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Question: Sent btc with high fee but no confirms, not credited in gambling site and you want to bet on your favorite match anyhow as you think you will win it. What will you do?
I will just wait and watch, that is all I can do. 😕 - 18 (42.9%)
I can't wait at all, I will ask a mining firm to help me as I can pay more fee. - 4 (9.5%)
I will go to the gambling website's support staff and ask them to credit my coins and let me play. - 7 (16.7%)
I will double spend it with higher fee to get the next sent transaction confirmed quick, because I want to gamble at any cost. - 6 (14.3%)
I will increase the fee as my transaction was RBF. - 7 (16.7%)
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October 30, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
Last edit: October 30, 2020, 03:32:34 PM by Saint-loup
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I can't wait at all, I will ask a mining firm to help me as I will pay more fee (applicable on RBF transactions only).
Where have you seen that please? Your transaction doesn't need to be "RBF" for being accelerated. The mining pool just need to include it in the block they are mining.
I would add, it's useless to call a tx accelerator if your transaction is RBF, since you can "accelerate" it yourself...(it's the goal of RBF)

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_accelerator

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October 30, 2020, 03:21:01 PM
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its not a poll but the supposed to be poll are part of the question/title ? im not aware to other sites if they follow some amount of confirmation before they credit the coins but on the site where i play they need 1 confirmation  . its fast  ,  the number of confirmations really matter and can impact the experience of the gambler . if you depo to a gambling site with a high fee and it got stucked that its not normal anymore , why not ask some help from the miners or pay extra if needed since you already pay with a high fee earlier . you can afford them .
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October 30, 2020, 03:32:54 PM
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I never face such issue I usually send or deposit three hours before I bet in case there is a network congestion and I never in a hurry to take a bet, I just wait to confirm or if I really want to play right away I deposit other coins that has lower fees and can confirm fast, or I use an accelerator service, I have done it once and they only ask a tip even a small tip will do.

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October 30, 2020, 03:41:55 PM
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As covfefe says, Replace by Fee. I enable it by default from my Electrum so I'm really never worried if the fee I set is too low. That said, I hardly ever make a casino deposit in a hurry. Have always deposited in advance of when I need to play (which is always 1 sat/byte haha) and then I let it take as long as it needs. Everyone's of course got urgent txs but my gambling money's never been part of that!

You sure you're not being stiffed by "miner accelerator" groups though? I know of only 1 that works (antpool) -- place was awash before with fake accelerators who really only just push your tx...

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October 30, 2020, 04:05:40 PM
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With high fee I wouldn't wait, but I rarely use high fees. I have a problem with two transactions at the moment, I sent 0.003 to one casino and 0.008 to another, with ridiculously low transaction fees, and I wait more than a day! Sometimes they get confirmed fast, but sometimes I wait longer., like now… that's not the problem, I can wait!
Sometimes I get nervous and I try to speed up the transaction using BitAccelerate, ViaBtc..sometimes it works for free, but many times not! Usually I just wait, I train my patience! Smiley
You cannot train your patience when you know your team is gonna win the match as they in advantage to play against 10 men in football for example
And while you waiting for the bitcoin to arrive in your wallet , few minutes later your team score  goal and the odds dropped drastically.
That moment you will feel angry on how the tx fee and tx time takes too much time
That is very annoying moment.
The next day you will switch to use altcoin!

Well you are right about that! There's no argue with your statement here! I wait my deposit for playing slots, and online games like roulette and some card games! I can afford to wait, and my words comes from that point of view! When you need fast deposit and you are short with time, because matches will start soon, and then waiting for deposit to get confirmed can really be painful! For that purposes I always have some ready amount sitting in casinos where you can bet on sports!

