Report flagged as bad by mistake?

[GazetaBitcoin]

Hello,

I think I have a post flagged as bad by mistake by a moderator. The post was made by user DrWho42 inside the Share Good Movies Please? topic.

Doggie Woggiez, Poochie Woochiez (2012)

I reported this post as it does not the rule stated in OP:

Edit: since October 6th, 2020, please mention the movies only in the following format:

Movie title - year - genre - imdb link

Example:

Seven Pounds - 2008 - Drama - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0814314

I discussed with topic's author (peter0425) for this rule a while ago and we both agreed it was necessary such a rule for avoiding spam and also for having more information about the movies other users suggest. After the rule was implemented, I reported all the posts which did not respect the rule and all reports have been flagged as good, excepting this one. All the reports had this reference text: "Breaking rule stated in OP.".

Was the post flagged bad by mistake?

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[LoyceV]

Was the post flagged bad by mistake?

Maybe. I've sometimes had reports marked as "bad" while I disagree with it. When in doubt, you can try reporting it again.
If you're worried about your report accuracy, remember this: "Do not worry about your accuracy too much".

Out of thousands of reports I'm sometimes wrong, and I can't blame Mods for making mistakes sometimes too.

On second thought:

I reported this post as it does not the rule stated in OP:

I don't think not following the exact format makes it off-topic. If OP wanted that, he could have made the thread self-moderated.
I'd let it go, then again, I barely visit the Off-topic board anyway.

[Csmiami]

The only thing I see missing from the local rule is the genre; so maybe the mod handling the report deemed it not to be such a big thing. Even if the link is embedded in the text instead of in a separate space

[Rikafip]

On second thought:

I reported this post as it does not the rule stated in OP:

I don't think not following the exact format makes it off-topic. If OP wanted that, he could have made the thread self-moderated.
I'd let it go, then again, I barely visit the Off-topic board anyway.

Thing is, @GazetaBitcoin stated  that he previously reported similar posts that were not following the format, and all those posts were deleted so far. That's why he assumed this was a mistake, not deleting it even though it obviously doesn't follow the format.

I reported the post too, lets see what happens.

Imho, since Movie thread is in Off-Topic board which attracts  spammers, more elegant solution would be to open new self-moderated thread and then you can set strict rules and just remove all those not following them. It's the best way to keep thread under control and free from mindless spam.

[GazetaBitcoin]

When in doubt, you can try reporting it again.

Thx for the suggestion! I was wondering if this report can be changed from Bad to Good though, without making another report... and risking having that one flagged as bad also.

On second thought:

I reported this post as it does not the rule stated in OP:

I don't think not following the exact format makes it off-topic. If OP wanted that, he could have made the thread self-moderated.

Uhm... But I didn't report the post for being off-topic. I reported it for "Breaking rule stated in OP. (meaning not respecting the posting format rule from the OP; and this is the same reference I wrote for all other good reports on this topic).

If OP wanted that, he could have made the thread self-moderated.

I discussed with topic's author prior stating the new rule in the OP if we should create a new topic from scratch, self-moderated, or if we should keep this one and report all posts not respecting the rule. And we decided to keep this topic, as it has already a history, it contains many suggested movies and many users know the topic already... That's why we kept this topic instead of creating a new, self-moderated one.

I'd let it go, then again, I barely visit the Off-topic board anyway.

Most likely I'll do the same... But if a mod would be kind enough to pop in the conversation and explain the situation, it would be great. I'm just curious, that's all...

The only thing I see missing from the local rule is the genre; so maybe the mod handling the report deemed it not to be such a big thing. Even if the link is embedded in the text instead of in a separate space

Well, this is why rules exist: to be respected... Now if this post remains there and my report remains bad, this would create a precedent for others which would avoid posting in the stated rule, right?

Thing is, @GazetaBitcoin stated  that he previously reported similar posts that were not following the format, and all those posts were deleted so far. That's why he assumed this was a mistake, not deleting it even though it obviously doesn't follow the format.

Yes, this is what I meant.

I reported the post too, lets see what happens.

Thx, Rikafip!

Imho, since Movie thread is in Off-Topic board which attracts  spammers, more elegant solution would be to open new self-moderated thread

Indeed... But, as I explained above, the topic has some history already and we thought it would be nice to keep it, if we report the posts not following the format and, of course, if the mods collaborate with us, as they did until now...

[hilariousetc]

I didn't handle it but if you want to have a local rule it needs to be in place before you create the thread as doing it retroactively isn't fair. Personally I think these sorts of issues would be best handled with self-modded threads and you can mod them how you like as mods shouldn't really have to mod someone else's thread and keep up with the rules that person has set. Also, regarding that thread the OP should edit the title to give more info as stating share good movies is very vague and of course is going to lead to people sharing any movies when it's not stipulated in the title. Kinda wish theymos would implement something where you can sticky a message in the first post of every thread or the first post is there at the top like is on some forums as a reminder. Would help to keep things on topic and not let them stray too far off topic.

