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November 02, 2020, 10:05:29 PM
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I have noticed and we are all aware that so many people do complain that they were scammed through bitcoin. In every problem there is always a solution. How can we identify when a scammer is trying to scam.Let their be a strong system In such a way that scammers won’t be able to penetrate in. And can we pay more attention when someone complain about scammers.
But in this kind of situation, there will be no solution. There is no other way that we can use to stop scammers, the only thing we can do is to avoid every suspicious actions we can see or if we know that it was totally a scam. Scammers can't be stop since they will always make a way to scam people, we just need to learn not to easily believe in every promises they make.
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Can you stop evil? NO. So, can you stop scammers? Hell Nah! You can only stop yourself from being scammed. There will always be scammers out there. You need to learn how to identify and repel them.
Exactly. But we cannot blame those victims or those who will be because they are just tempted by the idea of earning profit. Making a research about something is not really expensive but victims might be fooled for a reason. This reason could be conformity. If many people engaged into something, there will be s trust that things won't go wrong. What's sad is that in every scam issue, there are lot of people being victims.



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November 02, 2020, 10:29:09 PM
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How can we identify when a scammer is trying to scam.

I believe it is simple, their offer is too good to be true.  If we keep our greed at bay, we can easily see their scammy plot because almost all their offer are those that will trigger our greed and make our brain think irrational.  Aside from that, we also need to educate ourselves and do research in every offer of investment we meet.  Patience and thorough research will always save us from the claws of these scam people.
People should really have that kind of mindset but some are just too lazy to make up some research and making up some reads about on whats the current happening into the market.

There are various methods or schemes that hadn't been known by everybody which means there still chance for a scam-experienced person to fall into the trap.

Its not that we are just dumb but there still some possibility for it to happen even if we do stick with that too good to be true offers should be avoided or neglected but there were instances
where you do end up on second thoughts and consider on making out some investments instead.

scam would always been part of this market as long money do circulate then expect for these people to show up and make ways to steal others money.

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November 02, 2020, 10:56:55 PM
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But in this kind of situation, there will be no solution. There is no other way that we can use to stop scammers, the only thing we can do is to avoid every suspicious actions we can see or if we know that it was totally a scam. Scammers can't be stop since they will always make a way to scam people, we just need to learn not to easily believe in every promises they make.
This is indeed difficult, even the tricks of the scammers are getting tidier.
If it's like this, we need advice from others who are more experienced and understand the ins and outs of crypto. Make the consideration of experienced people as a brake so that we don't get provoked. Lots of websites and telegram channels that share analysis related to new projects, choose one with a really good assessment and is proven to be correct, such as https://t.me/ico_analytic. But remember, we also have to have our own judgment, don't make it the main reference.

We won't be able to stop a scam like this. It will always appear at every opportunity. what we need to do is educate ourselves and others to be more careful and thorough before joining. Immediately report any suspicious projects, or visit the Scam Accusations board on bitcointalk for more information regarding dubious projects.

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November 02, 2020, 11:55:28 PM
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We cannot rely on the system and expect that such system will be 100% scam free as well as hack free because in any system, hackers and scammers are always finding ways how they can intrude and execute their plans to be able to make themselves to always gain the favor upon the situation. What I think is that we must equip ourselves to be knowledgeable enough to counter such scam schemes and hacks. If those hackers and scammers are getting wiser, so we must also be with. Dealing with such wise people must be countered by being knowledgeable and wise as well. If we can be wise like them, it will be a hard time for them to gain victim. Commonly they are targeting newbies in the industry because they were not knowledgeable and easy to be fooled. But if we will be equipped with knowledge about common scams and hacks and have avoidance on that and raise awareness, then the probability of being scammed or hacked will be lessen.

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You need to stop users from following scammers. our current society is built around commercial insurance - dropping that habit, i think, would be the meaning of the "adoption". and since you can not insure against https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/COPYING#L16-L22 the issue is not the amount of scammers, but lack of the understanding of the issue at the first place. but if you talking about custodian services and etc - then the question is strictly rhetorical)))))))))

is this related? https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/jn471u/bcash_sub_justice/

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November 03, 2020, 04:56:56 AM
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Can you stop evil? NO. So, can you stop scammers? Hell Nah! You can only stop yourself from being scammed. There will always be scammers out there. You need to learn how to identify and repel them.
Exactly. But we cannot blame those victims or those who will be because they are just tempted by the idea of earning profit. Making a research about something is not really expensive but victims might be fooled for a reason. This reason could be conformity. If many people engaged into something, there will be s trust that things won't go wrong. What's sad is that in every scam issue, there are lot of people being victims.

scammers wont scam with one to two people only but they want to scam many people at once to make the scam worth it because its hard to start again because people are gonna be looking for them and they need to construct another plan that are new to the eyes of the people .

the only way to gather more people to join is to start as paying , this way people will think its profitable and trusted then they will recomend it to thier friends , nieghbors and people they know .
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November 03, 2020, 05:23:31 AM
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None.

You can't stop scammers for scamming people but you can stop yourself from getting scammed to these newbie scammers.
In reality, scammers are just doing the same tricks to scam people. In crypto world, some of the ways they do to scam is doing a live on Youtube or attracting newbie investors thru their sweet words etc. Being knowledgeable and not ignorant will help you not to get scammed.

I also agree that experiencing getting scammed would help you not to get scammed on the next one. Overall, there is no way for you to stop Bitcoin scammers but you can stop yourself from getting scammed.

