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October 30, 2020, 03:49:54 AM
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I just watched a local news ( Philippines) where a police officer died during a raid of an illegal cockfight. as some of you might know the rooster on a cockfight has to wear a piece of an extremely
sharp blade called "tari" (photo below) while ifghting. according to the news, the officer's femoral artery was cut after being attack by one of the roosters in the cockfight that has tari attached to its legs. the officer was brought to the hospital but was announced dead on arrival due to blood loss.

the news said that the authorities were able to capture 6 of the organizer but there are still looking for 3 more people who were able to escaped during the raid.

one of the infuriating part here is that cockfighting was allowed in the area if organizers followed proper procedure and health protocol in order to legally operate during this pandemic. but these bastards decided fuck the law. and now their stupidity and lack of following the protocols resulted to someone's death.

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October 30, 2020, 04:10:02 AM
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Aside from the main issue that it is an illegal cockfighting ring, the death is an accident and it does not have any correlation with the raid. Philippines has a big problem when it comes to this illegal cockfighting ring because a lot of money is involved in this kind of games, even politicians are known to bet on this games. Some are protected by the local authorities because they are bribed. There was once a story where a hitman is hired by a politician to kill the owner of the winning fighter, although it was a long time ago. There have been cases the same as this one that I have known of and by far this is the only time that someone died.

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October 30, 2020, 04:48:20 AM
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I just watched a local news ( Philippines) where a police officer died during a raid of an illegal cockfight. as some of you might know the rooster on a cockfight has to wear a piece of an extremely
Sorry to hear about the death of law enforcers in the Philippines.
That is the responsibility of a law enforcer in eradicating gambling in the Philippines, how can chickens attack a human being, let alone the police, I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.

This is the worst experience for the police there, killed in cock attack, indeed in the Philippines chicken betting is quite common there, maybe in the future the police will be more careful when carrying out raids, hopefully the same thing won't happen again.

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October 30, 2020, 05:03:20 AM
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I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted. Well it's too bad for police for what happened it looks like this is a dangerous type of gambling not just for the animals that was killed every fight but also to humans who could really dealt serious damage or fatality.

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October 30, 2020, 05:06:39 AM
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I hope these organizers will rot to jail, these people does not respect the law, they know it's illegal during the pandemic but they still do and unfortunately this resulted to a death of an officer. The death of an officer, it should be given justice because he is doing his job to arrest these violators, I wonder how much is the penalty, monetary and jail time, it should be lifted to a higher offense IMO.

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October 30, 2020, 05:13:29 AM
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The death of the Filipino police officer who was in the line of duty is sad and unfortunate news. Despite the fact that the sport of cockfighting was banned in August because local authorities were able to detect that they were being a focus of the Covid19 virus. Disagreeing with the actions of these people with the desire to profit, they dared to organize the event that had a tragic end.
With this outcome the authorities have been able to realize that this sport is dangerous and possibly there will be more restrictions in the future.

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October 30, 2020, 05:29:32 AM
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I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.
that is one of the problems here in the Philippines. majority of public servants like police, military, firefighter, etc.. lack proper equipment. I agree that this thing should have never happened if they have proper gear while conducting raids whether it might be a minor raid or a major raid.

I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted. Well it's too bad for police for what happened it looks like this is a dangerous type of gambling not just for the animals that was killed every fight but also to humans who could really dealt serious damage or fatality.
well, they have, and according to one of the commenters on youtube where I watched the news. this isn't the first time someone died because of it.

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October 30, 2020, 05:31:43 AM
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Aside from the main issue that it is an illegal cockfighting ring, the death is an accident and it does not have any correlation with the raid. Philippines has a big problem when it comes to this illegal cockfighting ring because a lot of money is involved in this kind of games, even politicians are known to bet on this games. Some are protected by the local authorities because they are bribed. There was once a story where a hitman is hired by a politician to kill the owner of the winning fighter, although it was a long time ago. There have been cases the same as this one that I have known of and by far this is the only time that someone died.

There are legal cockplfightimg tournamentn also in Philippines I don't know why many people prefer to use to bet in illegal way . Maybe because it much easier to bet there and anywhere as long as the place is vacant you can start cockfighting.


and for that of the policeman who died it's obviously an accident and no one want that to happen.
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October 30, 2020, 05:39:28 AM
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One of my close friend died in the same way in 2013 as He sometimes sideline as "Kristo" a cockfight Sentensyador.

He had lost too much blood because of that very sharp "Tari" .



about this officer in which the Head of raiding Team had accidentally Hit by the fighting rooster In his Vital artery .

Hope in this way people might understand the risk of gambling in this corona times and also the accident might happen,for sure in that Province the law will be tighten towards this illegal gambling operation.









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October 30, 2020, 05:44:20 AM
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One of my close friend died in the same way in 2013 as He sometimes sideline as "Kristo" a cockfight Sentensyador.

He had lost too much blood because of that very sharp "Tari" .



about this officer in which the Head of raiding Team had accidentally Hit by the fighting rooster In his Vital artery .

Hope in this way people might understand the risk of gambling in this corona times and also the accident might happen,for sure in that Province the law will be tighten towards this illegal gambling operation.

No first aid was done. Police officers are trained to have basic first aid and CPR training, right? No medical personnel nearby or they should have done something to stop the blood? Sometimes, it is hard to believe that this situation still happens. Should have prevented but already too late.
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October 30, 2020, 05:55:09 AM
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The raid was successful but in exchange was a life of a police just because of the "tari" of a cock.

