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October 29, 2020, 11:55:38 AM Last edit: October 29, 2020, 12:09:09 PM by smartcontracts100 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM51FVRVbU0Are Muslims stupid ? ...do they really want to piss off Europe this bad ... have you morons forgot what happened in Europe and the history of Europe ? Holocaust,WW1,WW2,Crusades,Wars etc etc ... Europe is not scared of beheading ,shit we did that daily here ,even worse stuff ... your just waking the Dragon by doing this sort of stuff. Europe is already angry with Covid and other problems... just read European history,to see what we are capable of... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By doing this types of attacks your going to make Europeans elect ultra nationalists... One of does guys was Hitler
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October 29, 2020, 12:23:01 PM |
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You already sound like a nationalist? All Muslims aren't one group of people perhaps uou should state the countries instead...
Western Europe is powerful, the east just has the west for backing and check how much they're helping Poland to work out they won't do much until they're under attack...
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October 29, 2020, 12:48:56 PM |
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You can't just generalize a couple guys wrong moves as whole religion being bad, even though I am not a muslim myself I could tell you that nationalism increases because of people like you and not because of people like the ones that did the crimes. There are tons of people who commit crime in europe every single day, from murder to much smaller stuff and none of them causes you to think if they are dangerous because of their religion, neither should the muslim guy killing someone, that shows he was a bad person and not his religion.
On the other hand I do support an easing into soceity idea as well, if a nation has %99 christian population and suddenly get 50k+ muslims all at once that would be bad for the culture, there are now 50k people who have no idea how people live in europe, they have only seen the life in middle east so they can't comprehend many things in the new culture, which means they should probably not be living hand in hand together without any help at all, they should be helped to understand the new culture a lot better before they could get involved this deeply.
However this backwards ideas of middle east is not because of themselves, for the past 35 years middle east has been getting bombed by europe and america non-stop. These nations never had the chance to grow, build schools, build business', build farms and basically become a decent country. They have been war thorn for decades now and obviously because of this they never became the old culture they used to be, they became close minded with hatred because of this. If you could have stopped killing them, maybe instead of growing full with hate towards others due to being bombed constantly and having to run away from their own nations to the nations that bombed them, they could have stayed in their own nation and grow bigger peacefully.
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October 29, 2020, 01:06:02 PM |
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You already sound like a nationalist? All Muslims aren't one group of people perhaps uou should state the countries instead...
Western Europe is powerful, the east just has the west for backing and check how much they're helping Poland to work out they won't do much until they're under attack...
Include also Russia to Eastern Europe as Russia is a orthodox country...
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October 29, 2020, 01:10:38 PM |
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On the other hand I do support an easing into soceity idea as well, if a nation has %99 christian population and suddenly get 50k+ muslims all at once that would be bad for the culture, there are now 50k people who have no idea how people live in europe, they have only seen the life in middle east so they can't comprehend many things in the new culture, which means they should probably not be living hand in hand together without any help at all, they should be helped to understand the new culture a lot better before they could get involved this deeply.
Wait they don't get offered counselling or anything?. I imagine a lot of them have seen enough people die - based on annacdotes of civilians going over there. They're used to experiencing violence by this point, they really ought to have tried to given them some sort of eduction or even somewhere to work among groups of refugees, migrants and natives in simple jobs... However this backwards ideas of middle east is not because of themselves, for the past 35 years middle east has been getting bombed by europe and america non-stop. These nations never had the chance to grow, build schools, build business', build farms and basically become a decent country. They have been war thorn for decades now and obviously because of this they never became the old culture they used to be, they became close minded with hatred because of this. If you could have stopped killing them, maybe instead of growing full with hate towards others due to being bombed constantly and having to run away from their own nations to the nations that bombed them, they could have stayed in their own nation and grow bigger peacefully.
... Yeah I was just thinking of the headlines we'd actually get if what the UK, France and the US were doing were considered terrorism and not attempting to "play the white guy"... "hundreds of innocents killed by unmanned drones just for gathering in the streets in groups" and "European soldiers sent to fight alongside rebels who are considered less corrupt at this point"... No wonder the radicalisation plans worked so well...
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October 29, 2020, 01:16:30 PM Last edit: October 29, 2020, 06:27:48 PM by mprep |
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So what is European civilians got to do with bombings ... what's my mother that is praying in Church got to do with the politicians ? We vote and does guys bomb for their own reasons ...you want to behead someone ,behead the leader not the poor people . Beheading Christian civilians it will make life even worse for Muslims,if you respond with hate you will get more hate. Europeans know very well how to hate and how to do ethnic cleansing.Just watch documentaries on tv or youtube.
