Here is a conspiracy theory

[bitbollo]

What will happen if they don't find a vaccine and countries start running out of financial resources ?

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How i view it :

Step 1 print money
Step 2 increase taxes on biz
Step 3 companies go bankrupt
Step 4 increase individual taxes and print more money
Step 5 Hyperinflation
Step 6 Big countries will start attacking small countries for resources ,probably via protection tax or by tariffs
Step 7 Big countries will start occupying small countries, USA + China + Russia will form an alliance
Step 8 Venezuela,Iraq,Kuwait will be the first targets
Step 9 Attack on Saudi Arabia and African countries ,recolonization process
Step 10 Resources finished
Step 11 Big countries will start attacking each other
Step 12 Global Nuclear War

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38CkKrak5o8

conspiracy theories, we do will really need that?
I mean it's full of crazy people on the web that declare the last super secret conspiracy... but we really need it? I guess absolutely not, since an alliance between Russia USA and CHINA it's something close to impossible at least for the next century. moreover some of countries "targets" are already "occupied" or at least with some external government.

[Nellayar]

There are always positive and negative effect when vaccines will release to the public. If the vaccines will successfully come out to the public, economy gradually recovers but if it has negative effects to the covid patients, we will expect a continuous fall of the economy.

If vaccines will not be release by next year, inflation may occur as well. Every country will depends upon the loans, jobless people will increase and death rate will rise up. Economic depression may experience throughout the year. We just pray, things will become good in the near future.

[amishmanish]

This "conspiracy theory" has nothing new to it. Every conspiracy theory has a few things in common:

1.) World Government

2.) A belief that Wars are "arranged" by both sides

In reality, with Biden coming to power, i hope that this whole gloom-doom scenario of Us vs Them which plays to the machismo of men wanting to pick up a fight will stop. A lot of energy has been wasted in letting the sadists live out their fantasies over live television speaking about deep state conspiracies and what not. We may be seeing the return of positive interactions between people and return to science and arts rather than religion and arms.

The US media will stop being the circus around Donald and Donald will be happy mulching his burger and attempt to golf. Now that he won't be president, Donald would be just another hate spewing, indecent man. The world can go back trying to build and retain the environment for future generations.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Stop at the first question. The vaccine will be created. Further fantasies are just another crazy paranoid delirium.
Many science fiction writers love to herald the apocalypse.
But there is a saying: "The devil is not so bad as he is painted" or "The lion is not so fierce as he is painted"
Many medical organizations know how the virus is treated, so things are not as bad as we used to think.
Russia offers its vaccine to all European countries. Each country has the right to acquire it or engage in prejudice, looking for an enemy where there is none.

[AicecreaME]

What will happen if they don't find a vaccine and countries start running out of financial resources ?

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How i view it :

Step 1 print money
Step 2 increase taxes on biz
Step 3 companies go bankrupt
Step 4 increase individual taxes and print more money
Step 5 Hyperinflation
Step 6 Big countries will start attacking small countries for resources ,probably via protection tax or by tariffs
Step 7 Big countries will start occupying small countries, USA + China + Russia will form an alliance
Step 8 Venezuela,Iraq,Kuwait will be the first targets
Step 9 Attack on Saudi Arabia and African countries ,recolonization process
Step 10 Resources finished
Step 11 Big countries will start attacking each other
Step 12 Global Nuclear War

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38CkKrak5o8

I think this won't happen given that the medical professionals in different countries are doing their best to contain the virus. The healthcare sectors are doing all they can to treat those who are found be infected. At the same, there are numerous vaccine undergoing tests and trials already. So, in no time vaccine would be produced.

In addition, most of us already know how to cope with this pandemic. People have already adjusted to the new normal set up. Majority are concern enough to follow the safety protocols and guidelines given by the government to avoid contacting and spreading the virus. By maintaining wearing proper protection and physical distancing, covid cases would soon decrease.

Here in our country, it seems that everything has gone back to normal. Many establishments, businesses, companies, and malls have continue their operations already. People are going back to their jobs and are adapting to the new normal just like every other countries. After all, we don't have any choice, but to open and operate again for the country's economy, so that it won't be a burden to the government to find another financial source to sustain the citizens needs.

[tyz]

The UK will probably have heard immunity by the spring if they keep going as they are.

1% of the country are estimated to be infected with the virus atm... So if we don't get a vaccine fast we won't be having any lockdowns.