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October 30, 2020, 04:10:38 PM
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I can't wait at all, I will ask a mining firm to help me as I will pay more fee (applicable on RBF transactions only).
Where have you seen that please? Your transaction doesn't need to be "RBF" for being accelerated. The mining pool just need to include it in the block they are mining.
I would add, it's useless to call a tx accelerator if your transaction is RBF, since you can "accelerate" it yourself...(it's the goal of RBF)

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_accelerator

Yes, my mistake that I added that part. Even I was confused while writing it, I think I should have added it as another option where the sender of the transaction just needs to increase the fee in RBF to accelerate it. I am going to edit the poll. Smiley



As covfefe says, Replace by Fee. I enable it by default from my Electrum so I'm really never worried if the fee I set is too low. That said, I hardly ever make a casino deposit in a hurry. Have always deposited in advance of when I need to play (which is always 1 sat/byte haha) and then I let it take as long as it needs. Everyone's of course got urgent txs but my gambling money's never been part of that!

That is so good if you have your funds ready in your account in advance, but this thread was made for those gamblers who miss out on the upcoming bets sometimes and accidentally see it the last minute and try to bet on it. Favorite teams or players, haha.  Grin
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October 30, 2020, 04:14:44 PM
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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.
It wasn't hard for me to choose the first option in the poll because I don't have such strong feelings about gambling. I'm never absolutely sure about the bet I'm about to make, and I'm never eager to get so much as to pay crazy fees. Moreover, I usually bet in advance, so this situation when I'd have to pay the fees to get the money asap is unlikely.

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October 30, 2020, 04:51:46 PM
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I can't wait at all, I will ask a mining firm to help me as I will pay more fee (applicable on RBF transactions only).
Where have you seen that please? Your transaction doesn't need to be "RBF" for being accelerated. The mining pool just need to include it in the block they are mining.
I would add, it's useless to call a tx accelerator if your transaction is RBF, since you can "accelerate" it yourself...(it's the goal of RBF)

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_accelerator

Yes, my mistake that I added that part. Even I was confused while writing it, I think I should have added it as another option where the sender of the transaction just needs to increase the fee in RBF to accelerate it. I am going to edit the poll. Smiley
No offence. I was just surprised that no one noticed it before. It seems to show that many people are thinking the same.
So I hope it will help them : if your transaction is RBF flagged you can speed it up yourself without having to call a mining pool for that.
And even if your transaction isn't RBF flagged you can submit it to a tx accelerator.

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October 30, 2020, 04:55:43 PM
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If my transaction is stuck and I aboslutley need to bet on the coming event, the safest and easiest way would be to deposit some other bitcoin with a higher fee (if it's an option). I have done that a few times, sometimes on the same casino while sometimes on other as the odds too change quite easily. So, it would be better to be cautious about fees when you are to start betting immediately.

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October 30, 2020, 05:55:21 PM
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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.
It wasn't hard for me to choose the first option in the poll because I don't have such strong feelings about gambling. I'm never absolutely sure about the bet I'm about to make, and I'm never eager to get so much as to pay crazy fees. Moreover, I usually bet in advance, so this situation when I'd have to pay the fees to get the money asap is unlikely.

That is pretty reasonable thinking and that is how I would do it. But I can understand that some gamblers are so passionate about gambling and eager that they make some unreasonable moves that can even harm them. For them it's very hard to keep cool head. I wonder if they calculate extremely high fees and unconfirmed transactions into gambling loss.

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October 30, 2020, 06:29:38 PM
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No offence. I was just surprised that no one noticed it before. It seems to show that many people are thinking the same.
So I hope it will help them : if your transaction is RBF flagged you can speed it up yourself without having to call a mining pool for that.
And even if your transaction isn't RBF flagged you can submit it to a tx accelerator.

I am not offended and I hope nobody else does.
I think I made everyone confused with it and I apologized for that already. You are correct about RBF and non RBF transactions, but as both of these are of different type, I added both of them as options.
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October 30, 2020, 06:40:11 PM
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Always contact the support whenever you encounter problem as fast as possible so they will be prompt to know that something happens and they can tract it, since once you just wait and time passes by the transactionkeep coming as well we will know how fast their support can handle the problems since if they do it means they can be a good casino we can support with.

