etc).

How about you, DdmrDdmr?
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November 12, 2020, 12:52:06 PM
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I didn't really answer myself here on this thread, and only just this morning did I actually do it on my local board.
I selected the 30% option. Honestly, every time I mention Bitcoins around me, I get blank stares for a second or two, before going back on their ignore list. What my environment knows, can be noted down to a figurative 60 second conversation on a lift, with no backed Masterclass on the topic. Those 60 seconds are enough time to let them know where my hardware wallets are, the pins, and the seeds.

Therefore, my heirs may remember to retain the most elementary information they’ll need to have, managing to access the continent (so as to say), but they won’t have a clue how to manage the content.

Normally, one finds that drafting, implementing and testing an access plan will depend not only on one’s own will and ability, but on the complexity one goes into, and the interest and skills that the potential recipients may have. Something to work on in my environment seemingly …
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November 12, 2020, 04:40:29 PM
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I am not really sure if they could use it all if anything happens to me.
They might know how to use my mobile wallet but thats it they don't know how to trade or even send from my MEW so I am not sure if they could use all of my crypto even though they could easily open my wallets since they know my password.
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November 13, 2020, 06:06:33 AM
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55% of my own holding will pass yo my heir but i hope he know how to operate hardware wallet

I also have a folder here in PC that contains all passwords and links to important stuff I have in crypto world.
Saving your password on a computer connected with the Internet is not advisable cause sign on your wallet on the online computer has to expose your wallet not to talk about saving all your password in a PC folder.

Quote from: Astvile link=the topic=5284824.msgon560624#msg55560624 date=1605006958
He also knows where I hid some of password written in paper but I don't think she will have interest that's why I'm not 100% that she will have that all if I suddenly died.
If more government support and legalized Bitcoin she will have interest in Bitcoin and your holding don't judge her understanding about crypto now.

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November 13, 2020, 06:50:31 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
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This is a very interesting question in my opinion, because we really have to think from now on how to make our Bitcoin can be
accessed by the heirs. Unless we are always open about the Bitcoin we have to our families, there is no need to worry if anything
happens to us.

I write down the private keys on a piece of paper, and keep a piece of paper with private keys written on it to be able to access my
hardware wallet where I usually store other valuables. So I am 100% sure that my wife will easily find the private key that I store,
and finally be able to access the Bitcoin that I have.

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November 14, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
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However, I believe I am 90% certain that with the instruction given to two party (both person will need to meet up or exchange the info between them to get the full details), they will be able to figure out the seed to access the coins I have in my cold storage.
This seems to be the most secure way to hide am assets offline I've watched this several times in a movie never knew it happens in real life if  i may ask are these people your family members or friends? Maybe I should entrust a family member and a friend with this recovery strategy.
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November 14, 2020, 01:25:09 PM
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Therefore, my heirs may remember to retain the most elementary information they’ll need to have, managing to access the continent (so as to say), but they won’t have a clue how to manage the content.

Normally, one finds that drafting, implementing and testing an access plan will depend not only on one’s own will and ability, but on the complexity one goes into, and the interest and skills that the potential recipients may have. Something to work on in my environment seemingly …

It's quite good and safe that they are not able to manage the content without your help, maybe they are not that much skilled.

In my case I gathered all of my hardware wallet on a fire proof vault at my home, My wife knows that I have stored important things in the vault and also knows that cryptocurrency related key files are also stored in the vault. She knows the master password of my vault and able to access the content but noone able to manage that content easily cause I have organized them through a puzzle, which is made by based on the activity of my daily life. If someone of my trusted (who knows my actual character like my mother or wife) able to solve the puzzle then he will get the master access of all content.

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I have no heir to the bitcoins I own. I don't have children or adopt. So, if I die today, all the cryptocurrencies I own will also sink. Unless someone managed to open my private key data that is on the laptop that I am currently using.

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Honestly, I don't know if my family members can open my wallet address using my private key if ever I suddenly died. Although my kids know what I am doing and they know that I write in a notebook everything related to my work in crypto but I am not sure that they will understand it because they are still young. It's scary to think that your hard work in crypto will not benefit your family when you suddenly died.

I am now thinking of writing in my notebook how to use the wallet address and private key step by step so that they can open and access my wallet and be able to use the bitcoins and altcoins that I have.