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November 03, 2020, 05:51:48 AM
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You can never have a system 100% free of scammers, because scamming is made possible by gaining someone's confidence, and you can't do anything about someone's decisions. Bitcoin draws scammers because it can't be frozen, seized, intercepted, charged back, and it even offers some privacy, but even without those things scammers would still operate, just like they scam people through PayPal or banks or cash. There's no point in trading off Bitcoin's decentralization and freedom just to have less scams, because we already have non-free centralized systems, and Bitcoin is only valuable because it's not like them.

To stop scammers can't be really granted 100 percentage sure, because no one knows they operational strategies to penetrate or deceived people, only thing I found out through scammers that can eradicate the rate of scamming, is through a protest via a noted people who is involve with evidence and also some platforms, so protest will take place via telegram, Facebook and other social media platform in order to subsides the higher rate of scamming.

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November 03, 2020, 06:49:56 AM
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We cannot do anything to stop them at 100% because every time they end a scam for sure they will start another scam. All we can do is just to spread awareness and report this to the platform that is promoting these scams to make a quick termination of the post or account. There are a lot of people who always give this statement " if the scammers always got a victim, they will continue their scamming activity " - this is just the meaning of what they are saying.

what we can avoid is not to make the wrong move so that people like them can enter the network we have, the clear way is to avoid mistakes in the actions we take.

This is the reason to keep knowledgeable and conscious of those things always and also it's better to share awareness to help them too and stop these scammers.

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November 03, 2020, 06:59:28 AM
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Unfortunately, we cannot stop this scammers to do evil deeds to us. But, I believe that we can avoid them, by not trusting so easily, if they will offered something too good to be true. We can be cautious by this kind of people, especially that money is really hard to earn in this strange time. We need to have a sense of discerning what the topic is leading too. Being cautious is the best way to avoid this scammers.
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November 03, 2020, 07:20:19 AM
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We can't actually stop these people from scamming.

If you will ask me, we can't stop it but we can find a solution to keep ourselves from getting scammed and lessen the number of people being scammed because if we can do that, the number of scams will also reduce. One of the best ways to actually identify a scam is if it is too good to be true. You should also look at these projects and know more about them.
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November 03, 2020, 07:23:29 AM
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You can not put an end to scam or scammers but you can try to develop yourself to be able to recognize a scam and stay away from it, and possibly warn others about it, but thinking you can entirely put an end to scam is fallacy, the only thing you can do is think of how to protect yourself from a known and the unknown scam, where there is good there will always be bad, whatever have advantage will also have a disadvantage,

scam does not only exit in btc or in crypto, in other aspect of life there are different form of scam and people have been able to survive one way or another, it is a question of being careful not to fall a victim, even the government will find it difficult to put an end to any form of scam, if that where the case, by now there will be no insecurities and all other social unrest, but that is not the case,  this is a way of life.

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November 03, 2020, 07:27:01 AM
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Scammers will exist while stupid people exists. Its still pretty easy to scam people here in crypto, thats why they are here

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November 03, 2020, 07:29:12 AM
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You can not put an end to scam or scammers but you can try to develop yourself to be able to recognize a scam and stay away from it, and possibly warn others about it, but thinking you can entirely put an end to scam is fallacy, the only thing you can do is think of how to protect yourself from a known and the unknown scam, where there is good there will always be bad, whatever have advantage will also have a disadvantage,

scam does not only exit in btc or in crypto, in other aspect of life there are different form of scam and people have been able to survive one way or another, it is a question of being careful not to fall a victim, even the government will find it difficult to put an end to any form of scam, if that where the case, by now there will be no insecurities and all other social unrest, but that is not the case,  this is a way of life.

That is so true. Very hard to stop them as they grow like mushrooms. If you stop one today, there will be more tomorrow. So one simple thing that I do when I encounter obvious phishing site or ponzi scheme, I report it to google and state the reason why I am reporting it. Because if they will receive reports or complaints for that particular site, I hope they are making action like shutting down the site to stop further screwing naive users.
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November 03, 2020, 07:33:41 AM
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Scammers are everywhere. If you stop one of their "scams", they will come back with another. It is like they are totally unstoppable. The only you can not be scammed by them is being careful. Think twice before attempting to invest or do something.
I have seen people who know that a scheme is a scam, but they still try those schemes out to see if they get lucky. That is the most stupidest thing to do to be honest. They are the one indirectly promoting scams and encouraging scammers to scam more!

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November 03, 2020, 07:40:32 AM
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Mass awareness, if people are cautious and aware of the ways how people scam other people, it's less likely that people will fall victim. There is no way we can stop the scam, the only thing we can do is to avoid it. There is no way to put an end to this, people will always make a way to earn easy money and some are being very creative on scamming people.
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November 03, 2020, 08:47:28 AM
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it is impossible to stop scam, there are many naive people around the world not just in crypto space that are very easy to deceive, when we have people like this around definitely scam will always occur, no matter how hard you try you can not stop the existence of scammers,  this is why we have to do our part to look before we leap, when you see something on unusual stay away or first do proper research to know more before making attempt, it is very important to be careful.

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November 03, 2020, 09:27:11 AM
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I have also pick some important things from the comments, Let there be a Rigidity in some systems that use bitcoin for there exchange or transactions, You can be ignorant of scams but you won’t get scammed because of the system rigidity.Sometimes scammers find it easy to scam and sometimes is difficult, because the securities will be so strong and tight even when you are fully convinced by scammers it will be difficult for them to penetrate, It will be difficult to generate a means of scamming because the system is very rigid.
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