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October 30, 2020, 04:29:35 PM |
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For me, withdrawals and deposits also disappeared in the transaction history, I dont know why.
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October 30, 2020, 04:34:45 PM |
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Op, I agree with you that stats are important and help to make decisions as well as fulfill the curiosity if knowing whether you are winning or losing overall. However, not displaying the stats is not illegal, and does not mean a casino is scamming people. Why not make it as a suggestion to return the stats, explain the benefits for players and gather people who are in favour? I think making it a friendly reasonable suggestion would be more effective than accusing a solid team of scamming people.
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RichGang (OP)
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October 30, 2020, 04:38:51 PM |
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Calling reputed sites like Stake and Primedice scams by creating new threads and spreading hate against them on their ANN threads without any tangible evidence is pointless and senseless op.
Both these sites made a wrong move by hiding player statistics which is the only part in your statement that makes sense.
They need to resolve this issue asap since this isn't a pro consumer move. Honestly, they should work on resolving their issues like laggy performance etc instead of creating new issues.
stop this ass licking man. these is how u guys scream reputable when i called out dean and betking and people like u made them run with peoples money. you are seeing something that tells bad about a site and u are saying because they are reputable i should not call them out then they do shitt? why will a site hide important info about a player and make it only visible to the admin? dont i have the right to see an instant update of my stats? i do not have issues with the speed. i am a mauual player. if you have issues with speed, contact them or open a thread for that. if you got nothing reasonable to say, just avoid the thread. |
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RichGang (OP)
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October 30, 2020, 04:40:05 PM |
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For me, withdrawals and deposits also disappeared in the transaction history, I dont know why.
all these are tricks to make u loose focus and loose more cash. why will they remove withdrawals and deposit tab? does that affect the bonus too? |
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RichGang (OP)
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October 30, 2020, 04:43:03 PM |
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Op, I agree with you that stats are important and help to make decisions as well as fulfill the curiosity if knowing whether you are winning or losing overall. However, not displaying the stats is not illegal, and does not mean a casino is scamming people. Why not make it as a suggestion to return the stats, explain the benefits for players and gather people who are in favour? I think making it a friendly reasonable suggestion would be more effective than accusing a solid team of scamming people.
A scam is a deceptive scheme or trick used to cheat someone out of something, especially money.now tell me how this is not a scam if i get to loose money as a result of this deception. you think scam is only when someone runs away with your money? |
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blockman
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October 30, 2020, 08:45:17 PM |
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Hiding stats doesn't literally mean that they are a scam. Scamming means that they're taking money from you without anything in return. But in the case of hiding the stats but you can even ask them to get that info, that's not a scam. You have the option to do so but if they don't give you an option to know those stats, you sure will be pissed off by that. You, as a customer or probably a loyal user of that casino, they will hear your concern not unless they are firm with their decision and there must be some internal reasons why they do that. Stunna/Micro, they've been around here for a long time and respected by most people that knew them because they are real to their business. Your concern is a form of dissatisfaction from the change that they've made but they have given you the solution by asking them.
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Haunebu
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October 31, 2020, 05:46:56 PM |
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Hiding stats doesn't literally mean that they are a scam. Scamming means that they're taking money from you without anything in return. But in the case of hiding the stats but you can even ask them to get that info, that's not a scam. You have the option to do so but if they don't give you an option to know those stats, you sure will be pissed off by that.
It's pointless trying to argue with op since everyone can clearly see that he is simply barking without proper reasoning. This guy clearly needs to get his head checked. Anyone with a half decent brain knows how legitimate Stake and Primedice are. They have made many mistakes and I notice issues on their sites regularly, but that is completely normal and doesn't indicate them scamming people or anything. |
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RichGang (OP)
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October 31, 2020, 08:15:02 PM |
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Hiding stats doesn't literally mean that they are a scam. Scamming means that they're taking money from you without anything in return. But in the case of hiding the stats but you can even ask them to get that info, that's not a scam. You have the option to do so but if they don't give you an option to know those stats, you sure will be pissed off by that.
It's pointless trying to argue with op since everyone can clearly see that he is simply barking without proper reasoning. This guy clearly needs to get his head checked. Anyone with a half decent brain knows how legitimate Stake and Primedice are. They have made many mistakes and I notice issues on their sites regularly, but that is completely normal and doesn't indicate them scamming people or anything. the fact that u still came here to type your trash on ops thread is clear proof that your brain is filled with poop  |
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nakamura12
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October 31, 2020, 08:45:39 PM |
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When you mentioned about scam, it is not all about the stats being hidden or shown. The important thing is you can withdraw and deposit without issues or problems and they don't steal your money. I'm sure they have a reason why they hide the stats. You can ask their customer support or one of their team member why the stats is hidden.
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November 01, 2020, 01:32:38 AM |
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~snip
You can ask their customer support or one of their team member why the stats is hidden.