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February 27, 2021, 03:25:54 AM
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I have no heir to the bitcoins I own. I don't have children or adopt. So, if I die today, all the cryptocurrencies I own will also sink. Unless someone managed to open my private key data that is on the laptop that I am currently using.
With time even the small holdings will have much higher value when calculated in terms of USD. Donate eyes so that someone who wasn't able to see the world can enjoy new life. Same as that, make some documentation and let someone enjoy it after your life. Maybe this simple things you take forward will help the needy.

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I have been having a wee bit of a dilemma regarding whether to respond within this particular thread or to create a new topic or to seek out some similarly related topic that is more current - especially since almost all of the responses contained within the nearly 6 pages of this thread took place over a timespan of a bit more than a couple of weeks (in late 2020).

Blame DdmrDdmr for my response herein, since he failed/refused to lock this topic...  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Of course, variations of this topic come up within various contexts, and in the coming week or perhaps longer, I will likely also go through some of the related threads that were linked in this thread (such as jackg's, fillippone's and BlackViruse's), even though those threads seem to have suffered the same kind of short-lived nature(fate), just like this thread.

Essentially, I spent a couple of hours going through the responses in this thread, and the vast majority of the responses are quite good - because it seems that a vast majority of them largely attempt to describe personal practices and personal perspectives on the topic - even though very many of the responses show that a lot of members have really poor practices in regards to how well they are prepared to pass on their keys (or even their maintenance of secure practices or even their NOT providing details beyond merely saying that they are "100%" sure that they can pass down their coins), and even some of them choose to disclose way too much about what they personally are doing in terms of managing their stash or where/how there secret information is stored - surely creating some OP Sec issues, even though DdmrDdmr specifically warned that he was not seeking that kind of information to cause OP Sec vulnerabilities.

And, yeah each of us is responsible for how we choose to communicate about these kinds of ideas regarding our attempts to manage our BTC stash (and perhaps other crypto too) while we are living and potentially being able to transfer value into the afterlife in the event that we are still holding BTC by the time that we pass, and part of the presumption of the OP would be that if we are currently holding BTC, then if our death is sudden, then we would not have any time to take any further measures in respect to passing our stash to someone else, if our stash is in such a position to be passed, or would such stash die within our heads because information in our heads is necessary for getting access to our stash - inevitably potential OP sec issues, no matter how we frame these kinds of matters - but still there can be more safe ways to attempt to discuss some of the security, maintenance and potential transfer of value dilemmas that are presented in the ways that DdmrDdmr had presented the questions.

Of course, the dilemmas in regards to sharing bitcoin related information do not ONLY have to do with the level of interest/knowledge that possible heirs have in terms of paying attention while being taught or understanding, but then also there are likely dilemmas regarding the creation of potential vulnerabilities in regards to the security of the BTC stash and then even traceability of any kind of a security breach in the event that password information had been overly-shared and some kind of a unauthorized movement of funds ends up taking place because some unauthorized person ended up getting access to the password information. 

I do like some of the ideas about sharing some of the password information, but not all of the information.. which maybe some of the instructions could be different from password information, and maybe the password information would not get shared in one location, but instead a need to assemble various pieces - but then the more pieces that have to be assembled, then the more possibilities that access could be lost due to confusion, and presumptively upon our deaths, then the person who we intend is imparted with the various parts of the information is able to then put together the pieces of information in order to be able to access the funds, and surely we would want that to happen in such a way that unintended (or unauthorized) persons would not get access to the information, unless they are trusted.. but still aren't we trying to avoid having to trust anyone.. except for our trusted target person(s) who we want to receive the funds?

A lot of that is fine and dandy in the event that the funds are kept in a small number of places in which such pieces of information could clarify access - yet with the passage of time, the password information and even the instructions likely need to get updated from time to time, which could cause more confusion in regards to where are the coins and if there might have had been some additional locations (or even fewer locations) at time x versus at time x + 2 years later.

Even some things that might seem so easy as accessing someone's computer and phone(s) that might contain a lot of the password and instructional information, but then the computer and/or phones password information might get changed from time to time, and even password managers could get changed from time to time (and we have seen that sometimes it can be dangerous to keep very much information within password managers). 

