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November 25, 2020, 02:21:10 PM |
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Trump just wrote on twitter :
I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused – and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA. Our case STRONGLY continues, we will keep up the good...
...fight, and I believe we will prevail! Nevertheless, in the best interest of our Country, I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my team to do the same.
If I understanding correctly it means that official transition will begin now.
Even the Trump campaign seems to acknowledge that this thing is over and they have no chance. The only reason to continue stringing along his supporters is probably a financial motive or maybe he thinks it puts him in a stronger position to have influence and control over the Republican party. It is time to move on and for betting markets to stop dragging their feet on this. Okay, so does this mean that the bookies does not wait anything anymore to grade bets, or have they grade the bets already? Twitter post seems not an official announcement though, so I think this is not what the bookies are looking for when grading bets. Cloudbet.com haven't payed out yet. |
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November 25, 2020, 02:52:36 PM |
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This time it is also a lot more complex that it goes this way. Trump will also not be quick to acknowledge his downfall and will do anything to win the election.
For his years in the presidency, people have seen enough of him and they were not happy, that's the reason why he loss in the election. Of course he already taste how sweet to be in power, he would not give up easily, but it's not him who speak for that, people will. I hope he doesn't win, he is also a very bad loser by the way.
He will not win, people know Biden got this already, an official announcement is the only thing they are waiting before grading bets out. The grading of the bets made on biden to win by bookies will happen if he concedes because the ones who have not paid out yet have a rule in the terms of the bets saying if he does not say "he lost" then they will not pay out until he most definitely has conceded the presidency. In essence saying that he had lost. But has instead said they will see it out in court. This is where many of the books who still not have paid are protected because they state in their rules before you place your bet if it goes to court then they will have to wait until they get the official result from these court cases. Pinnacle, Betfair, and those who affiliated with these books still have not paid out these winning bets yet and won't until probably January 20th when he has to step down even if he has not conceded/saying he has lost by then. This would be the very last date the bookies would need to settle their bets. |
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November 25, 2020, 04:03:26 PM |
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Trump's statements are so funny but the most curious and hilarious thing is that the USA is the major observatory of elections in other small countries their statements over elections has value but... Right now, USA states that election was stolen. Isn't this hilarious?  I think some sportsbooks are owned by the Trump Organization and they still think that election was stolen and the real winner is Mr Trump (joke). I think that in reality the casinos that were stated aren't in profit and they have a reason to wait for a while, they may wait until Trump will stop tweeting that he is the real winner and election was stolen. |
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November 25, 2020, 04:35:18 PM |
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Pinnacle, Betfair, and those who affiliated with these books still have not paid out these winning bets yet and won't until probably January 20th when he has to step down even if he has not conceded/saying he has lost by then.
This would be the very last date the bookies would need to settle their bets.
Absolutely pathetic. They should have informed all punters regarding this rule before the elections started since very few read the T&C due to how complicated they are. Am seriously surprised to see such top books and exchanges delay player winnings like this. Many books which are way less popular than them in comparison already paid out Biden bets even though they were aware of the risks. |
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November 25, 2020, 09:44:08 PM |
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Trump just wrote on twitter :
I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused – and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA. Our case STRONGLY continues, we will keep up the good...
...fight, and I believe we will prevail! Nevertheless, in the best interest of our Country, I am recommending that Emily and her team do what needs to be done with regard to initial protocols, and have told my team to do the same.
If I understanding correctly it means that official transition will begin now.
He literally wrote about continuing to fight right afterwards as well. This dude is basically doing what needs to be done officially but also goes to twitter to keep his fans angry and fighting just because he likes the attention. He can't just accept defeat when all of his image based on attention and getting showered with (pun intended) love. So, he will never concede, if you are expecting him to concede at any point of this, you are not going to like what you will see because that will not happen. What will happen is the fact that this election which had no fraud at all will make Biden the president, Trump will have to leave white house and become a regular citizen, and he will still go around the nation talking about how he was cheated out of office, even after we are well into Biden's presidency. You want to know something funny? When Biden's 4 year term ends and either he or someone else is president, Trump will still be saying he was cheated out of white house. I agree that he will probably never concede as he needs to keep the Trump cult going, however the tweet about letting the transition happen (and it's not just a tweet, he has really let the ball roll) is still him admitting that he isn't going to stay president. |
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November 25, 2020, 10:13:49 PM |
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Pinnacle, Betfair, and those who affiliated with these books still have not paid out these winning bets yet and won't until probably January 20th when he has to step down even if he has not conceded/saying he has lost by then.