Muslims put red flags etc on building to announce Jihad ...take example of Iran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmKF3CKdrcs ... they talk but no action ... For Christians all it takes is the Pope and Orthodox Patriarchs to say that the Final Holy War (Armageddon) has started and Muslims are Satan's Followers .At this point you will get the christian fanatics started . And once the have the "blessing" of God they going to poison your food,waters,use bio weapons,chemical weapons,nukes ,the hole arsenal ( Don't forget that the generals of European armies are Christians most of them) ... Like Muslims have a Heaven so do Christians have one . Look at what just one christian fanatic guy did in New Zealand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20fPsPBj9Ew without the "Jihad" Flag raised by the Pope. Hate you fight with Love not with hate.[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
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Do you really believe that politicians care about the lost people? They just want to get more attention using something which people hates that already. Terrorism has no religion but it always done with the intention of personal benefits for some group of people.
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This is another case where you need to go back to the Knights Templar and the Crusades to understand what is going on.
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Are Muslims stupid ? ...do they really want to piss off Europe this bad ... have you morons forgot what happened in Europe and the history of Europe ?
There are a lot of people in Europe that are Muslims. So I am 100% sure they dont want t piss them self. Same as there are a lot religious people in Europe. All religious people are not very smart, but that dont make them stupid. Religions are getting way to many influence in society. They are very unimportant and are getting more and more unimportant.
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October 29, 2020, 05:59:41 PM |
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On the other hand I do support an easing into soceity idea as well, if a nation has %99 christian population and suddenly get 50k+ muslims all at once that would be bad for the culture, there are now 50k people who have no idea how people live in europe, they have only seen the life in middle east so they can't comprehend many things in the new culture, which means they should probably not be living hand in hand together without any help at all, they should be helped to understand the new culture a lot better before they could get involved this deeply.
Wait they don't get offered counselling or anything?. I imagine a lot of them have seen enough people die - based on annacdotes of civilians going over there. They're used to experiencing violence by this point, they really ought to have tried to given them some sort of eduction or even somewhere to work among groups of refugees, migrants and natives in simple jobs... However this backwards ideas of middle east is not because of themselves, for the past 35 years middle east has been getting bombed by europe and america non-stop. These nations never had the chance to grow, build schools, build business', build farms and basically become a decent country. They have been war thorn for decades now and obviously because of this they never became the old culture they used to be, they became close minded with hatred because of this. If you could have stopped killing them, maybe instead of growing full with hate towards others due to being bombed constantly and having to run away from their own nations to the nations that bombed them, they could have stayed in their own nation and grow bigger peacefully.
... Yeah I was just thinking of the headlines we'd actually get if what the UK, France and the US were doing were considered terrorism and not attempting to "play the white guy"... "hundreds of innocents killed by unmanned drones just for gathering in the streets in groups" and "European soldiers sent to fight alongside rebels who are considered less corrupt at this point"... No wonder the radicalisation plans worked so well... Probably easier said then done when it comes to counseling and such. You'll require a lot of resources and planning to ensure that every single refugee in the country is given the resources that they may need. Plus like - I'd assume that the Europeans may not be happy to see more of their tax dollars go towards people that aren't them. Most countries have some sort of mental illness problem, focusing all efforts on a small subset of people probably isn't too popular with the taxpayers. But if these countries want to reap the benefits of more people being apart of their economy, they're going to need to put in the work to ensure that they're adjusting to life. That also assumes that the people want to adjust to what western life consists of.
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October 29, 2020, 06:20:05 PM |
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Probably easier said then done when it comes to counseling and such. You'll require a lot of resources and planning to ensure that every single refugee in the country is given the resources that they may need. Plus like - I'd assume that the Europeans may not be happy to see more of their tax dollars go towards people that aren't them.
Most countries have some sort of mental illness problem, focusing all efforts on a small subset of people probably isn't too popular with the taxpayers.
But if these countries want to reap the benefits of more people being apart of their economy, they're going to need to put in the work to ensure that they're adjusting to life. That also assumes that the people want to adjust to what western life consists of.
Yeah I tried to rephrase a little as a wrote it to not directly say counselling was the only option. A small amount of decompression in a field or something picking fruit or a similar task around volunteers from the country that brought them, volunteer refugees and the new refugees that arrive. Even if just for an hour or two would probably do something to relax them and help them intermingle. I don't know if mentorships are a thing over there but they seem like something that would be cheap enough to manage. You can't fix mental health problems of natives in western countries tbh they're going to continue to relapse and that's why it's a problem (the main issue is the lack of research imo and a lot of mental health practices rely on outdated procedures from the 80s at best and 50s at worst - drug therapy reminds me of Turing too much).
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October 29, 2020, 06:33:24 PM |
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Probably easier said then done when it comes to counseling and such. You'll require a lot of resources and planning to ensure that every single refugee in the country is given the resources that they may need. Plus like - I'd assume that the Europeans may not be happy to see more of their tax dollars go towards people that aren't them.