Part of the advantages and disadvantages towards having some third parties holding coins (such as holding coins on exchanges) could be that they have processes in place for the recovery of accounts by heirs - even though surely we might get back to the dilemma of knowing each and every location in which coins might be kept, but then we may or may not end up disclosing the particulars in regards to how many coins are at each location.. so an heir might have a different amount of incentives if they realize that the amounts of coins are worth hundreds of thousand (or even millions) of dollars (sorry to use dollar value.. but sometimes we need some kind of a reference point) rather than a few hundred dollars in value.  So the level of our security is likely to differ also depending on how much value is contained within the various coin storage locations - and surely, we have seen that the dollar value could end up changing a lot in a fairly short period of time (such as going up 10x, 20x, 50x or more in a short period of time) and even causing mismatches with either the level of our security as compared with the value of the coins or even the changes in amount of incentives (enthusiasm) that an heir might have in regards to contemplating the desires to attempt to access (perhaps puzzle solve?) and/or recover various accounts/wallets.

Of course, like some members mentioned, if we have a person that we trust who is also technical, then we could have that person help out in the recovery and access of coins, but that person may well not have access to the recovery/access information until after our death.. .. and is there a way (or procedure) to verify that we are actually dead, rather than some other status that may or may not be as permanent as death (for example, we could be temporarily disabled, in jail, out of touch, or some other recoverable status that is temporarily unavailable and unable to stop people close to us from accessing items/information that we would otherwise personally guard). 

Another angle has to do with the status of those potentially entrusted with password and instructional information in terms of their possibly dying, being disabled or being compromised at some point that might be after our having had given them access to the information but prior to their ability to secure the bitcoin (presumptively after our death when we are no longer able to clarify instructions).. so even if we might pass on the password and instructional information, if they do not adequately secure the coins (or create proper backups - and/or their own proper security), then they could end up losing the coins or losing access to the coins prior to either cashing them out or transferring them.

For sure, I am not suggesting that there are any easy answers to these questions because I have personally grappled with some of these matters myself in my attempt to provide access to information that is maybe located in more than one location, but persons that I trust are not going to attempt to access the information prior to my death (but then there still can be questions regarding if the persons that I trust might end up attempting access prior to their being authorized to access it) because with bitcoin there are ongoing needs to engage in some levels of precaution in regards, to making the password and the instructional information clear but not too clear.. if all of the information is in one spot, then the information becomes vulnerable, and people will sometimes end up causing vulnerabilities that they had not realized that they had caused because they fail/refuse to sufficiently/adequately understand how the password and/or instructional information/value that they are engaging with is different from some other kinds of asset classes that they might better know the vulnerabilities.... or the level of irreversibility (or insurability) is not the same with something like bitcoin as compared with some physical assets or even some monetary assets that are backed up by third parties (credit cards for example).

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When there's trust with the immediate family members be it siblings, wife, or children then there's no big deal in confiding trust in one of them, if you see someone who is completely adamant in trusting people that could be so close to him from the examples made then such person as well should be suspected with having some kind of hidden agenda uncalled for, just as we know that any bitcoin we hodl and we couldn't have access it unblocking keys on the blockchain by us or our family member is a waste and such is gone for life without anyone benefiting from it, i still could wonder how some people could have nobody to trust in life including wife and children, what will such individual leave behind for them to enjoy if anything happens.

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I'm not thinking of dying anytime soon as I'm very young. But to be honest for now I've no one I can entrust with such sensitive information like the seed phrase to my wallet. But to answer this question, there's need for someone you trust to know the seed phrase or private keys to your bitcoin wallet and other crypto asset wallet par adventure something unexpected happens to you, the family can still get access to your funds. I'm just courting, I don't have kids, only siblings... But when I find the right person I would do the needful.

