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October 30, 2020, 12:53:17 PM
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If cockfighting is allowed in the area then why do the raids as I think it would be better to give advance warning, since the problem or the breach here is just ignoring protocol. If the initial warning is indeed ignored, then the next step is to carry out the raid with more preparedness I think this incident might be avoided.
I don't know if the use of "tari" is allowed or not, because if the problem is just ignoring the protocol, I'm not sure that initially legal cockfighting could become illegal just because it ignored the protocol.

Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.

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October 30, 2020, 01:05:06 PM
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If cockfighting is allowed in the area then why do the raids as I think it would be better to give advance warning, since the problem or the breach here is just ignoring protocol. If the initial warning is indeed ignored, then the next step is to carry out the raid with more preparedness I think this incident might be avoided.
I don't know if the use of "tari" is allowed or not, because if the problem is just ignoring the protocol, I'm not sure that initially legal cockfighting could become illegal just because it ignored the protocol.

Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


AFAIK there is a punishment for the offenders as this is against the law.

Cockfighting still not allowed in GCQ, MGCQ areas — DILG

If they got caught, they will be jailed but they can still post a bail, and the bail is really high, but this one is quite different as someone died and coming from the authorities which for sure they will make sure somebody will end up in jail.

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October 30, 2020, 01:13:18 PM
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Very sad that it has to end like that.

I can't imagine how the enforcer got into the arena of the cockfight if he can arrest those organizers outside of it. Whatever the situation is during that time, it's very tragic and heartbreaking that it ended with a death.
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October 30, 2020, 01:14:51 PM
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I didn't know that they have some sharp knife like that I thought they were just like fighting until one is exhausted. Well it's too bad for police for what happened it looks like this is a dangerous type of gambling not just for the animals that was killed every fight but also to humans who could really dealt serious damage or fatality.
That's how it works here, roosters will have to wear that "tari" (sharp knife) on their feet while fighting. Too bad, it's not the rival rooster that died but the police officer who just did his job to enforce the law. Some might say that there's lack of preparation on the police but if the organizers didn't let this thing happen (especially in the midst of the pandemic), life wouldn't be taken. It might be the rooster and it's tari that caused the death but there must be someone held accountable—and that's not gonna be the rooster for sure.

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October 30, 2020, 01:15:42 PM
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this is a horrible way of death he got killed by an animal and not by a person because theres also cases that authorities are being killed by the illegal operators and their protectors if theres someone that tries to raid thier nest  .

 not to be mean but i feel that illegal operators and gamblers did like what happen to the officer because thier small enjoyment got disrupted at an earlier time but some of the gambling participants still do have a soul to feel bad and feel sorry to the casualty
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October 30, 2020, 01:16:36 PM
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I first heard about this news because it's becoming a meme on social media. But I never expect that this kind of situation will happen that police will die in a raid because of the rooster. But the real issue is that people will still illegally gamble and organize cockfighting even if they know that it's illegal due to the protocols implemented. Also, it's sad that someone who's just doing his job died in this event when he could have lived if they did not disobey the protocol.
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October 30, 2020, 01:25:01 PM
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I first heard about this news because it's becoming a meme on social media. But I never expect that this kind of situation will happen that police will die in a raid because of the rooster. But the real issue is that people will still illegally gamble and organize cockfighting even if they know that it's illegal due to the protocols implemented. Also, it's sad that someone who's just doing his job died in this event when he could have lived if they did not disobey the protocol.
If people were obedient, there will be no raid, but that's life, there are violators and police are just trying to do their job.

Maybe they expect it would happen, the roster killed the police, this time the roster got their revenge on a human as they usually are the toys for the humans just to fulfill their gambling entertainment. Honestly, this is the first time I heard a police got killed by a roster during the raid, rare but it happened.

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October 30, 2020, 02:23:10 PM
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I read this in an article and a post on Facebook. Even though cockfighting is illegal in the country because it doesn't follow the safety precautions or protocol of this pandemic, people are continuing to do it illegally. This will be the first but I don't think this will be the last since there are a lot of hard-headed cockfighters in our country that badly wanted to bet on their roosters.

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October 30, 2020, 02:31:30 PM
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Oh crap!
And now they won't be playing that game anymore since someone died and it was on the part of the authorities.
I am sure his co-officers are now infuriated with this bad news.
It might be considered an accident but it was not supposed to happen if these guys abide by the law.

Condolences to the family of the police officer.
Losing someone during this pandemic is sad and it ain't even because of Covid19.
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October 30, 2020, 03:16:36 PM
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I saw the article the reason why the officer took illegal way to save the player that caused him dead. According to their government promised the family of the officer that the will do everything possible to help the victim family.
The cockfighting raid game will continue since the winner is not yet announce by the game official. The way the death of the officer is paining the game official, I don't think they will announce the real winner in this game.

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October 30, 2020, 03:21:41 PM
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According to the chief of police in that area this is the first time that this things happened it's a freak accident the sharp blade made it's way to the arteries of his leg causing heavy loss of blood, it takes a good Kristo or the cockfight referee to handle those cock with a sharp blade properly, it's very unfortunately circumstances because cockfighting is not allowed during a pandemic anywhere else int he Philippines but there are gamblers who are stubborn to gamble.

