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October 30, 2020, 12:08:07 PM
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Iran Changes Law to Use Bitcoin For Imports
https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/10/29/iran-changes-law-to-use-bitcoin-for-imports

"Iran has become the first country in the world to use cryptocurrencies at a state level for value exchange.

The Iranian Cabinet has amended legislation to redirect cryptos into the Central Bank of Iran’s funding mechanisms for imports, according to a Saturday report by the official IRNA news agency.

“The miners are supposed to supply the original cryptocurrency directly and within the authorized limit to the channels introduced by the CBI,” said the report by CBI and the Ministry of Energy.
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Thanks to their policy, many countries will soon switch to mutual settlements through bitcoins Smiley


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October 30, 2020, 01:01:15 PM
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I am not a fan of the Iranian government (or of any other government). Despite that, this is very significant news.

You can be absolutely sure that, in reality, the Iranian government have been doing this for quite some time already. There's no way they would make such an announcement without becoming au fait with the system, and develop their own system around it to stop government employees from pocketing BTC for themselves (or at least not the "wrong" government figures, lol Cheesy)

Clearly, trade between Iran and other embattled oil-based regimes (Venezuela, Nigeria, Russia etc) will ensue. The real joke is that the US will try (at least a couple times) to sanction the trading partner, and it will not make the slightest difference.

And if other states take the opportunity to sell off USD denominated bonds (China particularly), any attempt at using military power to comply cannot be sustained.

tl;dr: Checkmate in 5 moves or less.

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October 30, 2020, 01:22:08 PM
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I am not sure what kind of experiment they are doing since 2018 but use of crypto for imports in collaboration with the miners is just indigestible to me?

The article doesn’t elaborates much about the process except the relationship between limits of usage based on subsidised energy consumption.

Only one conclusion here is: They will not go for full fledge use of mining since for the operations of import which is 24*7 activity and Iranian being small country may not be able to supply that kinda electricity for this operation alone.

Can someone redirect to elaborative article associated with this? It would be interesting to see how exactly this import gonna work in “real time”.?
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October 30, 2020, 02:17:51 PM
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I am not a fan of the Iranian government (or of any other government). Despite that, this is very significant news.
You can be absolutely sure that, in reality, the Iranian government have been doing this for quite some time already. There's no way they would
I cannot disclose the source but I can confirm you they are exploring this since 2018. The very first use case for them was about tuition fees. Two universities were involved if recall it correctly. It's been a while I don't get any news by my Iranian friend but I guess I should congratulate him.
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October 30, 2020, 02:58:05 PM
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I think the most important thing is to take the first step.

It says here that the cost of electricity in Iran is $ 0.006 per kilowatt-hour.

https://bitnovosti.com/2018/12/13/nizkie-tarify-na-elektroenergiyu-v-irane-privlekayut-majnerov-i-kriptoinvestorov/
Iran has huge energy resources, and if they launch their mining program, then we will get a new leader.


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October 30, 2020, 03:04:16 PM
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I'm glad they decided to turn to Bitcoin rather than create their own centralised regulated cryptocurrency. The latter was already attempted in Venezuela, and it did not go well with their coin becoming a joke. Bitcoin us a risky choice, so I'm interested in how it will work out. I hope this use case will be successful. In this case, Bitcoin is likely to be taken more seriously. But I would be more happy if a more open-minded democratic country would try it.

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October 30, 2020, 03:10:15 PM
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Can someone redirect to elaborative article associated with this? It would be interesting to see how exactly this import gonna work in “real time”.?

This seems to be the original source, but you'll have to translate it:

https://www.isna.ir/news/99080301359/%DB%8C%DA%A9-%D8%AA%D8%B5%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%85-%D8%AC%D8%AF%DB%8C%D8%AF-%D8%A8%D8%B1%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%AE%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AC-%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%B2-%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B2

There are Arabic characters in the link so I'm not sure if it will work for everyone properly.

Either way, from my understanding, they'll be subsidizing electricity for the miners, and how much the miners are mandated to sell depends on how much electricity they received. To put it simply, they're paying miners with electricity as part of an actual national policy.

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October 30, 2020, 03:22:29 PM
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Venezuela has allegedly also been doing this for quite some time now although not at state level and without a statutory law in place. Iran are taking a bold step and this could present another use case for Bitcoin, countries battling under sanctions placed on them by sovereign states like the U.S can use Bitcoin as a means to evade such "intensity pressure".

This is a very significant news in my opinion, Bitcoin being involved in global trade pushes adoption and popularity, it could however have its bad effects as some governments attempt to impose regulatory laws to prevent its usage.

Can someone redirect to elaborative article associated with this? It would be interesting to see how exactly this import gonna work in “real time”.?
I found this a bit explanatory - https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/10/24/637130/Iran-digital-currency-cryptocurrencies-imports-CBI
And here is a personal take on the matter from Marty Bent, although it focuses more on the implications than the process - https://tftc.io/martys-bent/issue-856/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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October 30, 2020, 04:38:56 PM
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Iran is trying different methods to break the embargo. In my opinion, using Bitcoin like this way can affect Bitcoin badly. We can even see governments start banning Bitcoin. I hope we don't see this kind of things happen.
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October 30, 2020, 11:18:03 PM
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"Iran has become the first country in the world to use cryptocurrencies at a state level for value exchange.

The Iranian Cabinet has amended legislation to redirect cryptos into the Central Bank of Iran’s funding mechanisms for imports, according to a Saturday report by the official IRNA news agency.
I was expecting this from a long time, bitcoin is all about freedom and these countries which are restricted by other countries in terms of trade and commerce will be making use of this situation, i am expecting China, Russia and North Korea using it to overcome the restrictions imposed upon them but Iran becoming the first nation to announce that Wink .