This would be the very last date the bookies would need to settle their bets.
Absolutely pathetic. They should have informed all punters regarding this rule before the elections started since very few read the T&C due to how complicated they are. Am seriously surprised to see such top books and exchanges delay player winnings like this common sense says that until the election is certified, the results aren't official. i remember saying a couple months ago that any close election is gonna end up just like 2000, with weeks or even months of recounts, legal fights. on that note, a pennsylvania judge just halted election certification proceedings amidst the legal fight over mail-in votes. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-judge-halts-election-certification-mail-in-vote-lawsuitit would be one thing if the election were a landslide. since it wasn't......it ain't over until it's over. the silver lining here is that if you really believe biden is guaranteed to win, you can get all the free money you want at 1.05 odds. Many books which are way less popular than them in comparison already paid out Biden bets even though they were aware of the risks.
that's because they have far less financial exposure than larger books. they can afford it. betfair has to pay out $1.36 billion (and counting) in bets on this. what happens if they pay out and then the results are overturned? |
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November 26, 2020, 12:37:45 AM |
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Pinnacle, Betfair, and those who affiliated with these books still have not paid out these winning bets yet and won't until probably January 20th when he has to step down even if he has not conceded/saying he has lost by then.
This would be the very last date the bookies would need to settle their bets.
Absolutely pathetic. They should have informed all punters regarding this rule before the elections started since very few read the T&C due to how complicated they are. Am seriously surprised to see such top books and exchanges delay player winnings like this common sense says that until the election is certified, the results aren't official. i remember saying a couple months ago that any close election is gonna end up just like 2000, with weeks or even months of recounts, legal fights. on that note, a pennsylvania judge just halted election certification proceedings amidst the legal fight over mail-in votes. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-judge-halts-election-certification-mail-in-vote-lawsuitit would be one thing if the election were a landslide. since it wasn't......it ain't over until it's over. the silver lining here is that if you really believe biden is guaranteed to win, you can get all the free money you want at 1.05 odds. Many books which are way less popular than them in comparison already paid out Biden bets even though they were aware of the risks.
that's because they have far less financial exposure than larger books. they can afford it. betfair has to pay out $1.36 billion (and counting) in bets on this. what happens if they pay out and then the results are overturned? Well in this case the "common sense" as you say would be to offer a refund to bettors who don't want to wait several months. If there is an issue on an outcome the "common sense" is to cancel the bet, and not to keep players money for several months.  |
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November 26, 2020, 01:49:48 AM |
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Absolutely pathetic. They should have informed all punters regarding this rule before the elections started since very few read the T&C due to how complicated they are. Am seriously surprised to see such top books and exchanges delay player winnings like this common sense says that until the election is certified, the results aren't official. i remember saying a couple months ago that any close election is gonna end up just like 2000, with weeks or even months of recounts, legal fights. on that note, a pennsylvania judge just halted election certification proceedings amidst the legal fight over mail-in votes. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-judge-halts-election-certification-mail-in-vote-lawsuitThe court decision in Pennsylvania has no impact on the presidential race. They have already certified the results in favor of Biden and chosen electors. It will only have an impact on pending races which have not been certified. It is not likely that this will result in a decertification of the presidential race since the state supreme court has already thrown out other lawsuits attempting to invalidate hundreds of thousands of votes. |
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November 26, 2020, 08:12:14 AM |
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that's because they have far less financial exposure than larger books. they can afford it.
betfair has to pay out $1.36 billion (and counting) in bets on this. what happens if they pay out and then the results are overturned?
No book can probably afford to take a hit especially during these pandemic times in my opinion. They were willing to take risks and we're applauded for it while the big sites are being criticised for playing it too safe. At this point, it is literally impossible for the results to be overturned. All legal cases are being thrown out while the recounts changed nothing. This election shouldn't be compared to Gore vs Bush which was far closer in comparison while the vote margin is way higher here even though it isn't a landslide. |
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November 26, 2020, 12:07:42 PM |
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that's because they have far less financial exposure than larger books. they can afford it.
betfair has to pay out $1.36 billion (and counting) in bets on this. what happens if they pay out and then the results are overturned?
