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November 10, 2020, 04:15:20 PM
Last edit: November 30, 2020, 06:16:17 PM by holydarkness
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What happened: GLG raises some suspicions on several aspect of their project, as follows:

1. Their planned UI were a clear Photoshop from Uniswap, and a poor one, nonetheless as they're not even replacing HEX token with theirs.

2. They held private sale with google form.

3. Their token sale address were a personal address. Not a smart contract, a personal wallet address. (This one kinda funny)

Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2476

Scammer profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2875126
Announcement thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288130.0 | archive
Website: http://glgrewards.com/ | archive
The notorious google form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1L64boPbkYa7dPICTLYl0QI8qP8bogOxXLD1JzmkAIhs/viewform?edit_requested=true | archive
Their... "smart contract": 0x313aF5D86c9F5D822968E6A82341ec1465739e76 | link

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November 10, 2020, 05:51:44 PM
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Looks like the scammer's website was has already been taken down. I assume the website host acted on complaints and suspended it.
Either way, I'm glad it's down! Wink



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November 12, 2020, 05:43:34 AM
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They deleted the old ann and created a new one. Website was back, although it undergoes a total makeover and now literally shows no info in it other than they'll... bring more info. archive

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November 12, 2020, 06:02:18 AM
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Looks like the scammer's website was has already been taken down. I assume the website host acted on complaints and suspended it.
Either way, I'm glad it's down! Wink



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I'm glad that their host are quick to take action, a week of a scam websites being online can generate thousands of dollars already, besides posting the information here we should all unite and file a complain report to stop this scammers, they will continue to do this because it will only cost them $50 to set up the sites and get a host, so expect them to keep trying.

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November 12, 2020, 06:23:30 AM
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1. Their planned UI were a clear Photoshop from Uniswap, and a poor one, nonetheless as they're not even replacing HEX token with theirs.[/color]
So the image attached is simply a screenshot or image only? Ive seen some platform with actual swapping UI and working, but of course its easy for professional dev to incorporate this and change into something new.


2. They held private sale with google form.

Shouldnt be used in being categorized as scam. Why? Ive participated on most private sale with Google form and some but majority were good. It totally depends on the credibility and way they are using the form. But this one is exception, obviously shady.

3. Their token sale address were a personal address. Not a smart contract, a personal wallet address. (This one kinda funny)
If its on private sale, normally some projects havent yet deployed their smart contract. Ive joined also private sale that conduct and used wallet first. It depends on how you trust putting your money into.


Thanks for sharing the scam project it seems this one has its motive clearly. But let me remind you that the 3 points you shared is not a basis of a scam. Why? Joined some past project that uses this method but of course I do my DD ( due diligence) why Ive trust them. Maybe point 2 and 3 shouldnt but 1 can be a clear one to used as evidence.

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November 19, 2020, 09:21:39 PM
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The dev deleted their second ann thread (I posted a scam warning on that thread too, just archived the page before the post, thus it didn't appear on the archived page) and created a third one, probably to evade the scam warning instead of answering to this page. In concern that they'll just keep re-creating new thread to bury the scam warning, I believe a flag should be raised.

Archived 3rd ANN: https://archive.is/UqJEh
Archived website: https://archive.is/mjDlK
Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2476

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November 23, 2020, 02:24:17 PM
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Thanks everybody for your feedback! We are dissapointed to see this scam warning as we can assure you we definitely aren't.

What would you like us to provide you to assure you that we aren't a scam?
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November 23, 2020, 02:47:23 PM
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Thanks everybody for your feedback! We are dissapointed to see this scam warning as we can assure you we definitely aren't.

What would you like us to provide you to assure you that we aren't a scam?

I'll suggest that you can start from answering my points on thr opening thread, and then add the explanation why you keep deleting your threads.

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November 26, 2020, 08:26:52 AM
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Thanks everybody for your feedback! We are dissapointed to see this scam warning as we can assure you we definitely aren't.

What would you like us to provide you to assure you that we aren't a scam?

I'll suggest that you can start from answering my points on thr opening thread, and then add the explanation why you keep deleting your threads.

Sure thing - we hope this clears things up for everybody:

1.) The photo is of course a photoshop however, just like many projects, we are finalizing our internal designs. Uniswap is open source code, it can be forked very easily. Sushiswap is a scam if you’re using this theory on other projects.

2.) What is wrong with a google form? We had a pledge campaign where users commit funds and we can tracking results internally.

3.) Have you ever participated in an OTC or SAFT deal? Our code is being audited and we have not yet released our token into the world. This is how we ensure the platform is safe and secure before launch.

One thing to note, we are integrating GLG into 2 of our businesses. You can see on our updated website which businesses these are and how big they are too. Both are multi million dollar companies.

