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November 06, 2020, 10:35:22 PM
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Trump holds his first press conference in two days, and Univision has a violent reaction, cuts away from him and starts calling him a liar. Trump was basically repeating the report of some of the poll watchers, that they were separated, given binoculars.

https://www.univision.com/noticias/univision-interrumpio-el-discurso-de-donald-trump-por-difundir-falsedades-las-palabras-de-jorge-ramos-video

I've never seen anything like it. Isn't that very unprofessional. Shouldn't the people be able to listen to the President and consider what he says? Reminded me of the Hunter Biden scandal.

I pretty much wanted to check out the Spanish media perspective, but this is pretty much all of the US news station.
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November 08, 2020, 05:18:36 PM
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Trump holds his first press conference in two days, and Univision has a violent reaction, cuts away from him and starts calling him a liar. Trump was basically repeating the report of some of the poll watchers, that they were separated, given binoculars.

https://www.univision.com/noticias/univision-interrumpio-el-discurso-de-donald-trump-por-difundir-falsedades-las-palabras-de-jorge-ramos-video

I've never seen anything like it. Isn't that very unprofessional. Shouldn't the people be able to listen to the President and consider what he says? Reminded me of the Hunter Biden scandal.

I pretty much wanted to check out the Spanish media perspective, but this is pretty much all of the US news station.

True, but that's what I would expect from Univision.

But this election is going into the legal process, so it really doesn't matter what the talking heads say.
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December 10, 2020, 10:44:07 PM
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Of course the third world spics are going to be mad.  What did you expect?

Edit:  Who the fk watches "Univision"?

A lot of people who vote. The same thing also happened with English speaking channels. Can't have the people considering the possibility.
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December 11, 2020, 10:23:31 AM
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Univision has a violent reaction, cuts away from him and starts calling him a liar

I can't watch the linked video (unless I start messing about with the VPN), but other channels have been doing similar. Some may be because they don't want to report on 'facts' that have been widely discredited, but I suspect a lot of channels are doing it purely for the drama so they can cause controversy and sensation by - gasp! - cutting away from the president!!! Look at this channel! So daring! So edgy! Watch us now! You never know what crazy/outrageous thing we'll do next!

The question of balance and accuracy in mainstream media is obviously a difficult one. You want people to be free to say what they want, but at the same time you don't want to give airtime to liars who mislead people with obvious untruths. Not talking about Trump at all here, it's a wider issue. We have this across all sorts of topics, where channels that are supposedly (or do even actually try to be) impartial are fastidious in giving airtime to opponents of any reported view. For example, despite near unanimity amongst climate scientists on the subject of human-caused climate change, many channels will allow a climate-skeptic equal airtime, even though they're representing a tiny minority view. But channels decide for themselves on what is 'too much', for example here in the UK if there is someone talking about evolution, the channels are unlikely to give airtime to creationists, because evolution has become established fact. I suspect in other countries this standard may be different. But the line is always drawn somewhere. If someone says a problem is 'global', then there aren't going to be many channels giving airtime to flat-earthers disputing the world 'globe'.

The question is where to draw the line, and what constitutes 'truth'. No easy answer.






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December 11, 2020, 06:49:04 PM
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Trump holds his first press conference in two days, and Univision has a violent reaction, cuts away from him and starts calling him a liar. Trump was basically repeating the report of some of the poll watchers, that they were separated, given binoculars.

https://www.univision.com/noticias/univision-interrumpio-el-discurso-de-donald-trump-por-difundir-falsedades-las-palabras-de-jorge-ramos-video

I've never seen anything like it. Isn't that very unprofessional. Shouldn't the people be able to listen to the President and consider what he says? Reminded me of the Hunter Biden scandal.

I pretty much wanted to check out the Spanish media perspective, but this is pretty much all of the US news station.

True, but that's what I would expect from Univision.

But this election is going into the legal process, so it really doesn't matter what the talking heads say.

