primedice and stake dont show you your profit stats, its a trick to mak u loose

[RichGang]

before now primedice and stake showed your your profit or loss  stats, now u have to contact the support to get that info.
i find this scam-my. i see no reason why a gambling sit should hit a players stat from the player without his consent.
this is more of mind fucking, they dont let you know if you are loosing so much so you quit gambling or if you are winning.
the fact that no one s questioning this baffles me.
eddie, stunna and anyone else running the site needs to work on their transparency.
for now, i see this as a scam to lure players to bet more.
lets say u are winning 0.2btc, they might tell u u are loosing 0.1btc and u will be lured and tempted to play more and recover it, that way u increase your chances of loosing.

TO THOSE OF YOU THAT DONT READ BUT JUMP TO ASK ME TO CONTACT SUPPORT. SOMEONE IN THE COMMENT CONTACTED SUPPORT AND THEY GAVE NO  GOOD REASON FOR THIS

[romero121]

before now primedice and stake showed your your profit or loss  stats, now u have to contact the support to get that info.
i find this scam-my. i see no reason why a gambling sit should hit a players stat from the player without his consent.
this is more of mind fucking, they dont let you know if you are loosing so much so you quit gambling or if you are winning.
the fact that no one s questioning this baffles me.
eddie, stunna and anyone else running the site needs to work on their transparency.
for now, i see this as a scam to lure players to bet more.
lets say u are winning 0.2btc, they might tell u u are loosing 0.1btc and u will be lured and tempted to play more and recover it, that way u increase your chances of loosing.

Every gambler is allocated with support members who are always available to provide whatever the information you request associated with your account. Earlier the stats can be seen on the profile itself, now it's been removed. Just for this reason you can't term a reputed gambling site to be a scam. If the support members haven't responded then I can agree on your statement. They've got attractive bonus and other updates to attract the gamblers. What you state has never been an issue till date.

[delfastTions]

From the point of view of psychology and human behavior, decision-making and internal reasoning for decision-making, the lack of the necessary information often prompts to make rash and wrong decisions.
 Lack of access to personal information or restrictions and difficulties in such access, of course, create psychological prerequisites for false motivation.  From this point of view, any restriction of access to statistics erases from the player's memory a part of his loss, and vice versa makes him remember about winning.  And, yes, this is an additional motivation to increase activity.  
This is how it works.  
But this is all outside the field of jurisdiction and concerns only the moral and ethical attitudes of the devs.

[MI6]

There might be a reason that they hide it, just not quite sure if they intentionally hide it or not but that doesn't mean it's a form of scam. Also I think this thread belongs to scam accusations.

[Bitinity]

I see it as a funny accusation to be honest, why they need to tell you a lie when you ask your gambling stats? To make you gambling more as what you think? I do not think Stake is that bad to tell you a lie about your own stats, if they do it means that they are risking their reputation that they gained for years. Do you think it is worth for them to do so? You as a gambler should know your own limit, dont gamble more because your stats is not good. If you think this is as scammy, you will say the same even if you can see your own stats without asking to the support because you may say that your stats is not as it should be or in other words, you may accuse them providing wrong stats. Come on dude, your reason does not make senses at all. You are the one responsible for your own gambling activity, if you do not want to lose more and more then simply create your own gambling stats. You can create a spreadsheet of your own gambling activity if you do not trust the stats provided by the casino. Calculate your own winning and losing so you wont play over your own limit.

[Cryptobillionaire]

appart from delfastTions all the people that posted above are just plain ass delusional  or paid to promote stake and primedice.
i have complained about this before and they never responded. why will a site hide the most important info of a player and u call them legit?
and yes there is a high possibiity of them not giving u your exact stats so u can play more  and loose. if they cant explain why the stats are hidden then its a scam until proven other wise

[RichGang]

before now primedice and stake showed your your profit or loss  stats, now u have to contact the support to get that info.
i find this scam-my. i see no reason why a gambling sit should hit a players stat from the player without his consent.
this is more of mind fucking, they dont let you know if you are loosing so much so you quit gambling or if you are winning.
the fact that no one s questioning this baffles me.
eddie, stunna and anyone else running the site needs to work on their transparency.
for now, i see this as a scam to lure players to bet more.
lets say u are winning 0.2btc, they might tell u u are loosing 0.1btc and u will be lured and tempted to play more and recover it, that way u increase your chances of loosing.