[OcTradism]

Multiple reports can be made on the same post, by same user or by different users.

All reports can be handled by a same moderator who is responsible for the board in which that post was made. If a board has multiple moderators, different reports on the same post can be handled by different moderators and results can be different (good or bad).

Sometimes if global moderator handles same report and result can be the same as local moderators or be different.

From report guideline of Welsh, submit enough reference and context for your reports can help.

Moderators get their payments for their works, report handling is one of their works. Without your reports, they have less works to do so if you have decent reasons to report or report again, please do it.

[Upgrade00]

I can't find the post in question anymore on the thread, but checking the profile on bpip there seems to be no post of the user deleted by the mods, so it's likely that they deleted the posts themselves.

I reported the post too, lets see what happens.

What is the current status of your report?

Moderators get their payments for their works, report handling is one of their works. Without your reports, they have less works to do so if you have decent reasons to report or report again, please do it.

Moderators actually have more work without reports as they'll have to manually check al.threads for rule breakers. Reporting is the community's way of helping out in keeping the forum clean.

[Rikafip]

Indeed... But, as I explained above, the topic has some history already and we thought it would be nice to keep it, if we report the posts not following the format and, of course, if the mods collaborate with us, as they did until now..[-

Yeah I understand it has sentimental value for you since thread has been going on for some time and you are active there, but these things will keep happening, people not following the rules then you have to hassle with reports  and as we can see occasionally it will be marked as bad. But I guess you will have to live with it if you wanna keep the thread.

I can't find the post in question anymore on the thread, but checking the profile on bpip there seems to be no post of the user deleted by the mods, so it's likely that they deleted the posts themselves.

What is the current status of your report?

Report is marked as "Good" so that means mods deleted it, from the 2nd try, but at least post is gone now.

Kinda wish theymos would implement something where you can sticky a message in the first post of every thread or the first post is there at the top like is on some forums as a reminder. Would help to keep things on topic and not let them stray too far off topic.

Something like that would be good to have. It wouldn't completely sort similar issues as people sometimes just don't care what's are the rules and they are just there to dump their post and move on, but it would be help nevertheless.

[GazetaBitcoin]

Report is marked as "Good" so that means mods deleted it, from the 2nd try, but at least post is gone now.

Thank you for the help, Rikafip.

However, my report appears now as deleted (having the strikethrough font), but it's still flagged as Bad. Why?



Can it be changed to Good by the mod who handled it? Or by hilariousandco, given the fact that he is Global Moderator...? Maybe a mod can't change the status of a handled report though... but maybe hilarious is able to do that...

Yeah I understand it has sentimental value for you since thread has been going on for some time and you are active there, but these things will keep happening, people not following the rules then you have to hassle with reports  and as we can see occasionally it will be marked as bad. But I guess you will have to live with it you wanna keep the thread.

I'll try to talk again with OP's author and see what to do... I'd prefer though to keep this topic...

[hilariousetc]

Report is marked as "Good" so that means mods deleted it, from the 2nd try, but at least post is gone now.

Thank you for the help, Rikafip.

However, my report appears now as deleted (having the strikethrough font), but it's still flagged as Bad. Why?



Can it be changed to Good by the mod who handled it? Or by hilariousandco, given the fact that he is Global Moderator...? Maybe a mod can't change the status of a handled report though... but maybe hilarious is able to do that...

If the post was deleted it won't change the report if it's already been handled. Only admins can change the status of the report but I wouldn't bother them with it as nobody is going to care about one report. In fact, you could even argue that the report was correctly marked bad as if the local rules of the thread aren't stated with the creation of the thread then they shouldn't be enforced. Either way I wouldn't care about it.

[Upgrade00]

Report is marked as "Good" so that means mods deleted it, from the 2nd try, but at least post is gone now.

Doesn't have to mean it was deleted by the mods, IIRC, mods would mark reports as good if an action has been taken before they checked it. So if they got your report and on looking up the post it was already deleted by another mod or the OP (which was what you requested), they would assume it was a good report and mark it as such, rather than leaving it unhandled.

I have once mistakenly reported a post to be moved to a certain section which it was already in at the time of making the report and it was marked as good.

[Lucius]

Only admins can change the status of the report but I wouldn't bother them with it as nobody is going to care about one report.

I also had a situation where the report was marked as bad, although it was a very obvious mistake of whoever handled the report (it was a referral link). I contacted the moderator in charge of that board, and he deleted the ref link, but of course the report still remained marked as bad. I have to admit that I was not aware that only admin/s can change that status. This is good information for all those who find themselves in a similar situation, and I think that in most cases there is no need to burden admins with such things.

[hilariousetc]

Only admins can change the status of the report but I wouldn't bother them with it as nobody is going to care about one report.

I also had a situation where the report was marked as bad, although it was a very obvious mistake of whoever handled the report (it was a referral link). I contacted the moderator in charge of that board, and he deleted the ref link, but of course the report still remained marked as bad. I have to admit that I was not aware that only admin/s can change that status. This is good information for all those who find themselves in a similar situation, and I think that in most cases there is no need to burden admins with such things.