No book can probably afford to take a hit especially during these pandemic times in my opinion. They were willing to take risks and we're applauded for it while the big sites are being criticised for playing it too safe. At this point, it is literally impossible for the results to be overturned. All legal cases are being thrown out while the recounts changed nothing. This election shouldn't be compared to Gore vs Bush which was far closer in comparison while the vote margin is way higher here even though it isn't a landslide. I totally agree that this election is much more difficult than at any time in past years. I believe that the situation is still not certain, although the winner is already obvious, but due to the fact that Trump deliberately created a tense situation in any conflict places in order to create certain problems for Biden, the game will continue. |
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November 26, 2020, 04:56:20 PM |
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MyBookie [.] ag, another incredibly popular offshore fiat/crypto sportsbook has began paying out 2020 Election bets. Not only that, Trump bettors are getting their bets refunded as 3x rollover Freeplays. Should the results get overturned, Trump bettors will be paid in full. Source: https://twitter.com/mybookiebet/status/1331805130048614402 |
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November 26, 2020, 07:08:52 PM |
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You know there is no way Trump can make a comeback when even republican filled supreme court throws out his case. Plus he already started to make the transition of power process as well while still trying to claim he won, dude is basically doing one thing and saying another at this point. Which isn't shocking, this is trump we are talking about he is known to be a supreme liar himself.
In any case, for the people who would like to see Biden as president (because people who think trump will still win are too out of their minds) do not be worried, everything goes perfectly according to law, Biden IS the president elect and he is going to be president without any problems, if you are ever worried because of all the talks, remember they are all lies and there is nothing wrong.
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November 26, 2020, 07:09:15 PM |
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Well in this case the "common sense" as you say would be to offer a refund to bettors who don't want to wait several months. If there is an issue on an outcome the "common sense" is to cancel the bet, and not to keep players money for several months. no, common sense says that punters shouldn't place bets if they can't wait for official results. elections are not football games. they are a complex legal process. bookies can't take bets for many months (which affect the odds they pay out) and then just issue refunds to whoever wants one. that's crazy. they would risk insolvency. At this point, it is literally impossible for the results to be overturned. All legal cases are being thrown out while the recounts changed nothing. there are still multiple ongoing recounts and not all lawsuits have been thrown out. i agree it's extremely unlikely, but if it's literally impossible, you should place a bet on biden at 1.07 right now. why are you complaining here instead of grabbing all that free money? |
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aesma
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November 26, 2020, 08:19:49 PM |
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figmentofmyass : you still need a large amount of capital to really earn from that bet but OK, where can I take it ?
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November 26, 2020, 08:40:41 PM |
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Cloudbet.com is still not paying out.
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November 26, 2020, 11:19:09 PM |
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figmentofmyass : you still need a large amount of capital to really earn from that bet but OK, where can I take it ?
betfair still has biden at 1.07. https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.128151441according to nate silver's tweet from 8 hours ago, betting markets are still giving trump a >10% chance, although i'm not sure what books he's talking about. https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1331966432335302658as far as bitcoin sportsbooks go, i dunno where you can still make a bet. FTX trump tokens are still trading though. TRUMPGO (biden wins by february 1st) is trading at $0.889, implying 1.111 odds to back biden. https://ftx.com/en/trump-tokensif i had a poloniex or FTX account (and weren't in a prohibited jurisdiction) i'd probably take that trade right now. |
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November 27, 2020, 10:47:11 AM |
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Would that mean you can still bet on that odds now? I guess they are giving free money here... I never gamble in the site yet so I'm unfamiliar with it, but on a regular sportsbook, crypto sportsbook to specific, odds are not anymore available. |
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November 27, 2020, 11:54:46 AM |
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Would that mean you can still bet on that odds now? I guess they are giving free money here... I never gamble in the site yet so I'm unfamiliar with it, but on a regular sportsbook, crypto sportsbook to specific, odds are not anymore available. I believe that is an error because most betting sites have paid out to winner and have long got it done with the US election, but some that have withhold payment to winners due to legal letigation between the two contestant's. We await the outcome |
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aesma
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November 27, 2020, 04:07:22 PM |
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I had to use a VPN to check, but indeed it's legit. On the blue column people have bet for Biden to the tune of about 5 million pounds, and enough people have bet enough money on other candidates (even ones that really can't happen like Michelle Obama) to yield 5% for a Biden win. Not sure what the columns more to the right are. |
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