The site did indeed look very rough, but we’ve worked on it a little and put it together nicely. We will also be releasing a “team” section of the site. So you can find out exactly who we are.
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November 26, 2020, 10:18:43 AM
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Sure thing - we hope this clears things up for everybody:

1.) The photo is of course a photoshop however, just like many projects, we are finalizing our internal designs. Uniswap is open source code, it can be forked very easily. Sushiswap is a scam if you’re using this theory on other projects.


Let's see if I get this right, you don't have an appropriate platform, token, design, ico sale page (hence, the googleform), and god know what elses. So basically you only had an idea and a rough design, and instead of waiting for things to settle on their places, to be ready with better looks and preparation and ptofessionalism, you said, "ahh fuck it, lets just launch now and throw updates here and there later, we're urgently needed the money. Just take a screenshot at uniswap and photoshop them, we don't have time to hire someone to design UI." ?

And about forking... how does your answer related to forking an exchange (or swap) platform? You're on a gambling and betting service, you planned to provide a swap too?

2.) What is wrong with a google form? We had a pledge campaign where users commit funds and we can tracking results internally.

Well sure, nothing's wrong with them, other than a matter of aesthetic and professional. If a project had time to build their own ICO page, I concur they'll opt to go with their own professionally designed page, especially when every other things were not ready too, so there should be nothing to rush. So probably the question that should be addressed here beside the google form was: what rushes you bad? Especially with other things were not ready too, anyway.

3.) Have you ever participated in an OTC or SAFT deal? Our code is being audited and we have not yet released our token into the world. This is how we ensure the platform is safe and secure before launch.

Wait... Were you trying to say your token sale were under SAFT?

One thing to note, we are integrating GLG into 2 of our businesses. You can see on our updated website which businesses these are and how big they are too. Both are multi million dollar companies.

The site did indeed look very rough, but we’ve worked on it a little and put it together nicely. We will also be releasing a “team” section of the site. So you can find out exactly who we are.

Bet2winasia? What's the other one? And when will this "team" released?

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Let's see if I get this right, you don't have an appropriate platform, token, design, ico sale page (hence, the googleform), and god know what elses. So basically you only had an idea and a rough design, and instead of waiting for things to settle on their places, to be ready with better looks and preparation and ptofessionalism, you said, "ahh fuck it, lets just launch now and throw updates here and there later, we're urgently needed the money. Just take a screenshot at uniswap and photoshop them, we don't have time to hire someone to design UI." ?

And about forking... how does your answer related to forking an exchange (or swap) platform? You're on a gambling and betting service, you planned to provide a swap too?

Firstly, we definitely don’t need the money. We run two multi million dollar companies. These companies will be integrated into GLG. The designs are indeed rough and will be updated. We have made many edits to the site since you made this post and we will continue to update points as we go. The design of the said image will likely change too.


Well sure, nothing's wrong with them, other than a matter of aesthetic and professional. If a project had time to build their own ICO page, I concur they'll opt to go with their own professionally designed page, especially when every other things were not ready too, so there should be nothing to rush. So probably the question that should be addressed here beside the google form was: what rushes you bad? Especially with other things were not ready too, anyway.

There is no rush? We’re not even trying to raise money publicly as of yet? Our Private sale is capped and closed. The google form was used to track pledges. We’re going to use the google form for the public sale too as we are working off of a “pledge campaign”. Have you really never seen anything like this? We can even share some examples with you?


Wait... Were you trying to say your token sale were under SAFT?

No we are not. We used this as an example. This means you’ve likely not taken part in an OTC deal or SAFT. The private sale works a lot different to a public sale. Public investors will be buy tokens through the platform, private investors (early comers) deal directly with the CEO and legal team.


Bet2winasia? What's the other one? And when will this "team" released?

Have you seen our pitch deck? You can see all of this. The team should be live by Monday.
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Now that you have your answers - could you please remove the wrongfully allocated scam alert on our thread.
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Now that you have your answers - could you please remove the wrongfully allocated scam alert on our thread.

Not likely. That's not the way things work here!

1.) The photo is of course a photoshop however, just like many projects, we are finalizing our internal designs. Uniswap is open source code, it can be forked very easily. Sushiswap is a scam if you’re using this theory on other projects.

This still doesn't justify the stealing of someone else's intellectual property. Even if it's an Open Source project, it still doesn't mean that you can take someone else's work and present it as your own. Do you know how the Uniswap interface is licensed? Do you know what attribution means? Worst of all, you're still not admitting your wrongdoing, but trying to twist the facts.




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Let's see if I get this right, you don't have an appropriate platform, token, design, ico sale page (hence, the googleform), and god know what elses. So basically you only had an idea and a rough design, and instead of waiting for things to settle on their places, to be ready with better looks and preparation and ptofessionalism, you said, "ahh fuck it, lets just launch now and throw updates here and there later, we're urgently needed the money. Just take a screenshot at uniswap and photoshop them, we don't have time to hire someone to design UI." ?