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My body began to fail. I slurred my speech, lost strength in my hands, and my legs were slow to recover. In August, 2009, I was given the diagnosis of ALS, also called Lou Gehrig's disease, after the famous baseball player who got it.
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But my life expectancy is limited. Those discussions about inheriting your bitcoins are of more than academic interest. My bitcoins are stored in our safe deposit box, and my son and daughter are tech savvy. I think they're safe enough. I'm comfortable with my legacy.
Hal Finney has come to the end of his life and just before his deathbed he shares the precious words of life for everyone in our Bitcoin forum. No matter how sweet life may be, there is an end to life and we must suffer that end. We all have to face the eternal truth of death and prepare ourselves accordingly.
Hal Finney left bitcoins in a secure offline wallet for his wife and children, reminding him repeatedly that bitcoin would become a valuable competitive currency near the end of his life. If a man leaves bitcoins for his children's safety on his deathbed then we should leave bitcoins for our children and spouses like him.
None of us can tell when someone will die and we can't tell the state of our wallet when we are on the brink of death so we should disclose or document important security things like wallet password, backup key, seed phase etc. among trusted family members. Go so that we can recover our stored bitcoins after our death.
Anyway, I have already written the seed phase of my Electrum bitcoin wallet to my younger brother and my wife in a diary so that if something happens to me, they can retrieve my stored bitcoins for future use.

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My body began to fail. I slurred my speech, lost strength in my hands, and my legs were slow to recover. In August, 2009, I was given the diagnosis of ALS, also called Lou Gehrig's disease, after the famous baseball player who got it.
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But my life expectancy is limited. Those discussions about inheriting your bitcoins are of more than academic interest. My bitcoins are stored in our safe deposit box, and my son and daughter are tech savvy. I think they're safe enough. I'm comfortable with my legacy.
Hal Finney has come to the end of his life and just before his deathbed he shares the precious words of life for everyone in our Bitcoin forum. No matter how sweet life may be, there is an end to life and we must suffer that end. We all have to face the eternal truth of death and prepare ourselves accordingly.
Hal Finney left bitcoins in a secure offline wallet for his wife and children, reminding him repeatedly that bitcoin would become a valuable competitive currency near the end of his life. If a man leaves bitcoins for his children's safety on his deathbed then we should leave bitcoins for our children and spouses like him.
None of us can tell when someone will die and we can't tell the state of our wallet when we are on the brink of death so we should disclose or document important security things like wallet password, backup key, seed phase etc. among trusted family members. Go so that we can recover our stored bitcoins after our death.
Anyway, I have already written the seed phase of my Electrum bitcoin wallet to my younger brother and my wife in a diary so that if something happens to me, they can retrieve my stored bitcoins for future use.
Still many of us ignore the fact that it is an universal truth. Maybe many of us are still thinking that with in short possible of time we will give the keys of our wallet to someone we trust. When death will be occurred there will be no chance to get a little moment and at that time our bitcoins will not be recoverable. Things that seem easy to me that I can figure out these keys in less than a minute, but when I die, the descendants can't even try for a lifetime. So instead of being lazy, those keys should be quickly shared with someone you trust.

It may also happen that someone suddenly becomes paralyzed due to a stroke and loses his memory, in which case he can't recover his bitcoins even when he's alive. It's harder than dying. In such a situation, even if you have your bitcoins, you will lose your keys.

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When there's trust with the immediate family members be it siblings, wife, or children then there's no big deal in confiding trust in one of them,

You need to be careful Aanuoluwatofunmi when you presume that your choices in regards to who to trust or how much to trust them is necessarily amongst the better of decisions for other members - especially since there are likely a whole hell of a lot of variety in terms of individual circumstances  that involve possible relationships and even possible size of the stash considerations.

So, yes, it would be better if any member is able to identify at least a couple of people whom s/he is able to trust with financial information or even successorship information, yet even in the best of circumstances, there could be issues that might not even exactly involve the BTC HODLer, but might involve the potential beneficiaries or the trusted person.. in terms of their competency, their interests in the topic and their trustworthiness (even though that trustworthiness part seems to be what you are wanting to presume to be present within certain kinds of relationships).

if you see someone who is completely adamant in trusting people that could be so close to him from the examples made then such person as well should be suspected with having some kind of hidden agenda uncalled for, just as we know that any bitcoin we hodl and we couldn't have access it unblocking keys on the blockchain by us or our family member is a waste and such is gone for life without anyone benefiting from it,

For sure, any of us who have attempted to think through the problem of how much to share or how much trust to provide in others in regards to our BTC instructional information and/or password information are going to realize that part of the risk of not sharing enough is going to be either completely losing the access for the benefits of potential loved-one beneficiaries or even being able to benefit some cause that we might want to contribute to in order that the accumulation of our bitcoin would not go to waste in terms of our individual ability to benefit from our BTC holdings after our death (or disability).

i still could wonder how some people could have nobody to trust in life including wife and children, what will such individual leave behind for them to enjoy if anything happens.