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October 30, 2020, 03:29:38 PM
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That's seriously bad news, back in August this year the government banned this illegal gambling in Filipino and some scrupulous individuals took this as advantage to illegally organize a cockfight which has brought to an end the life of a gallant officer. I wouldn't blame the officers but those whom derive pleasure in going against what the government banned. May his gentle soul rest in perfect peace.

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October 30, 2020, 03:37:32 PM
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According to the chief of police in that area this is the first time that this things happened it's a freak accident the sharp blade made it's way to the arteries of his leg causing heavy loss of blood, it takes a good Kristo or the cockfight referee to handle those cock with a sharp blade properly, it's very unfortunately circumstances because cockfighting is not allowed during a pandemic anywhere else int he Philippines but there are gamblers who are stubborn to gamble.
Hahaha no wonder most of the Filipinos are hard headed even if we are facing this Covid19 pandemic they can still manage to play illegal cock fights and etc. because it is the source of income of most of indigenous people in the Philippines most especially on the low lying areas, barrios and informal settlers' area. And they aren't that afraid to the authorities co'z they know how to escape when they caught.
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October 30, 2020, 05:30:11 PM
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You can't avoid accidents, yes here the death might not occurred if these illegal things were completely stopped but money speaks more to the government so people bribe and make the illegal things so much common.



People maybe got panic, they run over knowing there is a raid so did the chickens, unfortunately the chicken already wearing a "tari" or blade, and when there's panic, chickens gets panicked as well, maybe these policemen was not properly oriented on how to ensure safety on their raid.

It's unfortunate to see this kind of news that the authorities are the ones who suffered instead of the people violating.


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This game will not be ban for sure, it's only temporarily ban due to the pandemic.
AFAIK cock fighting is still legal in Phillipines but most of the cock fights were organized illegally that is why authorities are struggling to control it. Police also need to have proper training to handle this and if this is normal happening in that country then better to have separate team for it

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October 30, 2020, 05:55:19 PM
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Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


They should be given a lesson and this is by filing a charges and putting them in prison because they are violating a lot of laws about quarantine, once they put these violators in prison  many will learned their lesson, it's time to be strict on this matters now that there is a policeman that's been killed.

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Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


They should be given a lesson and this is by filing a charges and putting them in prison because they are violating a lot of laws about quarantine, once they put these violators in prison  many will learned their lesson, it's time to be strict on this matters now that there is a policeman that's been killed.

Not only that there were no timely backup and even the officers were not well educated regarding the first aid . This way very easily preventable.


First of all:
 This is animal abuse, it should be banned in the first place. Even if people are doing it illegally one should inform the police in advance.
Now secondly:
 If the femoral artery was cut why weren't other officers trained well enough to just use compression to stop bleeding, literally! This is horrible.
Now thirdly:
Please refrain for any such activities, it is horrible and should be banned 🚫 forever using better strategies and making sure that these people are interrogated well enough to find the whole web.

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Cock fighting should be banned, there are lots of unfortunate events happened  in cock fighting arenas trough out the country also most people go to cockpit arenas are average persons and common labourers. Instead of using the money for their family needs they are more tempted to gamble.

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Cock fighting should be banned, there are lots of unfortunate events happened  in cock fighting arenas trough out the country also most people go to cockpit arenas are average persons and common labourers. Instead of using the money for their family needs they are more tempted to gamble.
Some of them were too focus on feeding their cock to fight that they forget about their family due to these addiction in betting as well fighting their cock. It's sad that the officer who is only doing his job got to experience this due to the illegal casino or arena operation, it's not just illegal but also produces crowd that is not following social distancing this time of Covid. The government should be stricter in allowing these games to happen again.

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October 30, 2020, 09:01:12 PM
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Warning is not enough to the offender since even if you warn them they will just monitor the cops and play once they are out on the vicinity that's why there are surprise raids since even if there's a pandemic the illegal cock fighting still going on secluded places or slum areas.


They should be given a lesson and this is by filing a charges and putting them in prison because they are violating a lot of laws about quarantine, once they put these violators in prison  many will learned their lesson, it's time to be strict on this matters now that there is a policeman that's been killed.

Not only that there were no timely backup and even the officers were not well educated regarding the first aid . This way very easily preventable.


First of all:
 This is animal abuse, it should be banned in the first place. Even if people are doing it illegally one should inform the police in advance.
Now secondly:
 If the femoral artery was cut why weren't other officers trained well enough to just use compression to stop bleeding, literally! This is horrible.
Now thirdly:
Please refrain for any such activities, it is horrible and should be banned 🚫 forever using better strategies and making sure that these people are interrogated well enough to find the whole web.



Cockfighting has already been in their culture so you can't eradicate this game. There are some legal cockfights also, but this one definitely was illegally held. Now, I can't also fathom why the officer bled to death without any help? This should have been stopped even at the site of accident. No one, just literally no one knows basic first aid? Even police personnel undergoes first aid training. So I don't really know why this unfortunate situation happened?
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Well aware about that "tari" or some sharp blade that needs to be worn by a cock for the fight and this is where things do becomes excited and this had been known for decades
on this kind of gambling.Thing here is that they have done it on a very bad situation where crowd shouldnt really be tolerated due to corona virus but those organizers were just
to greedy and decide not to follow up those protocols.In result? its just right for them to be jailed or have some serious amount of fine.Its just sad that one of the
police out there had wasted up his life just because of this illegal gambling operation. Animals shouldnt really be blamed of though because its just natural that they would move
out. The police hadnt just be too careful with those sharp blades.

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