And about forking... how does your answer related to forking an exchange (or swap) platform? You're on a gambling and betting service, you planned to provide a swap too?

Firstly, we definitely don’t need the money. We run two multi million dollar companies. These companies will be integrated into GLG. The designs are indeed rough and will be updated. We have made many edits to the site since you made this post and we will continue to update points as we go. The design of the said image will likely change too.

So why do you even attempted to held a private sale if you don't need money?


Well sure, nothing's wrong with them, other than a matter of aesthetic and professional. If a project had time to build their own ICO page, I concur they'll opt to go with their own professionally designed page, especially when every other things were not ready too, so there should be nothing to rush. So probably the question that should be addressed here beside the google form was: what rushes you bad? Especially with other things were not ready too, anyway.

There is no rush? We’re not even trying to raise money publicly as of yet? Our Private sale is capped and closed. The google form was used to track pledges. We’re going to use the google form for the public sale too as we are working off of a “pledge campaign”. Have you really never seen anything like this? We can even share some examples with you?

Capped and closed or failed and none raised? The "dedicated address" were the one on opening post? No ETH were sent to it. If any, some were withdrawn, why is it?

Wait... Were you trying to say your token sale were under SAFT?

No we are not. We used this as an example. This means you’ve likely not taken part in an OTC deal or SAFT. The private sale works a lot different to a public sale. Public investors will be buy tokens through the platform, private investors (early comers) deal directly with the CEO and legal team.

And the point of you raising topic about OTC and SAFT if you're not one of them were...?

Bet2winasia? What's the other one? And when will this "team" released?
Have you seen our pitch deck? You can see all of this. The team should be live by Monday.

Now that you have your answers - could you please remove the wrongfully allocated scam alert on our thread.

You're referring to your three pagers?  Yes, I have. Both your website and three pagers, to be exact, and none mentioned the second company. While for the first company itself, it's the reason why I got my reply delayed is because I've been waiting for them.

You see, I do my researches, and I found that bet2winasia were a subsidiary of global lottery group, not gaming, so there is a name difference between your project and the multimillion dollar company you claimed to be yours. Giving you benefit of the doubt, why is the name difference?



And, of course, I'm still patiently waiting for their reply to confirm you were indeed their parent company, which they haven't. And given you're here, certainly you can rush them to give me answer, as you're their owner

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November 30, 2020, 05:31:36 PM
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We did indeed get your email H... Dark... Ring a bell? You can ask them all the questions you need answers for, they are indeed a subsidiary of us and we will be intergrating our tech into their platform.

You can find our newly put together ANN thread for more clarification here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295061.msg55719305#msg55719305
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November 30, 2020, 05:51:15 PM
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We did indeed get your email H... Dark... Ring a bell? You can ask them all the questions you need answers for, they are indeed a subsidiary of us and we will be intergrating our tech into their platform.

You can find our newly put together ANN thread for more clarification here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295061.msg55719305#msg55719305

Yes, I do received it. I was undoing the accusation and composing a withdrawal statement as I spoke. I am sorry for the inconvenience, the statement will be ready in a short minute and will be posted below

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November 30, 2020, 06:14:40 PM
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I'd like to start with an apology for the situation happened due to me being too quick in concluding and reading the signs wrongly.

A few days ago, upon my own initiative, I tried to contact one website they listed as their subsidiary, "bet2winasia", to further check their legitimacy. I checked that the gambling platform were online since July 2019[1], stated their company license code (Global Lottery Group, Limited) that is verified as legal business entity, as well as their gambling license[2], and I concur that their statement and/or confirmation would help verify the legitimacy of GlobalLotteryGaming.

Bet2winasia replied to my email earlier today with a confirmation[3] that they indeed are affiliated with GLG and will soon integrate GLG's token into their platform. Thus, GLG's legitimacy is confirmed and backed by an existing gambling platform that is owned by a licensed company.

I would like to once again apologize for the misjudgement and inconvenient situation I made. As the suspicion and scam possibility were more or less negated by bet2winasia's claim, I hereby withdrew my accusation and flag. I am well aware that flag can not be deleted, however I hope that by deactivating them would restore their reputation.

I am also aware that raising false flag should bear consequences, and I hereby ready to receive whatever situation I have to bear for the false accusation.

I once again deeply apologize for the misunderstanding.

Some screenshot for easy view:

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[2]Unfortunately I can not verify this one as I didn't know any platform to perform such verification.

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November 30, 2020, 07:12:48 PM
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Support for the flag removed. I'm glad that we got to the bottom of this. Great job @holydarkness.

I still don't understand how a 'multimillion dollar company' is taking plagiarism and intellectual property theft so lightly? How is it acceptable for them to take a screenshot of someone else's platform and stick their logo over it and use it for their marketing purposes?

I guess hiring a professional graphic designer for a couple of hours was out of their budget.  Grin

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