Every gambler is allocated with support members who are always available to provide whatever the information you request associated with your account. Earlier the stats can be seen on the profile itself, now it's been removed. Just for this reason you can't term a reputed gambling site to be a scam. If the support members haven't responded then I can agree on your statement. They've got attractive bonus and other updates to attract the gamblers. What you state has never been an issue till date.

what makes them reputed? can u just ht the point i am making and stop ass licking these guys? as a gambler, we are entitled to see our stats, for them not to be showing it means they have a motive for behind the hidden stats.
my stats is my property, i have the right to know what it is. for now, i still stand on my point that this is a form of scam.
as for reputation, i posted about betking being a scam and people like u bashed me that they are very reputable. in the end, they ran away with peoples investments.
stop ass licking and see things as they are.

[Kelvinid]

I suggest you ask them why they hide those things. I know that their support team will glad to give clarification and doubts. Just give them time to reply or make a follow-up.

Well, I understand that you want transaparency but the thing is not necessary for me at all. Besides, if you have an account on their site you can simply take a glimpse at you dashboard, tracing back to your bet to see if you won or just loss because I believe it was been recorded as a form of transaction history.

[RichGang]

I suggest you ask them why they hide those things. I know that their support team will glad to give clarification and doubts. Just give them time to reply or make a follow-up.

Well, I understand that you want transaparency but the thing is not necessary for me at all. Besides, if you have an account on their site you can simply take a glimpse at you dashboard, tracing back to your bet to see if you won or just loss because I believe it was been recorded as a form of transaction history.

what if i have close to a million bets n a session, how do i trace back all the bets? is that not punishment?

[Cryptobillionaire]

I suggest you ask them why they hide those things. I know that their support team will glad to give clarification and doubts. Just give them time to reply or make a follow-up.

Well, I understand that you want transaparency but the thing is not necessary for me at all. Besides, if you have an account on their site you can simply take a glimpse at you dashboard, tracing back to your bet to see if you won or just loss because I believe it was been recorded as a form of transaction history.

i just asked and the reply they gave made no sense at all. they wont even tell me what my monthly crypto stats was.

[ultrloa]

before now primedice and stake showed your your profit or loss  stats, now u have to contact the support to get that info.
i find this scam-my. i see no reason why a gambling sit should hit a players stat from the player without his consent.
this is more of mind fucking, they dont let you know if you are loosing so much so you quit gambling or if you are winning.
the fact that no one s questioning this baffles me.
eddie, stunna and anyone else running the site needs to work on their transparency.
for now, i see this as a scam to lure players to bet more.
lets say u are winning 0.2btc, they might tell u u are loosing 0.1btc and u will be lured and tempted to play more and recover it, that way u increase your chances of loosing.

Most provably there are reason why they do that and best to get a answer to there support so that you will get an accurate answer unto this queries and yu cannot call a casino as scam for that matters. Maybe if you don't like it better not to play since it's not hassle play if you have doubts in certain casino's here.

Also maybe best to became open minded and absorb what they answer to you if you already ask about this unto them if you still don't understand better ask again since they are the one who can clarify this things.

[ronaldo40]

you might be right with your speculation they might be a tactic that would let the player play more I think accusing them as a scam is inappropriate if that is your basis. i'm not quite sure if i played on those already but for me it's not a big deal if i don't see such things but i think they should publicized it for the peace of mind of players.

[panjul07]

If not showing player's stats is a form of scam, means that there are so many casinos are scams because there are many casinos where players do not even has the chance to know their stats.
Are you trying to tell us that all sites like that as scam? If so, then why do you focus on Stake and Primedice only?
I do not understand the logic you have for this accusation.
Lets say if it is really happening on any sites where they give you wrong information about your stats which makes you force yourself try to get a better stats but you lose more.
In this case you cant blame the site because you get more loses, because it is your own fault as you force yourself to gamble more.
All in all, looking at your own gambling stats can be something good and bad at the same time.
It is good when see it as a way to control your gambling activity better but it is bad if the stats makes you play out of your own control.

