Some bounty hunters are so ungrateful

[amonymous]

I have no doubt' Bubbalex really a serious BM, where he want follow good project without looking her salary. There are many managers who are just ready to make money and work on scam projects without research. However there are many projects that can invent many rules during token distribution so we should active in bounty group everyday.

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[casperBGD]

I have no doubt' Bubbalex really a serious BM, where he want follow good project without looking her salary. There are many managers who are just ready to make money and work on scam projects without research. However there are many projects that can invent many rules during token distribution so we should active in bounty group everyday.

yeah, but good manager has to be able to handle that, it is not good when teams invent new rule before distribution, and then bounty hunter work is diminished if he did not saw some rules
you have done the work, and if that work is accepted, than BM should work out a way to inform you about changed rules after bounty is held, should not be other way around that you have to follow everything daily, to see if someone changed something

[zidanw]

I don't think demanding an escrow is bad well they can ask for an escrow but if the projects really doesn't wanted to use an escrow they can either leave or don't join the campaign. I think that user who wanted to tag bounty managers for not using an escrow doesn't well and only cares for himself for what I've know some bounty management is much harder than doing the bounty campaigns since you needed to check all the participants, take care of the spreadsheet and the likes and more.

[myjulie92]

Most frequently asked questions by bounty hunters (poor of me, I also ever did the same at that time, and after learning more here, I am so pitiful and sorry for this because doing some of these):
- When distribution?
- When exchange?
- Why the price is so low?
- Why my stake is not counted?
- Why I don't get the reward?
- Why the distribution is extended?
- Why the project is failed?
- Can I get rewards?
And so on. And most pitiful again is that they ask similar questions in a quite similar time, in case, they can read the information above his chat and he still asks about the same question.

Actually, asking the questions is not that wrong because they want to ensure to get their right to rewards. But if there has been clear information and also new information, we need to wait for that, Check and recheck the information is also very important in the bounty group and also project groups. because BM may not all know about the projects because they are not the team, they only the BM who help the project.

And if we are afraid of getting scammed, this is also our task to analyze the project whether it is legit or scam.

And about escrow, many BM also has implemented this. And if you want all BM to do the same, it means that the participants may be very limited to only certain eligible members.

lol, even they ask about something that nothing to do with bounty managers, and they ask those questions on and on. who won't be annoyed about that ? they won't ask so many sane question if they follow the update and some news about the projects.

[Lordrift]

Hey cheer up this is an open forum where we can tackle everything that concerns Cryptocurrency and our work, people are disappointed because the project they are working turn to a scam and they can voice it out and that doesn't mean they are ungrateful, how do you feel if you worked for 6 months and you did not get your rewards or the projects turn scam, and you complain and because of that. we are ungrateful?

Most times the hunters are only voicing put their pain as most bounty managers do not understand what it means to work for some months only to end up being told stories about how the project turned out to be unsuccessful.
But if a bounty manager cares about his reputation, then he should double up efforts in selecting good and quality bounties before presenting to the masses.

[lienfaye]

A bounty that has an escrow is better, this is to ensure the bounty hunters will get their rewards after the work is done.

However its not on the hands of bounty managers. They are not at fault if there are delays or we're not get paid because its in the control of the dev and team, they are the one to decide and responsible for the payment.

So dont put the blame to bounty managers because they're just doing their job to get paid just like bounty hunters.

[Danslip]

I don't have participated in the bounty campaigns of bubbalex but if many users agree with you then it is ok to look for guilty team members. The bounties don't worth being a participant and that is why the activity has dropped since 2017 when the bounty hunters were able to receive the monthly $1000 by just being a participant of bounty campaigns on the forum.

[Princeofpoetry]

Why does this happen so often? they said dirty even angry because the project failed and blame BM, why don't they blame the project team?
even though BM has done its best by analyzing the project before promoting it and has reminded bounty hunters to always do their own analysis before joining.