More and more serious scientists doubt that herd immunity can be achieved at all. Meanwhile it is known that many have become infected again although they had corona a few months ago and the course is sometimes even worse the second time. Furthermore, herd immunity is only possible if the virus does not change. But it mutates. Just like the annual flu. This is also the reason why one should vaccinate oneself against influenza again every year, since herd immunity is not possible with mutating viruses.

[barbara44]

Obviously conspiracy theories are something people make up to have fun, some people believe in them as well but thankfully they are not really that big in numbers and can't really do much about it even if they were, there are tons of people who still do not believe that humanity went to moon when you can literally watch space rockets go up with your own eyes these days (obviously you have to be there) so it is understandable that there are people who fall for these.

However this one is a bit too extreme isn't it? I mean from just a vaccine to suddenly nuclear war? Isn't that like at least 100+ years of troubles all compacted into one problem we have now? Vaccine will probably happen sooner or later, it could happen a year from now or two years but it will happen, we are not going to see these type of huge problems in just few years, no way.

[Darkoth89]

While the world is waiting for a working vaccine (which we will definitely find one day), scientists and doctors all over the world are learning more about the virus and Covid19. Learning how it spreads. how to prevent its spread the best and how to treat it in the most efficient way. So even though it might take some time to find the vaccine, we are getting used to living with the virus, each day a bit more.

So there is absolutely no need for any of these doomsday predictions etc.

Btw. OP seems to have a vivid fantasy and some strange believes and crazy opinions (like "China should be nuked in my opinion ..."). It appears he's just here starting these kind of threads and enjoy reading our comments.

[coolcoinz]

I can give you a much simpler answer. If they don't find a vaccine the virus will infect everyone and maybe 1% of the world population will die. Is that a lot? It is if you're in that 1%, but the economy will not collapse, the world will not end. It's about time people accepted the inevitable. We will have virus outbreaks every now and then and some people will die, but the young, strong and healthy will live on, with vaccines or without them.

[jackg]

Right now vaccination is being tested on teachers and healthcare professionals we will for sure find one and chances are even if the virus mutates the vaccination will work. Since whole mutation of genome is something that won't happen for sure.

I think it's not a whole mutation of the viral plasmid and just a difference in the physical buildup of the virus. The vaccine will be designed to protect against a certain feature of the virus - some protect against the antigens it has on its cells (which have sadly already mutated in farmed species in Continental Europe and the US - there's no evidence to suggest that strain won't be killed off though especially considering Europe normally has good disease control when the pathogen starts there)... And some will protect against different parts.

I can give you a much simpler answer. If they don't find a vaccine the virus will infect everyone and maybe 1% of the world population will die. Is that a lot? It is if you're in that 1%, but the economy will not collapse, the world will not end. It's about time people accepted the inevitable. We will have virus outbreaks every now and then and some people will die, but the young, strong and healthy will live on, with vaccines or without them.

Yeha the more interconnected the world is the more likely stuff is to spread. We only didn't have the ebola virus in europe because not many people from areas that had the disease travelled there and ones who did became quite ill soon after and the disease didn't spread well.

It's likely every 20-50 years soon enough we'll get a new strain of a virus similar in stranght tot he coronavirus (with mortality between 0.4-5% with a median around the lower region).

[Teresa_FX1]

The conspirasy theory should look like this:
1.Mandatory vaccine and immunity passport (travel ban without it)
2.Chemtrails intensification
2.Depopulation (result of mandatory vaccine, chemtrails and 5G)
3.One world government
4.No property rights, all property belongs to the governemt
5. Fiat money abolishment
6. Basic income for all in crypto if you behave

[Mauser]

I am usually a fan of conspiracy theories, like with Jeffrey Eppstein for example. There are so many great theories out there if what happened. But saying the corona virus leads to nuclear war is a bit extreme in my opinion. Humanity survived the cold War between Russia and USA, I am pretty sure we can make through the corona pandemic as well.

[cabron]

The conspirasy theory should look like this:
1.Mandatory vaccine and immunity passport (travel ban without it)
2.Chemtrails intensification
2.Depopulation (result of mandatory vaccine, chemtrails and 5G)
3.One world government
4.No property rights, all property belongs to the governemt
5. Fiat money abolishment
6. Basic income for all in crypto if you behave

Thats not how it should be. It should be this way.