Mods handle thousands of reports a month so occasionally ones will be incorrectly marked though it will be fairly rare. I remember one time back when I was a reporter I had one marked incorrectly as bad and BadBear did manage to sort it for me and get it changed but it honestly doesn't matter really unless you're going for a perfect 100% or something. I think theymos has mentioned before that anything over 80% is considered very good so one or two bad reports or incorrectly marked bad reports really isn't going to make a difference.

[philipma1957]

Only admins can change the status of the report but I wouldn't bother them with it as nobody is going to care about one report.

I also had a situation where the report was marked as bad, although it was a very obvious mistake of whoever handled the report (it was a referral link). I contacted the moderator in charge of that board, and he deleted the ref link, but of course the report still remained marked as bad. I have to admit that I was not aware that only admin/s can change that status. This is good information for all those who find themselves in a similar situation, and I think that in most cases there is no need to burden admins with such things.

Mods handle thousands of reports a month so occasionally ones will be incorrectly marked though it will be fairly rare. I remember one time back when I was a reporter I had one marked incorrectly as bad and BadBear did manage to sort it for me and get it changed but it honestly doesn't matter really unless you're going for a perfect 100% or something. I think theymos has mentioned before that anything over 80% is considered very good so one or two bad reports or incorrectly marked bad reports really isn't going to make a difference.

  I am about 700 good and 10 bad. Yet every bad I get pisses me off so much that it is quite remarkable even to myself. .

I don’t complain to the mod that marked it bad. As I realize I could be wrong. But ego is funny that way.

@ op I feel you about this topic.

[LoyceV]

Yet every bad I get pisses me off so much that it is quite remarkable even to myself. .

I always wonder what exactly I typed for the bad report. Unfortunately I can't see that anymore, and I report too many posts to remember everything.
My latest bad report was on this post. I'm pretty sure I reported it because it's a duplicate of this post, which isn't allowed:

12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting it in the local language boards if it's translated).

You can have a duplicate thread in both the bitcoin and alt coin marketplaces obviously providing they accept the relevant currencies, if that's what's happened here.

Thanks, that explains it.

You can always PM a Global mod at the time and ask them what the report was marked bad for.

I don't want to create more work for them for the few bad reports I get.

[hilariousetc]

I always wonder what exactly I typed for the bad report. Unfortunately I can't see that anymore, and I report too many posts to remember everything.
My latest bad report was on this post. I'm pretty sure I reported it because it's a duplicate of this post, which isn't allowed:

12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting it in the local language boards if it's translated).

You can have a duplicate thread in both the bitcoin and alt coin marketplaces obviously providing they accept the relevant currencies, if that's what's happened here. You can always PM a Global mod at the time and ask them what the report was marked bad for.

I am about 700 good and 10 bad. Yet every bad I get pisses me off so much that it is quite remarkable even to myself. .

I don’t complain to the mod that marked it bad. As I realize I could be wrong. But ego is funny that way.

Damn. I'd suggest maybe not reporting things if it makes you irate or only reporting things you know to be 100% correct as there are a lot of grey areas and things that are completely subjective. . Like I said above, you can always PM a mod to try find out. I think it would be helpful if staff could state the reason why it was marked bad on the report.

[Lucius]

I am about 700 good and 10 bad. Yet every bad I get pisses me off so much that it is quite remarkable even to myself. .
I don’t complain to the mod that marked it bad. As I realize I could be wrong. But ego is funny that way.

I only have 7 bad reports, - but that doesn't worry me as much as the number of unhandled reports that are many times higher. I can come to terms with the fact that something is good or bad, but when something stays in the air forever then it leaves doubt as to why such a report was never processed.

Yet everyone who handles reports are just people who can make mistakes, and the question has often been asked if we have too few mods given the number of reported posts - although I believe the situation is much better now than it was 3-4 years ago.

[GazetaBitcoin]

If the post was deleted it won't change the report if it's already been handled. Only admins can change the status of the report but I wouldn't bother them with it as nobody is going to care about one report. In fact, you could even argue that the report was correctly marked bad as if the local rules of the thread aren't stated with the creation of the thread then they shouldn't be enforced. Either way I wouldn't care about it.

OK, I understand, thank you for explaining. Indeed, 1 report won't make the difference. What was important here was if the mod allegedly marked it as bad or if it was by mistake. If it was allegedly, it would have created a precedent for other reports inside that topic. But since Rikafip reported the same post and it was deleted, it seems it was just a mistake, so no worries

I only have 7 bad reports, - but that doesn't worry me as much as the number of unhandled reports that are many times higher. I can come to terms with the fact that something is good or bad, but when something stays in the air forever then it leaves doubt as to why such a report was never processed.

I share the same feeling. I have by now an accuracy of 95% accuracy (7929 good and 469 bad). But also 1838 unhandled, which is an enormous amount.

@ op I feel you about this topic.

Hehe, thanks