[goaldigger]

Bounty hunters are mad maybe because the project didn’t meet their expectation and that is normal for the hunters to react like that, but to blame the manager is not a good one.

I worked with Bubbalex before and he handles the campaign very well, but what he can’t control is the project itself so to those hunters who go beyond the limit, should be limited from participating again so they can learn the lesson as well, not every project will turned as your profitable bounty, expect a downside as well..

[tanjiran]

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Have some God damn respect and show some love, bounty managers are doing what they can, use your own God damn skills too, if we end up losing reputable bounty managers the situation will worse even more

unfortunately there are so many bounty hunters who cannot accept the situation. expectations are too high, and in a hurry.
even though from the start, many bounty managers have warned that rules can change at any time, including postponed distribution, reduced allocations, etc.

if you are not ready for that risk, then don't become a bounty hunter.

Bubbalex is indeed one of the bounty managers who has a pretty good reputation and really cares about bounty hunters. Even though it doesn't provide escrow, it is always intense regarding the search for solutions to reward payments which are full of drama.

OP's advice is very wise, hopefully many will realize this.

[24Kt]

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Have some God damn respect and show some love, bounty managers are doing what they can, use your own God damn skills too, if we end up losing reputable bounty managers the situation will worse even more

unfortunately there are so many bounty hunters who cannot accept the situation. expectations are too high, and in a hurry.
even though from the start, many bounty managers have warned that rules can change at any time, including postponed distribution, reduced allocations, etc.

if you are not ready for that risk, then don't become a bounty hunter.

Bubbalex is indeed one of the bounty managers who has a pretty good reputation and really cares about bounty hunters. Even though it doesn't provide escrow, it is always intense regarding the search for solutions to reward payments which are full of drama.

OP's advice is very wise, hopefully many will realize this.

It is the bounty hunter's responsibility to choose which project he will promote and in the first place, they are not obliged by BM to participate with the program. The BM is just in-charge of counting the stakes and make sure that he has clear communication with the project team regarding distribution. Other than that, they are also hanging in the air and can't answer with all the complaints as he has no control with the project. If you are a bounty hunter, just stick to btc-paying campaigns if you don't want any headache.

[AbuBhakar]

I don't have participated in the bounty campaigns of bubbalex but if many users agree with you then it is ok to look for guilty team members. The bounties don't worth being a participant and that is why the activity has dropped since 2017 when the bounty hunters were able to receive the monthly $1000 by just being a participant of bounty campaigns on the forum.

Back then BTC price is moving high and ICO were making their way to be popular, the timing of bounties those days were so good that many is able to gain alot. But after 2017 ATH and scammy ICO appears doing bounty is hard to deal now, and bounty managers have problems dealing with the company or even finding a good project since there is no really guarantee that the project will be successful. Many good bounty managers back then left already. Now the only thing bounty hunters can do is not to fully rely on who is the bounty manager but with the project goal and chance of being successful it's our will whether we will join or not, no need to blame the bounty managers.

[DoubleAweSeven]

Bounty hunters are making a move nowadays to make the campaign managers buy escrow service. Its not a good thing but this will certainly will force projects to think about the bounty hunters as bounty hunters are being treated as slaves nowadays.

[TGD]

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Have some God damn respect and show some love, bounty managers are doing what they can, use your own God damn skills too, if we end up losing reputable bounty managers the situation will worse even more

unfortunately there are so many bounty hunters who cannot accept the situation. expectations are too high, and in a hurry.
even though from the start, many bounty managers have warned that rules can change at any time, including postponed distribution, reduced allocations, etc.

if you are not ready for that risk, then don't become a bounty hunter.

Bubbalex is indeed one of the bounty managers who has a pretty good reputation and really cares about bounty hunters. Even though it doesn't provide escrow, it is always intense regarding the search for solutions to reward payments which are full of drama.

OP's advice is very wise, hopefully many will realize this.