Quite unfortunate but that was an accident and no one wants that to happen.
Now regarding to the illegal cockfighting in general, what happened will not change anything because illegal cockfighting is widely happening nationwide. This must serve as a lesson to all police in our country that whenever they do a raid especially in this things then at least they will come in full suit so that things like this will not happen.

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October 30, 2020, 05:59:36 AM
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I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted

Yup they allowed that sharp knife called "tari" whenever there is a cockfight. Unfortunately, the police officer suffered from huge blood loss, it was clearly an accident but organizers of this illegal gambling game  should be held responsible. People are really hard headed sometimes, let's admit that.

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No first aid was done. Police officers are trained to have basic first aid and CPR training, right?

Sadly, the officer put some clothes to tie his legs but the femoral artery (main artery) was cut by that sharp knife causing his death. You can actually survive from that cut with a rapid medical care which I doubt he was treated immediately as there is no medical representative to treat the cut.

Hope this will be a lesson learned to both parties (government enforcers and gamblers).
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October 30, 2020, 06:21:50 AM
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Cockfighting also occurs in my country as far as I know it's illegal that's why they do it in secret.
It's a pity they can do it legally but chose it to be illegal, if the police's death was really an incident the organizer could still be punished for illegal cockfighting they do.

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October 30, 2020, 06:28:48 AM
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This topic is sensitive IMHO and not worthy for discussion even it is gambling. Because the main subject matter on this news is the death of the police officer due to the rooster and the discussion will only circulate there and not on the gambling. Its very unfortunate to hear this news since policeman should never seize the rooster with blade for confiscation if he has no experience on it because its letal.

I don't understand why he decided to pick the rooster personally while he can ask a person that caught there to assist him on handling the rooster. Anyway damage has been done and lesson learned.

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October 30, 2020, 06:37:50 AM
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It is unfortunate that the raid bore a bad fruit and that is in the form of a law enforcer's death. Before there was cockfighting and Jai Alai as the main games that people gamble with, now Jai Alai is no longer played in the country but cockfighting is still being played and there was the illegal and the "legal" versions being played in the provinces supported by the provincial governments and private companies (someone told me about this and haven't been confirmed). But anyway, lessons will be learned because of this and police should be able to conduct more strategized raids to avoid accidents.

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October 30, 2020, 06:50:29 AM
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You can't avoid accidents, yes here the death might not occurred if these illegal things were completely stopped but money speaks more to the government so people bribe and make the illegal things so much common.

At least in future these kind of things can be avoided by giving proper protocol to organize these games if these games are completely unstoppable even after banning them

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October 30, 2020, 06:58:24 AM
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Aside from the main issue that it is an illegal cockfighting ring, the death is an accident and it does not have any correlation with the raid. Philippines has a big problem when it comes to this illegal cockfighting ring because a lot of money is involved in this kind of games, even politicians are known to bet on this games. Some are protected by the local authorities because they are bribed. There was once a story where a hitman is hired by a politician to kill the owner of the winning fighter, although it was a long time ago. There have been cases the same as this one that I have known of and by far this is the only time that someone died.

When I was a kid, my dad and my grandfather used to have a cockfarm in the province where they breed "champion line" of chickens every generation. We also have a mini stage in our farm where exhibition matches between chickens happen. Way back, my dad brought me to the Araneta stadium where he participated in four (4) matches. He won 3 out of 4 of those and it was a memorable time between me and him.

It saddens me that some people do not follow the strict protocol provided by the government. The pandemic has resulted to countless of deaths and transmissions due to the fact that people do not observe the required and strict rules implemented by the government to prevent further transmission.

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October 30, 2020, 07:08:02 AM
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You can't avoid accidents, yes here the death might not occurred if these illegal things were completely stopped but money speaks more to the government so people bribe and make the illegal things so much common.



People maybe got panic, they run over knowing there is a raid so did the chickens, unfortunately the chicken already wearing a "tari" or blade, and when there's panic, chickens gets panicked as well, maybe these policemen was not properly oriented on how to ensure safety on their raid.

It's unfortunate to see this kind of news that the authorities are the ones who suffered instead of the people violating.


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This game will not be ban for sure, it's only temporarily ban due to the pandemic.

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October 30, 2020, 07:23:14 AM
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That is unfortunate, the death of the policeman was not due to the raid but by accident. There are areas in the Philippines where cockfighting is legal as long as there are papers and they are following safety protocols. Cockfighting had been part of most people in the Philippines, but regulations have to be followed. The raid could've been avoided if the organizers have complied.
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October 30, 2020, 07:39:56 AM
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That is the responsibility of a law enforcer in eradicating gambling in the Philippines, how can chickens attack a human being, let alone the police, I think that the police who came to the chicken gambling place were unprepared and in full uniform and unarmed, that should not have happened, if you used full uniform when attacked by chickens you could be protected.
this was illgegal betting and illegal bettings are commonly being raded and when police do raids they wont usually wore uniform so that they can act as a normal bettor in order for the crowd to not panic and when they are inside thats the time they will call for back up and police that will back are in full uniform .

not just in a uniform but the one that should handle the chicken are expert on this activity because its dangerous knowing that chickens are still equiped with these sharp knives .

 the chicken could have also panic along with the crowd resulting for it to hit the police accidentally
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