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Question: Sent btc with high fee but no confirms, not credited in gambling site and you want to bet on your favorite match anyhow as you think you will win it. What will you do?
I will just wait and watch, that is all I can do. 😕 - 18 (42.9%)
I can't wait at all, I will ask a mining firm to help me as I can pay more fee. - 4 (9.5%)
I will go to the gambling website's support staff and ask them to credit my coins and let me play. - 7 (16.7%)
I will double spend it with higher fee to get the next sent transaction confirmed quick, because I want to gamble at any cost. - 6 (14.3%)
I will increase the fee as my transaction was RBF. - 7 (16.7%)
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October 30, 2020, 12:32:54 PM
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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.
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October 30, 2020, 01:16:23 PM
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So the question has many layers into it under one situation. Let me explain what I will do in that situation. It will definitely vary from person to person.

Firstly I will never calculate the network fees manually. It makes room for error so I will let my wallet decide the fee based on network load and priority. If it is done, then there should not be any issues going forward.

Usually a gambling website (or any other website) will wait for 3 confirmations before crediting the amount to your account. If I see it is taking longer than expected, I will have to wait for at least 1 confirmation. Because even support staffs can't do anything if a transaction is unconfirmed.

Once I get 1 confirmation, then I will get in touch with the support staff to credit the amount to my account as a request. Ideally, they can do it based on your previous deposit and withdrawal history. If your conduct is good, the chance is high that they will oblige to your request. But may not help in case you are using that casino for the first time!

Network feehas again started going up in accordance with the price. It's similar to what we have faced during last bull run. I believe it's high time to adopt LN for good!

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October 30, 2020, 01:19:19 PM
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The best option always checked the fee and pending transaction before doing any transaction so maybe option 1, the option 2-4 could make have some problem on your deposit progress of your account on the gambling site.

Because, when I try using RBF on "Roobet" the first TX made my account getting a problem cannot withdrawal even my RBF transaction already confirmed and they need to solved manually to remove the first transaction. That's just my one experience on "Roobet", IDK about other casinos but could be facing the same problem because some casino who have a feature instant deposit.

They will have a policy, the transaction needs to get confirmation before you can withdrawal since you are using RBF and if the first transaction still on your deposit history you can facing the same problem like me.

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October 30, 2020, 01:40:47 PM
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I haven't asked any miner to make my transaction confirmed if it's stuck in the network. Usually, I don't encounter this kind of problem and if I do, I'll just get into the transaction accelerators to make my transaction confirm. I have never done any of those paid accelerators.

But I think if it's necessary, I'll pay the fee to make my TX confirmed if the match is about to start and I have to bet. Nonetheless, I'll wait until it gets confirmed but if it's already too much of the wait, I'll take those actions that I have mentioned.

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October 30, 2020, 01:46:15 PM
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With high fee I wouldn't wait, but I rarely use high fees. I have a problem with two transactions at the moment, I sent 0.003 to one casino and 0.008 to another, with ridiculously low transaction fees, and I wait more than a day! Sometimes they get confirmed fast, but sometimes I wait longer., like now… that's not the problem, I can wait!
Sometimes I get nervous and I try to speed up the transaction using BitAccelerate, ViaBtc..sometimes it works for free, but many times not! Usually I just wait, I train my patience! Smiley

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October 30, 2020, 01:51:12 PM
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Usually a gambling website (or any other website) will wait for 3 confirmations before crediting the amount to your account. If I see it is taking longer than expected, I will have to wait for at least 1 confirmation. Because even support staffs can't do anything if a transaction is unconfirmed.

Once I get 1 confirmation, then I will get in touch with the support staff to credit the amount to my account as a request. Ideally, they can do it based on your previous deposit and withdrawal history. If your conduct is good, the chance is high that they will oblige to your request. But may not help in case you are using that casino for the first time!