“The miners are supposed to supply the original cryptocurrency directly and within the authorized limit to the channels introduced by the CBI,” said the report by CBI and the Ministry of Energy.
This is definitely first as a government is directly involving in purchasing the coins directly from the miners.

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October 31, 2020, 02:56:22 AM
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I'm glad they decided to turn to Bitcoin rather than create their own centralised regulated cryptocurrency. The latter was already attempted in Venezuela, and it did not go well with their coin becoming a joke. Bitcoin us a risky choice, so I'm interested in how it will work out. I hope this use case will be successful. In this case, Bitcoin is likely to be taken more seriously. But I would be more happy if a more open-minded democratic country would try it.
It is definitely a risky choice considering that the volatility of Bitcoin is swaying in unexpected ways, I do not think that they have thought this through. This is something new though, and hopefully if this breaks through and other country see that it works, hopefully they will follow the footsteps. Most democratic country will not be open to this despite being democratic, in my country, they do not care about this kind of thing. They worry more about losing their power over the masses, I am speaking only about my country and I do not know if other democratic country considered the potential of bitcoin.
The scary thing about this is that Iran might continue their nuclear program that the US has been preventing because they were tagged by US government as rogue nation. I think the wounds of Soleimani's death is still fresh.

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October 31, 2020, 03:25:15 AM
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The USA is stepping on its own rake.
Thanks to their policy, many countries will soon switch to mutual settlements through bitcoins Smiley


I see this same outcome. The US has crippled economies in places such as Cuba and Venezuela and cryptocurrency is the most obvious way to bypass those sanctions. As America loses more influence more nations will find it easier to circumvent restrictions using Bitcoin and other decentralized methods where they are not able to impose their will.

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October 31, 2020, 04:02:05 AM
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To me it looks like the Iranian regime is grasping at straws. Using Bitcoin won't allow them to circumvent sanctions, which seems to be their goal, because the point of sanctions is to prevent your own companies and companies of your allies from trading with the target of sanctions. Western companies that would try to deal with Iran through Bitcoin would have to somehow explain to auditors where do bitcoins go/come from, so it just becomes a question of money laundering, and I seriously doubt that many would want to risk doing that. And as for trading between Iran and other rogue nations - who cares, sanctions or not, they were always be able to do that. Bitcoin brings nothing new here.
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October 31, 2020, 04:24:09 AM
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Dollar has been under a lot of pressure to stop being the main currency in the intermediation of international transactions. There is a good war  between countries like RUssia, USA, China, Europe. The problem is that in general the dispute is between dollars and other state currencies. Bitcoin is certainly an excellent option for those who do not have such a strong national currency and do not want to use the dollar. Bitcoin is freedom.
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October 31, 2020, 06:21:51 AM
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I am not a fan of the Iranian government (or of any other government). Despite that, this is very significant news.


Bitcoin simply found its way into another inefficient market, with the inefficiency caused by U.S. sanctions, to make it more efficient, and more workable. Like the dark markets. Cool

North Korea next.

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October 31, 2020, 08:31:17 AM
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I am not a fan of the Iranian government (or of any other government). Despite that, this is very significant news.


Bitcoin simply found its way into another inefficient market, with the inefficiency caused by U.S. sanctions, to make it more efficient, and more workable. Like the dark markets. Cool

North Korea next.
This may sound stupid though I believe this news might spark serious geopolitical consequences. Iran and N. Korea embracing bitcoin for good might make uncle Sam definitely crazy. I am only concerned about any possible retaliation, but this is a clear win for bitcoin.
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November 01, 2020, 11:54:30 AM
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Bitcoin is definetly getting better and better by the day, i have noticed a very huge increase in the number of bitcoin users. it will keep on growing more and more even though i had been here for a while and I am really glad about that there seems to be more people who will be looking forward to getting their hands on bitcoin soon enough. Pretty soon all banks will accept bitcoin a s a digital currency or they will come up with their own digital currency. I see myself using bitcoin for as long as I can. The bitcoin mining business and blockchain are definitely worth the time.
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November 01, 2020, 03:17:13 PM
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Sanctions and embargoes placed on Iran by some world powers has battered Iranian economy, in bid to reposition it they resorted to Bitcoin for import this is a welcome development at least decentralized feature of Bitcoin can't be manipulated by the world power to punish Iranian, this singular act of adoption of Bitcoin for import will be a sign of relief to them thus a plus for the growth and development of Bitcoin.

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November 01, 2020, 10:51:21 PM
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Iran is trying different methods to break the embargo. In my opinion, using Bitcoin like this way can affect Bitcoin badly. We can even see governments start banning Bitcoin. I hope we don't see this kind of things happen.

How can you sure about this? bitcoin is not even getting bounded with any regulation, especially from US. All entities are able using bitcoin for various things. as long as it will not be related to criminal activity and it will not bring bad impacts for bitcoin.

The only possible thing if we will see US will put more strict regulation for bitcoin but i think this will not happen shortly. The governments have started to change their mind again. More major companies have bought bitcoin to be their portfolios and that's proven bitcoin needs the time to prove the reliability of bitcoin itself especially for the countries.  


Bitcoin is the only way for iran to avoid the sanction and there's no other way than this. I hope that Iranians will not be banned again to trade bitcoin too.

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November 02, 2020, 06:09:34 AM
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I am happy iran has import bitcoin by law.it is must to increase their revenue to see the situation now.because iran government is face banning trade on international leval.so l think it'll be become profitable for country.
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