This seems to be your own lack of imagination to be unable to relate towards normal/regular people having various circumstances in which some of them do not end up having anyone in his/her life that s/he is able to trust.  Sure there are crazy and strange people, but there are also likely strange and crazy circumstances that are not exactly like the circumstances that you have in your life an in your surroundings, that you presume any "normal/regular" person should have.  Sure, sometimes individuals might be culpable in creating their own situation and/or problem in regards to NOT having anyone in their lives in which they can trust, and perhaps there are other kinds of fluke circumstances or even unintended or unrealized circumstances that end up happening that might not have had been as foreseeable as you might want to proclaim them to be in order that you can assign culpability to the person who finds himself/herself in such circumstances of NOT feeling that s/he can trust anyone.

I'm not thinking of dying anytime soon as I'm very young.

Of course, you are not thinking about it.

It is a common problem that seems to be way worse amongst young people, and it is quite understandable that young and healthy people may even have tendencies to believe that they are going to live forever and even have abundance of energy that they believe that they are going to be able to retain into their older ages, but without realizing that some aspects of aging are outside of our control, and surely even some aspects of our starting points in life are out of our control too.. .. and some people are better able to adapt, prosper and even thrive from relatively bad starting points - which likely contributes towards longer living and better living conditions..

But to be honest for now I've no one I can entrust with such sensitive information like the seed phrase to my wallet. But to answer this question, there's need for someone you trust to know the seed phrase or private keys to your bitcoin wallet and other crypto asset wallet par adventure something unexpected happens to you, the family can still get access to your funds. I'm just courting, I don't have kids, only siblings... But when I find the right person I would do the needful.

I cannot disagree with any of these kinds of points, and many of us realize that even folks who enter into relations with another person (and even have kids with that other person), may well discover, at a later point in life, that they are not able to trust that other person.. and there could be a variety of reasons that the trust is either lost, or not able to be built... and sometimes it is difficult to realize the extent to which trust is built or lost.. until later down the road...and then at that point, it can be difficult to start over.. but instead there would be needs to start from a different starting point and of course, having the experiences of the earlier situation which could either cloud judgement, create bitterness or maybe, alternatively, contribute towards the person having greater enlightenment later on in life in part by feeling more informed from the earlier experiences.

My body began to fail. I slurred my speech, lost strength in my hands, and my legs were slow to recover. In August, 2009, I was given the diagnosis of ALS, also called Lou Gehrig's disease, after the famous baseball player who got it.
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But my life expectancy is limited. Those discussions about inheriting your bitcoins are of more than academic interest. My bitcoins are stored in our safe deposit box, and my son and daughter are tech savvy. I think they're safe enough. I'm comfortable with my legacy.
Hal Finney has come to the end of his life and just before his deathbed he shares the precious words of life for everyone in our Bitcoin forum. No matter how sweet life may be, there is an end to life and we must suffer that end. We all have to face the eternal truth of death and prepare ourselves accordingly.
Hal Finney left bitcoins in a secure offline wallet for his wife and children, reminding him repeatedly that bitcoin would become a valuable competitive currency near the end of his life. If a man leaves bitcoins for his children's safety on his deathbed then we should leave bitcoins for our children and spouses like him.
None of us can tell when someone will die and we can't tell the state of our wallet when we are on the brink of death so we should disclose or document important security things like wallet password, backup key, seed phase etc. among trusted family members. Go so that we can recover our stored bitcoins after our death.

For sure, there are some unique circumstances with Hal that is not really part of the hypothetical that OP outlined - and surely, there could be some people who fall into circumstances similar to Hal's, but I doubt that is the case.

In this thread, OP presented a hypothetical in which any of us needs to consider taking a snap-shot regarding where we are at right at this moment - in the event that we were struck by death - and perhaps presuming that whatever our other life circumstances, such as our papers, notes and electronic devices were not wiped out in such scenario  - but even the OP's hypothetical seems to be have had been open enough in order that we likely should be attempting to assign probabilities (rather than presuming) in regards to whether our backups (or access to passwords and information about our BTC holdings) would be sufficient in order to sufficiently allow for our intended beneficiaries to be able to transfer the BTC value to their control.. so that our part is done.. and the circumstance in which any of us knows in advance about or impending doom (soon death) seems to be more of a minority scenario that may or may not end up fitting within the circumstances that OP proposed to be part of the question presented in this thread.