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October 30, 2020, 06:41:20 PM
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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.
The topic is very interesting for me that I have faced such a problem a few days ago but it was on an exchange where I submitted all my funds for withdrawal to my another wallet but it was not successful even after 72 hours. I have contacted their support but they can not give me the proper solution yet. Then I got my funds 9 days later. It was too annoying for me to face such a problem. You can't imagine it's feeling without falling into this trap. If it happens in any gambling site and there was exciting gameplay then you may miss it.

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October 30, 2020, 06:47:47 PM
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Sit back, relax and enjoy the show, that is how I looked at it every time I play gambling it is all about entertainment whether I win or lose it is fine with me for I don't take gambling as part of my earning instead as for fun.

If my wager wasn't accepted by the gambling website because of the slow transaction it doesn't matter to me neither I will pay for a higher fee just to get confirmed in my transaction though it might have a little impact and might as well regret it after finding out that supposedly I should win if my wager went through but that is not enough for me and decide to spend more in the transaction fee I just say to myself I guess it is really not for me.

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October 30, 2020, 07:18:08 PM
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 The only solution during these circumstances is to find gambling sites with zero confirmation and sportsbet.io is one such site where they allow you to gamble even with zero confirmation. You need to add that option too as i am sure many will be searching for sites that allow you to gamble despite your coins getting confirmed. Other than that increasing the fees is the only option.
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October 30, 2020, 07:59:13 PM
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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.

If you are really that on a hurry then you can always opt in for increasing its fee for it to be at least confirmed and be credited but if you are a
person who can wait up then you would just let that transaction to confirm but i doubt if you are up into a certain game or important bet then
that would really be a real test out of your patience.If you do have money then most likely you would really make up some step.
If you dont have anymore funds then it sucks when you are just sitting there and go back and forth to check if said transaction at least
get some confirmation to be credited on the platform.

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October 30, 2020, 08:14:52 PM
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I will just wait and watch, that is all I can do. 😕   -
I can't wait at all, I will ask a mining firm to help me as I can pay more fee.   
I will go to the gambling website's support staff and ask them to credit my coins and let me play.
I will double spend it with higher fee to get the next sent transaction confirmed quick, because I want to gamble at any cost.   
I will increase the fee as my transaction was RBF.

-It will be most likely the case if you dont plan to pay for more in fee then you would end up into this option.
-Ask a miner? Finding one will already be a hell of a work.  Cheesy
-Its dumb for you to ask out on something that they arent in control.Theres nothing they can do.
-It wont work.
-This is the only valid way i do saw on where someone can make such action. Increase the fee for faster confirmation.

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October 30, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
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Wait and chill is the most common and logical thing to do. Also using a transaction accelerator could be a help and there are some few accelerators on the internet that is free.

Maybe if you have a match you know that you will bet on it's better to deposit in the casino early so you won't experience a hassle in the process.

I also don't think contacting customer support will help you bring up your deposit instantly, and you will be lucky if the support will reply faster than your transaction.
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October 30, 2020, 08:35:22 PM
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Wait and chill is the most common and logical thing to do. Also using a transaction accelerator could be a help and there are some few accelerators on the internet that is free.

Maybe if you have a match you know that you will bet on it's better to deposit in the casino early so you won't experience a hassle in the process.

I also don't think contacting customer support will help you bring up your deposit instantly, and you will be lucky if the support will reply faster than your transaction.
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LOL this is really on point on bolded part where most sportsbook support do sucks and doesnt even respond immediately and its pointless because this is on blockchain works not theirs.So it isnt really just right to be added up on the option or in poll.Im a man that isnt really a fan on paying up more fees once a transaction had been made, unless if its a big amount then i might do it for faster transaction but most of the time i can really wait up and if i missed a certain bet then just move on and find another one.It really sucks on times like these where delays is common when the network is clogged.
It do really affect your gambling activity because fees are insanely high at the moment.

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October 30, 2020, 08:57:20 PM
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As long as how we consider a fee "as high".

If I really want to push for my bet, I will go whatever the fees. I'm doing gambling in the first place and not to be worried about the fees. It doesn't mean I'm fine at these high fees but if I'm comfortable with my bet, I can surely covered what I'm paying for fees.

But to clear things up, my 100% accurate response will just know once I get to that situation.
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