Right! And further, this disrespect by the media shows that the media is criminally against The United States of America.

It's one thing to simply voice your opinions and ideals in the news. But when you start cutting off the main leader of the country because you don't like his opinions and ideals, you are moving towards the direction of treason.

It might not be treasonous if you are a little nobody news casting outlet, but when people are trusting you for the truth, and you cut them off, you are essentially cutting your own throat... which is okay, if that's the way you are.

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December 12, 2020, 12:02:13 AM
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Univision has a violent reaction, cuts away from him and starts calling him a liar

I can't watch the linked video (unless I start messing about with the VPN), but other channels have been doing similar. Some may be because they don't want to report on 'facts' that have been widely discredited, but I suspect a lot of channels are doing it purely for the drama so they can cause controversy and sensation by - gasp! - cutting away from the president!!! Look at this channel! So daring! So edgy! Watch us now! You never know what crazy/outrageous thing we'll do next!

The question of balance and accuracy in mainstream media is obviously a difficult one. You want people to be free to say what they want, but at the same time you don't want to give airtime to liars who mislead people with obvious untruths. Not talking about Trump at all here, it's a wider issue. We have this across all sorts of topics, where channels that are supposedly (or do even actually try to be) impartial are fastidious in giving airtime to opponents of any reported view. For example, despite near unanimity amongst climate scientists on the subject of human-caused climate change, many channels will allow a climate-skeptic equal airtime, even though they're representing a tiny minority view. But channels decide for themselves on what is 'too much', for example here in the UK if there is someone talking about evolution, the channels are unlikely to give airtime to creationists, because evolution has become established fact. I suspect in other countries this standard may be different. But the line is always drawn somewhere. If someone says a problem is 'global', then there aren't going to be many channels giving airtime to flat-earthers disputing the world 'globe'.

The question is where to draw the line, and what constitutes 'truth'. No easy answer.

I don't think inaccuracies in the media are as much of a problem as blatant bias, censorship, and activism. Activists are parading themselves as objective journalists when it's not the case. It's always been there, but Trump has made it obvious that "objective" news outlets aren't actually objective but use their air time to push a narrative, looking at you CNN, NYT (and more).

I'm reminded of NPR, a publicly funded entity, which literally refused to cover anything related to Hunter Biden for being "unsubstantiated" which was complete and utter horse shit - https://www.marketwatch.com/story/npr-explained-why-its-not-covering-the-hunter-biden-laptop-story-and-now-president-trumps-son-wants-to-defund-it-11603386611

They didn't want to cover it because it went against Joe Biden.
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December 12, 2020, 01:05:25 PM
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inaccuracies in the media

The fundamental problem, I suppose, is that a lot of people don't think for themselves. If everyone was responsible and questioned everything they were told, no matter the source, rather than just accepting 'facts' blindly, then democracy would work a lot better. There is always so much talk about voting being a right, about universal suffrage being a right, but there is very little talk about how it is also a responsibility. If you live in a democracy, and especially if that democracy has been hard fought for, then it is your responsibility to reach your own personal conclusions rather than just blindly accepting whatever crap you're told, whether from the left or the right.






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December 12, 2020, 01:52:10 PM
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official poll observers were allowed into the counting facilities.

trumpette fangirl average joe people standing outside the building looking through windows were not the official poll observers.

i know trump months ago asked average joe trumpettes to try to invade the counting facilities and call themselves poll observers. but this does not then default them as the official poll observers.

yes average joe trumpettes felt that they were not given the oppertunity to observe the polls from within the building,, standing over the shoulder of counters... but they again are not the official poll observers.
...

what republicans need to realise is that there is a multi-hundrend million money pot sat in the RNC bank account that could be used for the next election or any republican lobbying/local utility. but trump wants to raid it dry of every cent before he gets evicted in january.
he does not care about the republican party. or want to help them in the future. he just wants to hand money to himself and his friends using flimsy situations to get his hands on the money.

yep his best bud giuliani is getting rich from these SLAPP lawsuits. as are many other pals of trump

..
so this is why i laugh. the trumpette fangirls are not patriotic to america. nor patriotic to republicans. they are defending trumps silly stunts because of trump being somewhat a celebrity.

this is why i call them fangirls,, idiots and trumpettes.
and it is funny how they even go against american/republican ideals just to fangirl up to trump.