Block time remains same no matter the congestion. Blocks will still be produced approximately after every 10 minutes. So if your transaction is included in a block and you got the first confirmation, it's just a matter of approximately 20-30 more minutes to get 3 confirmations. Once two more blocks are produced above the block in which your transaction is included, your transaction gets 3 confirmations. So I don't think anyone should worry and rush to the support staff if their transaction is successfully included in a block. Waiting half an hour more is better than requesting customer support to deposit manually. Tongue

However, in case your transaction is stuck in a mempool and no one is picking it in a block, there isn't much you can do. You can request the website's support staff but I think it would be bad move from the casino owners if they start crediting deposits with 0 confirmations but I have seen casinos making crazier move for customer acquisition & retainment so this might work if you are loyal player on the site. But if that doesn't work, you aren't left with many options except using an altcoin. Almost all the prominent casinos support at least couple of more cryptocurrencies. You can buy those, deposit them and get on with your 'must to make' bet.
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October 30, 2020, 01:54:44 PM
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I have never bothered too much about my transactions: before sending I always make sure that the fee I am going to use allows my tx to be confirmed between 3-6 hours. After hitting send I usually wait. Personally, I have never used RBF or any tx accelerators.
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October 30, 2020, 01:58:44 PM
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How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms.
Title says if you send it with a fee but what you ask here is different or it can also be on other cases ? And what does how far will you go mean ? You cannot go anywhere if you transaction was stuck but all you can do is to remain on the place where you at now , you can do sit and wait for things to settle .

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Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.
I'm not a nerd but fee was my concern too . Everyone care for the fee not just the nerds because fee was still money and fees now are not small because value of btc was rising quickly . if money hasn't arrived ,don't be excited to prepare your bets because that can be disappointing if the money will be super delayed and the match ended up winning .
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October 30, 2020, 01:59:30 PM
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My probable choice is not on the options given. If I am caught in this situation, I would probably just contact one of my friends who is also crypto gambling and kindly ask him to just make a bet on my behalf. This has happened to me a number of times already.

There are times when I am busy, cannot log in, traveling, etc and there is a particular game I forgot betting on. My friends are just a call or text away. But if none of them could make it on my behalf then I'd just forget about it.

If possible, and if you really want to make a bet, physical betting with your friends or workmates could also be done in place of online crypto betting.
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October 30, 2020, 02:09:13 PM
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I've gone as far as using a transaction accelerator. There are a few free of them in the internet. But if you are even in a larger hurry, there are some legit transaction accelerator services provided in the forum by individuals. They take a very small fee. I've used one of them and the transaction went through quickly. If you have enabled replace by fee, you can increase the transaction fees yourself when you are in hurry.
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October 30, 2020, 02:13:00 PM
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If the match I want and I know I'm going to win on, I won't hesitate to transfer my coins to that specific gambling site. Come on, if you know and feel positive about that, why not risk more and believe in what you believed in to do? I think it's better to gamble once you know what you are going into and know the actual match. If not, you might regret it later and wish you have gambled. It's better to risk than to gain nothing doing nothing.

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October 30, 2020, 02:14:00 PM
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With high fee I wouldn't wait, but I rarely use high fees. I have a problem with two transactions at the moment, I sent 0.003 to one casino and 0.008 to another, with ridiculously low transaction fees, and I wait more than a day! Sometimes they get confirmed fast, but sometimes I wait longer., like now… that's not the problem, I can wait!
Sometimes I get nervous and I try to speed up the transaction using BitAccelerate, ViaBtc..sometimes it works for free, but many times not! Usually I just wait, I train my patience! Smiley
You cannot train your patience when you know your team is gonna win the match as they in advantage to play against 10 men in football for example
And while you waiting for the bitcoin to arrive in your wallet , few minutes later your team score  goal and the odds dropped drastically.
That moment you will feel angry on how the tx fee and tx time takes too much time
That is very annoying moment.
The next day you will switch to use altcoin!
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October 30, 2020, 02:27:56 PM
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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.