By the way, I had not even assigned any kind of probability to my own abilities and/or success in passing down my coins, and it seems that at each stage in my 9.5 year bitcoin journey, my assessment of my ability to pass down coins and the actual practicality of those coins being passed down would have changed.. sometimes the perceptions of the ability to pass down coins might not really match up with the actuality of what would have likely happened if I had dropped dead at any point in the past 9.5 years.. so my assessment of my ability to pass down the coins might not have had matched the reality of whether coins would have had been successfully passed down.... so maybe I have had periods of less than 50/50 and even now gosh, I wonder if the odds are even better than 70%, even though I have been working on various angles to both preserve the passing down of instructional and password information but also figuring out ways that if any specific part of that instructional/password information were to be intercepted, that it would not be enough, on its own, to remove my coins from me while I am still living... and don't get me wrong, there have been some times in the past 9.5 years that I have had coins removed from me, against my then preferences.

Anyway, I have already written the seed phase of my Electrum bitcoin wallet to my younger brother and my wife in a diary so that if something happens to me, they can retrieve my stored bitcoins for future use.

I don't want to know about too many of your details, and sure I think that it is better to have more than one person who has potential information to  get your coins.. but there are possibilities that your information could be too transparent if it is all in one place.... and another thing is that if you have some coins that are in other places, and so many of bitcoiners likely experiment with a variety of different wallets that likely would include exchanges (or third parties) and even lightning wallets (some of which are meant to be self-custodial and others that involve third parties), and there might be some other circumstances in which we move coins to make them more secure (such as adding passwords or maybe even multi-signature set-ups), and there may well be a certain level of ongoing evolution in what each (and any) of us is doing, and we need to both secure the information for ourselves, but also potentially be able to pass on that information to intended beneficiaries.

Of course, when the amounts might be small, we might end up being less preoccupied by how much BTC might be stored in any one of our preserved locations; however, we also know that sometimes the value of bitcoin can change quite dramatically (including to the upside) in terms of where some of our coins might be held... I recall some coins that I had held at specific addresses in 2015/2016 that amounted to around $100 in value, and the BTC price at that time was perhaps around $350.. .. so some of those coins may well would have had been around 0.3 BTC... and I did not consider them to be very much; however, when the BTC price went up to $19,666 in late 2017, then 0.3 BTC becomes a value of nearly $6k, and so then some of the relatively small amounts of value end up becoming way more important than we had originally consider the value to have had been relatively small amounts of value kept in various locations that we had not been keeping close track and we might not have had been securing very well.. but when $100 becomes $6k, then our attention to the coins might change.. and even in that same scenario, we could consider instances in which $1k became $60k in a matter of around a couple of years..... or even in a shorter period of time, depending on when the measuring time might have had happened..and some amounts that we had been ignoring became way more important in terms of our own desires to treat those amounts more seriously at a later point down the road.

Still many of us ignore the fact that it is an universal truth. Maybe many of us are still thinking that with in short possible of time we will give the keys of our wallet to someone we trust. When death will be occurred there will be no chance to get a little moment and at that time our bitcoins will not be recoverable. Things that seem easy to me that I can figure out these keys in less than a minute, but when I die, the descendants can't even try for a lifetime. So instead of being lazy, those keys should be quickly shared with someone you trust.

It may also happen that someone suddenly becomes paralyzed due to a stroke and loses his memory, in which case he can't recover his bitcoins even when he's alive. It's harder than dying. In such a situation, even if you have your bitcoins, you will lose your keys.

Like you seem to be suggesting GigaBit, at the time of our "impending death" we might not even realize that we are going to die.... Many people presume that they are going to live, even when they are put into life-critical circumstances. ... .. and then like you said.. some situations are similar to death, especially if we end up experiencing some kind of head trauma.. or even if we might be alive but we are not able to communicate with anyone that we trust for an extended period of time...

....so then the password and/or instructional information in regards to our BTC stash does not get transmitted to the intended recipient(s).. such that we might have wanted to say: "look under the third couch pillow in the green couch in the garage for the secret instructional paper - that will lead the intended person (hopefully) to the password information that is located in 3 places we did not even write any of those instructional pieces (or sufficiently keep them up-to-date, if we had written them).

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