1. Aliens come to provide vaccine while the aliens are trying to open the pyramids in Egypt, the god of War also come.

2.  Odin the God of war resurrects all the Vikings to raid everyone who still has gold.

3. US who has to most Gold cooperates with the Vikings to dominate every country in Middle East.

4. US have the oil for themselves. Abolishes BTC.

[DooMAD]

The UK will probably have heard immunity by the spring if they keep going as they are.

I don't get all this talk about 'Herd Immunity'.  I mean, first off, does it not bother you that the government talk about the public in the same way they talk about cattle?  They see us as livestock that they own.  And secondly, where's our herd immunity to the common cold or flu?  Where's our immunity to cancer or aids?  You don't necessarily get immunity to some medical conditions.  I think people are living in a fantasy world if they believe we're just going to suddenly become resistant to this thing and it's just going to magically go away.


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Latest news is that a vaccine looks promising, though:  https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-vaccine-covid-pfizer-trial-b1719607.html

[jemimah_f3]

Lol this sounds good! it could be a nice movie too

quote author=cabron link=topic=5287428.msg55552435#msg55552435 date=1604919506]

The conspirasy theory should look like this:
1.Mandatory vaccine and immunity passport (travel ban without it)
2.Chemtrails intensification
2.Depopulation (result of mandatory vaccine, chemtrails and 5G)
3.One world government
4.No property rights, all property belongs to the governemt
5. Fiat money abolishment
6. Basic income for all in crypto if you behave

Thats not how it should be. It should be this way.

1. Aliens come to provide vaccine while the aliens are trying to open the pyramids in Egypt, the god of War also come.

2.  Odin the God of war resurrects all the Vikings to raid everyone who still has gold.

3. US who has to most Gold cooperates with the Vikings to dominate every country in Middle East.

4. US have the oil for themselves. Abolishes BTC.


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[Casdinyard]

I can give you a much simpler answer. If they don't find a vaccine the virus will infect everyone and maybe 1% of the world population will die. Is that a lot? It is if you're in that 1%, but the economy will not collapse, the world will not end. It's about time people accepted the inevitable. We will have virus outbreaks every now and then and some people will die, but the young, strong and healthy will live on, with vaccines or without them.

Vaccine is still needed, being healthy won't be enough. People have survived previous pandemics and problems because a solution was made. It is indeed a nature of the human race to adapt to its environment in order to survive but I doubt if it would really work if there is an alteration from a virus not merely natural phenomenon. There are many people who died despite of being physically healthy, due to this virus and that threatens the Masses. For sure scientists will not work their hours developing such thing if there is an easier way.

[oHnK]

Talking about conspiracies is endless.  But right now I believe this is indeed an ordinary pandemic, even if there was a conspiracy at the beginning the impact would not be as bad as what the OP talked about.  Until now, my country has been doing well even though the debt has increased, and the current total debt is still fine when compared to the country's GDP.  Inflation in my country was maintained even though there was a slight increase, but not hyperinflation, although I admit that unemployment has increased.  If it comes to nuclear war, my mind is too naive, but I'm sure it's not like this.

[Yatsan]

It seems like your conspiracy is leading into a massive war between countries/nations because of the current situation. That could be possible to happen if there would be a trigger to do such. But all are on a current struggle so there is no point for such thing to occur. The government of different countries are now into focus on how they can manage to control the number of infected cases and how they can deal on opening their economy even at this pandemic. Although we are talking about conspiracy theories, still those were certainly not agreeable for we must be thinking about peaceful talks and how to recover after this pandemic and economic crisis.

[bits4books]

This is all a good theory, but it has one critical flaw.
For it to work, the governments of countries must have people with a negative iq and with 3 grades of education in a village Catholic school.
Let me remind you that most of us (including gov) want to avoid total war.
The theory is good, again, I do not argue, but it is too difficult to verify simply because countries are led not by mentally retarded  people but still at least something but understanding people.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Your theory may be correct if medical experts worldwide don't find any vaccine to stop the coronavirus from spreading. It could lead to world war because many countries are now running out of financial resources and increasing their debts.  However, the virus is still curable if COVID-19 patients were immediately treated, so many countries have decreased their virus cases. Your theory will not be much about a world war, but inflation might continue in 2021 because many countries are still printing money to provide for their citizens' needs.