Most countries have some sort of mental illness problem, focusing all efforts on a small subset of people probably isn't too popular with the taxpayers.
But if these countries want to reap the benefits of more people being apart of their economy, they're going to need to put in the work to ensure that they're adjusting to life. That also assumes that the people want to adjust to what western life consists of.
Yeah I tried to rephrase a little as a wrote it to not directly say counselling was the only option. A small amount of decompression in a field or something picking fruit or a similar task around volunteers from the country that brought them, volunteer refugees and the new refugees that arrive. Even if just for an hour or two would probably do something to relax them and help them intermingle. I don't know if mentorships are a thing over there but they seem like something that would be cheap enough to manage. You can't fix mental health problems of natives in western countries tbh they're going to continue to relapse and that's why it's a problem (the main issue is the lack of research imo and a lot of mental health practices rely on outdated procedures from the 80s at best and 50s at worst - drug therapy reminds me of Turing too much). They probably are (mentorships), though COVID didn't really help the whole job market which makes western people pretty angry about letting more refugees into their nation as they think (sometimes rightfully so, not sure) that their jobs are being lost / given to those that just got here. Then again, all of this requires planning and such that isn't so popular. Defending the nation is popular. Big crazy statements about national defense and spying and all of that is popular. May not work, but it's popular nonetheless.
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^ In the OP post obviously that is from a European country and it sounds to me that you are trying to threaten these Muslims for doing these crusades if such, I must agree that European are capable of doing things like what you mentioned beheading and the worst but we should understand that all of us are entitled to express ourselves and be heard regardless of our religion. Sadly it appears to me that in your post you are already claiming that leaders in the European countries have short-tempered. Nevertheless, they didn't want to listen because on my end I believe that these crusades and the likes will never happen if leaders of different countries understand each other and believe in one goal and that is to live in a world of peace.
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October 29, 2020, 08:12:08 PM |
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To tell you, don't generalize that it's them.
Have some respect to the religion and to the good people that are part of it. Condemn the bad ones those that are exactly part of the group regardless of which religion they are part of.
Don't point your fingers in general which will hurt others feelings with your words.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM51FVRVbU0Are Muslims stupid ? ...do they really want to piss off Europe this bad ... have you morons forgot what happened in Europe and the history of Europe ? Holocaust,WW1,WW2,Crusades,Wars etc etc ... Europe is not scared of beheading ,shit we did that daily here ,even worse stuff ... your just waking the Dragon by doing this sort of stuff. Europe is already angry with Covid and other problems... just read European history,to see what we are capable of... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By doing this types of attacks your going to make Europeans elect ultra nationalists... One of does guys was Hitler Who started this first ? Who is using the freedom of expression to play with the Muslims emotions and you think that muslims will not show any reaction ? Muslim world condemns Macron, France over treatment of IslamIf you do such cheap things, better ready for such reactions. Better do respect and get respect.
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October 30, 2020, 12:46:28 PM |
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If you do such cheap things, better ready for such reactions. Better do respect and get respect.
I am not saying the french didn't f..ked up by not minding their own biz ... just saying islamic extremists are poking the Bear ... Imagine if Europe gets pissed off and stops caring about human rights etc ... All North Africa and Minor Asia will be colonized ... population sent to concentration camps and killed with Zyklon B or some other stupid pesticide. You piss off one European Country you piss off the other 26 countries in EU ...then if we go full religious war Muslims vs Christians you will piss off a lot of countries beside European continent ( USA , Russia, Canada,Almost All South American , Ex Soviet Block and so on ) . On Muslim side you got African Countries, Minor Asia, Some Asian countries and that's it ... Christians have Nukes this days that's what i am trying to say ...
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October 30, 2020, 06:36:56 PM |
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I think Europe really doesn't really care about religious matters at this time... The problems that occur in France at this time are deliberately exaggerated, it is a trivial matter and the French president spoke those words because he was angry at the bad events that occurred in his country because of religious matters. The sanctions imposed by Middle Eastern countries are too excessive.
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October 30, 2020, 06:44:42 PM |
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You can blame The EU and the US for that. What did you think would happen when you fund and arm the opposition to take down Assad in Syria? Now half of the Syrian people live in the neighboring countries and many of them live in Europe.
You voted for this.
Send your thanks to Obama. (and to those who supported him)
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October 30, 2020, 11:48:36 PM |
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The Europeans should have been more nationalistic in the first place..
If Muslims can’t control themselves in a civilized manner after someone “offends” their religion or draws some silly pictures, then they have no business being in civilized western countries in the first place and need to go back..
Don’t have sympathy for people who can’t handle being offended or criticized..
And yes, white people are very very nice people until you piss them off, and then it turns out they are best at war, proven time and time again in history..
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