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December 14, 2020, 07:29:53 PM
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Univision has a violent reaction, cuts away from him and starts calling him a liar

I can't watch the linked video (unless I start messing about with the VPN), but other channels have been doing similar. Some may be because they don't want to report on 'facts' that have been widely discredited, but I suspect a lot of channels are doing it purely for the drama so they can cause controversy and sensation by - gasp! - cutting away from the president!!! Look at this channel! So daring! So edgy! Watch us now! You never know what crazy/outrageous thing we'll do next!

The question of balance and accuracy in mainstream media is obviously a difficult one. You want people to be free to say what they want, but at the same time you don't want to give airtime to liars who mislead people with obvious untruths. Not talking about Trump at all here, it's a wider issue. We have this across all sorts of topics, where channels that are supposedly (or do even actually try to be) impartial are fastidious in giving airtime to opponents of any reported view. For example, despite near unanimity amongst climate scientists on the subject of human-caused climate change, many channels will allow a climate-skeptic equal airtime, even though they're representing a tiny minority view. But channels decide for themselves on what is 'too much', for example here in the UK if there is someone talking about evolution, the channels are unlikely to give airtime to creationists, because evolution has become established fact. I suspect in other countries this standard may be different. But the line is always drawn somewhere. If someone says a problem is 'global', then there aren't going to be many channels giving airtime to flat-earthers disputing the world 'globe'.

The question is where to draw the line, and what constitutes 'truth'. No easy answer.

I don't think inaccuracies in the media are as much of a problem as blatant bias, censorship, and activism. Activists are parading themselves as objective journalists when it's not the case. It's always been there, but Trump has made it obvious that "objective" news outlets aren't actually objective but use their air time to push a narrative, looking at you CNN, NYT (and more).

I'm reminded of NPR, a publicly funded entity, which literally refused to cover anything related to Hunter Biden for being "unsubstantiated" which was complete and utter horse shit - https://www.marketwatch.com/story/npr-explained-why-its-not-covering-the-hunter-biden-laptop-story-and-now-president-trumps-son-wants-to-defund-it-11603386611

They didn't want to cover it because it went against Joe Biden.

People forget alot of media bias comes from the ability to just not cover a story, compared to the regular thought narrative of the story being changed. A lot of news companies will just not cover a particular story in an attempt to shield it from public light.

In my own opinion though, the Hunter Biden story at first was NOT able to hold it's own weight. If you're unable to get any outlet besides the NY Post to push out your story then there is a problem. Why didn't FOX cover it as well? That's the issue there.

The second story now, about the whole email from one of his business partners about him having to amend his return is something else though. That's a real story with some legs on it.

Lot of people have to just stop WATCHING the news and instead READ the news, makes it a bit easier to cut through some of the garbage.




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December 14, 2020, 07:35:15 PM
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while trump fangirls are complaining about news not showing their idol enough. they are not realising the real news is the terms of trumps 'make america great again' campaign has 75% of funds to be given to trump to do as he pleases and only 25% goes to the RNC

so for all the fools pretending to be republican. but instead acting like trumpettes.
just realise that trump is getting rich off your idolisms

$200m = $150m in trumps pocket.
he is very happy for your donations.

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December 14, 2020, 11:54:24 PM
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trump was unstoppable he had even a growing base of nonwhite voters,

the corrupt extremist LGBTQ anti white racist lobby deep state, then faked the election in order to establish their corrupt agenda.

Youtube now purges on everyone supporting a conservative cause.

for them its not about inclusivity, for them everything is about race.

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