As stated on OP, there was someone who ask that to their support and they answered they can't give the data. i just asked and the reply they gave made no sense at all. they wont even tell me what my monthly crypto stats was.  
i very doubt this is scam (they have been on here since years), but just wanna know what is the real reason of this |
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Yogee
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November 01, 2020, 05:52:06 AM |
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I just spoke with a member of their customer support team regarding this as I was curios as well. They said they removed the profit/loss information because the stats were not accurate according to him. Data such as rakeback and race wins wasn't reflected apparently. He also said players can contact the support anytime they want to view their records. Not the optimal solution, but that's how it is now.
Did you asked if they plan to fix the issue and bring that feature back? It would be a waste of time for both players and support in the long run if this isn't fixed. Their response to personally contact them as a temporary solution looks good but it looks like they actually don't have the correct data judging from Cryptobillionaire's comment https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285404.msg55483944#msg55483944 [see screenshots] ..... I'm sure they have a reason why they hide the stats. You can ask their customer support or one of their team member why the stats is hidden.
Read Pmalek's comment above. |
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nakamura12
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November 01, 2020, 06:35:32 AM |
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~snip~
I would not rather check my stats if the stats is not visible to players. Well, it's up to op what op wants. It's either he withdraw and gamble on other site that shows the stats or stay as it is and wait for them to fix the issue about stats. If I were to stay, I would not bother with the stats if it is not accurate. |
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begau
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November 01, 2020, 08:19:32 AM |
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For me, withdrawals and deposits also disappeared in the transaction history, I dont know why.
all these are tricks to make u loose focus and loose more cash. why will they remove withdrawals and deposit tab? does that affect the bonus too? Do you contact their support? They can update or change the site structure, don't be too hasty to conclude an unspecified issue. I have known them for a long time and many times other people say they have problems but everything is fine after that. |
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November 01, 2020, 10:39:31 AM |
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So they're not going to have stats at all for now at least, I wouldn't say just because they're not showing profit/loss stats they are definitely trying to pull something here but I agree with OP that they should be transparent and have some sort of a profit and loss stats for their users to see where they stand in terms of profit once in a while, I certainly prefer to have access to my betting profit statistics at all times even if it is not that accurate instead of having to contact their support to get those stats every single time.
P.S. This topic probably should be moved to "Gambling Discussion" section.
having inaccurate stat could lead to problems(not sure what but it could). the gambling site did the right thing by removing the profit stat but they should have informed and explained to their gamblers about the inaccurate profit stats and their plans of removing it at the moment before finally removing the feature on their website. |
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November 01, 2020, 12:29:38 PM |
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lets say u are winning 0.2btc, they might tell u u are loosing 0.1btc and u will be lured and tempted to play more and recover it, that way u increase your chances of loosing.
For example, I don't look my full stats so often, so I will not get tempted to recover that lost amount! Sometimes running for recovery can only lead you to more loses, that's right, so I don't look so far in the past, I play for today. If I am good I am good, and I gamble on more than one site, so keeping track of all that would be just pain in the ass, I like to play and I like when I win, and I never gamble to recover what I lost! Maybe for some professionals stats are important, and they pay attention on that more than others. In that case just find a site where they offer that, there's no need to call one scam- my because they don't have something you would like them to have! Just move on...find the place that suits your standards! |
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November 01, 2020, 04:09:52 PM |
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Transparency, is something we believe in   |
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November 01, 2020, 05:48:22 PM |
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Transparency, is something we believe in
I know your casino if fair and operating since a long time but to be honest these threads are created just to hurt the reputation of primedice and stake which is really something I was hoping people won't appreciate and I request you all to avoid posting here because it only encourages the trolls more. If you don't know your stats you can always message support team and they will give you the numbers so I don't know what all the fuss is about here and yeah having profit and loss stats is good because it helps you keep in check how much you have lose but now showing it to the user in profile doesn't tag them as cheaters. I was betting on stake on UFC and got some free bonus just because the fighter won via KO so I mean why would they even scam if they are giving out such promotions on the other hand. |
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November 01, 2020, 08:04:29 PM |
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Statistics is a topic that for many is synonymous with transparency, but when observing and seeing the reputation of the site it is not logical to call it a scam, they already said that if you request your statistics they will offer them to you.
Whether they want to remove it or not, is the site's decision. Ask for your stats, I'm sure they don't cheat.
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November 01, 2020, 10:57:15 PM |
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I'm not sure you can get about asking your stats to them everytime you want. I mean they have lot of user everyday, how can they reply all user who want to know about their stats in everyday?
Maybe we just need to maintain our balance by ourself to see whether we are in profit or not (Remember how much balance we have before gamble, during gamble and after gamble)
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Johnyz
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November 01, 2020, 11:18:33 PM |
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Statistics is a topic that for many is synonymous with transparency, but when observing and seeing the reputation of the site it is not logical to call it a scam, they already said that if you request your statistics they will offer them to you.
Whether they want to remove it or not, is the site's decision. Ask for your stats, I'm sure they don't cheat.
That’s right and I’m sure the site updated you with regards to this changes and if you requested for it, then’ll give it to you in time but not a scam at all. If you are not ok with these terms and conditions you can just leave the site easily and look for the best site that can satisfy you, the house will always encourage us to bet more because its their business so if you have a weak emotion and have no plan in gambling at all, then its your fault if you fall on this. |
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