Option number two and option number four is the best solution for this issue, it happens to me several times the transaction won't confirm and I need to get Bitcoin to my dashboard, I contact a friend in telegram channel who has an existing and active thread on transaction acceleration and I ask him to add my transaction txt to his accelerator and in less than an hour it confirmed, the second option is
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I will double spend it with higher fee to get the next sent transaction confirmed quick, because I want to gamble at any cost.
is also a good option if you think you can win big that day, I seldom use this option because accelerator always solve the issue.


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October 30, 2020, 02:28:01 PM
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I'll just wait honestly. In my years of gambling with btc, bugging the customer support about some things such as confirms wouldn't get you anywhere, as it's not only their platform imposing this kind of rule but also other platforms in order to prevent double-spending. During high volume of transactions within the network and the mempool is clogged for bitcoin, I usually just send my coins to an exchange and trade it to XRP or any other coins that doesn't have this same problem running on their networks currently, and I send amounts that are big enough that it could accommodate my next gambling ventures. Has worked for the past years and I think it would also handle the same situation quite similarly.

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October 30, 2020, 02:28:36 PM
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If the amount is huge with respect to the fees, I'll try to increase the fee using tools. Generally, if I think there's winning possibility in a gambling bet, I would love to pay any fees that is needed to make the transaction go through since I'll be in profit in the end Smiley but if the transaction fee is higher as compared to the transacted amount, then surely I'll just wait, because even if the transaction fee is increased doesn't mean it will get confirmed instantly!
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October 30, 2020, 02:34:57 PM
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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.
If your transaction already included into the block then it will get confirmed in the next few minutes, or else choose the casino which deposit ur funds with zero confirmation itself if RBF function is not enabled. Or else you have no other choices than waiting for your transaction to get confirmed. If you have no time to wait then send another transaction with highest fee to get your bet on time.

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October 30, 2020, 02:35:22 PM
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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.

I prefer sites that accept instant deposits and withdrawals and they deal with all the related problems like mempool etc.I will make you a personal example,I manage a few mining rigs for some colleagues of mine and yesterday I withdraw about 0.051 Btc but since all that was from mining in 0.001-0.0025 chunks the fee in electrum could not be lower than 0.01 btc which I unfortunately paid.I learned my lesson that I should sent mining payments once every 3 months and not every week but I feel your pain.

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October 30, 2020, 02:36:47 PM
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I will wait for a while and watch because I don't think that the transaction will get fast confirmed.
But I always check the fee before I make a transaction, and if the fees are too high, I will pending to send on my gambling site account, even if I have a positive feeling to win the games.
Maybe I will take a look at another website with the same bets as that site to send some money to that site.
If I already send the money and not getting confirmed or have 1 confirmation, I will ask the support system to know what is going on with the transaction and ask for their help to solve the problem.
But so far, I don't have that experience before, and I don't want to get that experience in the future.

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As I couldn't complete the question in the title, below it is:

How far will you go when you sent btc to a site with high fee but could not get it into the site because either the fee was low based on that time or they credit it after some confirms. Fee has become the talk of crypto nerds and everyone thinks that it is already so high. What will happen when price is high and miners increase fee, mempool is clogged and you have your favorite winning bet available right there on the table but your btc is in your wallet and you want it to reach the gambling site anyhow to bet and win? Give your valuable opinions as they matter.

Wait and watch, that's all I can do. I don't want to do other options because it will cost more, and usually, the website's support staff will reply they need some confirmation before they can credit my crypto.
But if this transaction already meets the requirements confirmation of depositing on gambling's website, I would consider asking the support to credit my funds.
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October 30, 2020, 03:05:51 PM
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If I have some balance left in my wallet I would go for a double spend(RBF/CPFP) just to increase the fee then make a few bets to clear the rollover and exchange them to altcoins temporarily.

Because, when I try using RBF on "Roobet" the first TX made my account getting a problem cannot withdrawal even my RBF transaction already confirmed and they need to solved manually to remove the first transaction. That's just my one experience on "Roobet", IDK about other casinos but could be facing the same problem because some casino who have a feature instant deposit.
On sportsbet you'd get the same experience when you RBF your unconfirmed deposit you have to contact their support and request for a manual fix. How long did it take before they removed the other transaction?

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