[RichGang]

If not showing player's stats is a form of scam, means that there are so many casinos are scams because there are many casinos where players do not even has the chance to know their stats.
Are you trying to tell us that all sites like that as scam? If so, then why do you focus on Stake and Primedice only?
I do not understand the logic you have for this accusation.
Lets say if it is really happening on any sites where they give you wrong information about your stats which makes you force yourself try to get a better stats but you lose more.
In this case you cant blame the site because you get more loses, because it is your own fault as you force yourself to gamble more.
All in all, looking at your own gambling stats can be something good and bad at the same time.
It is good when see it as a way to control your gambling activity better but it is bad if the stats makes you play out of your own control.

most of u here sound like u are paid to come type trash here. tell me which acclaimed top casino site hides stats from players. is it bitsler?  or fortune jack?

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think it is a problem that can be solved quickly, maybe they are implementing a new type of control for statistics, these platforms have an impeccable reputation, both stunna and eddie are not going to do this type of act to harm their customers, maybe Wait a bit and they will give you a good report of your statistics.

[Pmalek]

I just spoke with a member of their customer support team regarding this as I was curios as well. They said they removed the profit/loss information because the stats were not accurate according to him. Data such as rakeback and race wins wasn't reflected apparently. He also said players can contact the support anytime they want to view their records. Not the optimal solution, but that's how it is now.   

[XZERO1]

I just spoke with a member of their customer support team regarding this as I was curios as well. They said they removed the profit/loss information because the stats were not accurate according to him. Data such as rakeback and race wins wasn't reflected apparently. He also said players can contact the support anytime they want to view their records. Not the optimal solution, but that's how it is now.  

So they're not going to have stats at all for now at least, I wouldn't say just because they're not showing profit/loss stats they are definitely trying to pull something here but I agree with OP that they should be transparent and have some sort of a profit and loss stats for their users to see where they stand in terms of profit once in a while, I certainly prefer to have access to my betting profit statistics at all times even if it is not that accurate instead of having to contact their support to get those stats every single time.

P.S. This topic probably should be moved to "Gambling Discussion" section.

[dothebeats]

Perhaps they are just working on the stats in the mean time that's why they don't display it? I don't see it as a scammy practice really, but may be unethical since you should be transparent to your players on their stats to know how much they already spent or how exactly they are faring against your site. For the side of the players though, they should know themselves whether they are playing too much and losing too much. If you are living on an average paycheck, you should know this since there's only little money to play with and most of the time it goes to your expenses and savings.

I just spoke with a member of their customer support team regarding this as I was curios as well. They said they removed the profit/loss information because the stats were not accurate according to him. Data such as rakeback and race wins wasn't reflected apparently. He also said players can contact the support anytime they want to view their records. Not the optimal solution, but that's how it is now.   

Kinda understand this sentiment since it's really hard to keep a database of such stats for years. Also take into account the number of unique players to have visited and played in the site since its inception, together with the duplicates before the one account per person rule was imposed. I still think that they can just make a 2-yr history max for all players and it wouldn't be a strain for the database and also to their system, and inaccuracies will also be avoided given how narrow the data set would be.

[rationalgene]

Perhaps they are just working on the stats in the mean time that's why they don't display it? I don't see it as a scammy practice really, but may be unethical since you should be transparent to your players on their stats to know how much they already spent or how exactly they are faring against your site. For the side of the players though, they should know themselves whether they are playing too much and losing too much. If you are living on an average paycheck, you should know this since there's only little money to play with and most of the time it goes to your expenses and savings.

I just spoke with a member of their customer support team regarding this as I was curios as well. They said they removed the profit/loss information because the stats were not accurate according to him. Data such as rakeback and race wins wasn't reflected apparently. He also said players can contact the support anytime they want to view their records. Not the optimal solution, but that's how it is now.   

Kinda understand this sentiment since it's really hard to keep a database of such stats for years. Also take into account the number of unique players to have visited and played in the site since its inception, together with the duplicates before the one account per person rule was imposed. I still think that they can just make a 2-yr history max for all players and it wouldn't be a strain for the database and also to their system, and inaccuracies will also be avoided given how narrow the data set would be.

bitsler, fortune jack and many others are also old and they still show players their stats. there is no justifiable reason to hid a players stats

[Haunebu]

Calling reputed sites like Stake and Primedice scams by creating new threads and spreading hate against them on their ANN threads without any tangible evidence is pointless and senseless op.

Both these sites made a wrong move by hiding player statistics which is the only part in your statement that makes sense.

They need to resolve this issue asap since this isn't a pro consumer move. Honestly, they should work on resolving their issues like laggy performance etc instead of creating new issues.