It is the bounty hunter's responsibility to choose which project he will promote and in the first place, they are not obliged by BM to participate with the program. The BM is just in-charge of counting the stakes and make sure that he has clear communication with the project team regarding distribution. Other than that, they are also hanging in the air and can't answer with all the complaints as he has no control with the project. If you are a bounty hunter, just stick to btc-paying campaigns if you don't want any headache.

Yeah you are right about bounty hunters obligation but BM is job is not only for counting stakes and managing it. There reputation will reflect what campaign there managing so its not that simple, For example if a reputable BM will promote scam, obviously bounty hunters will still swarm in to join the campaign without doing research about the project because they trust BM. BM needs to check review first the campaign before he accepts the job offer.

About the flag, red trust and whatsoever for not escrowing the funds. That is not appropriate move for using that feature of the forum. That user who created the thread is not knowledgeable on how trust and flag systems work here.

[grendel25]

Well this topic is about to get very interesting if the 4-year trend continues and we keep seeing blockchain adoption catalysts.  High bitcion prices means everything else follows and that's going to drive even more new coin projects and new bounty programs.

[btc-facebook]

Escrow is an option and it's not mandatory, but bubbalex is one of the best bounty managers on the forum even though I don't really remember having followed a project he managed or not, I saw the projects he worked on were mostly quality,
Bubbalex indeed often limits participants who participate in his campaign and that's good, because if there are too many the prizes will be less, this is where the role of the bounty manager must be wise when making decisions.

[bluebit25]

I see we need to reduce stress here. Agree that there are many scam projects, but for good BMs we need to respect their decisions and their jobs. This bubbalex's problem with the bounty hunter is absolutely correct and I support his decision, which will be a loss for bounty hunters, as we do not appreciate the work of the BMs. .

[noorman0]

The scam project will continue to exist but it can still be avoided. Likewise, the complaints will continue to exist by people in turn. Even when the value of the payment was only down by 1 cent, some hunters would still complain to the bounty manager. If the hunters' habit was to join the bounty blindly without research, would they also bother considering the status of escrow?

Keep in mind that a developer can do anything with the power of their smartcontract, and escrow is useless.
And I'm not going to pollute the trust scores of all the managers for not escrowing, but I'm not going to join the bounty so as not to complain.

[Byakuga]

Bubbalex have announced that he is taking a break not because of how ungrateful bounty hunters are, that erased all claims already don't you think so OP? I was aware that bounty hunters that participate in DIA campaign trouble bubbalex too much about payment but I don't blame bounty hunters.

[Xxmodded]

Most frequently asked questions by bounty hunters (poor of me, I also ever did the same at that time, and after learning more here, I am so pitiful and sorry for this because doing some of these):
- When distribution?
- When exchange?
- Why the price is so low?
- Why my stake is not counted?
- Why I don't get the reward?
- Why the distribution is extended?
- Why the project is failed?
- Can I get rewards?
And so on. And most pitiful again is that they ask similar questions in a quite similar time, in case, they can read the information above his chat and he still asks about the same question.

Actually, asking the questions is not that wrong because they want to ensure to get their right to rewards. But if there has been clear information and also new information, we need to wait for that, Check and recheck the information is also very important in the bounty group and also project groups. because BM may not all know about the projects because they are not the team, they only the BM who help the project.

And if we are afraid of getting scammed, this is also our task to analyze the project whether it is legit or scam.

And about escrow, many BM also has implemented this. And if you want all BM to do the same, it means that the participants may be very limited to only certain eligible members.

Participants will ask about their question exactly with when distribution for coin reward? many mistake make by bounty manager campaign with promise bounty reward send after campaign end one or two weeks, but when have experience manager campaign will give promise one moth after bounty ended reward distribution and exactly they send depend with their promise. But have mistake with participants when asking when exchange on bounty telegram group, manager campaign of bounty not have responsibility for an exchange, they just update information about bounty campaign and give distribution only, for exchange we have ask to developer of coin.