Try to track stolen bitcoins

[Nofearboy]

Yesterday , in Bucharest i meet 2 guys they wanted to buy 1.5 btc with cash . We meet in a bar and when we waited for transaction confirmation they run away . i was able to catch one and called the police and start a prosecuter interogation etc.
The other one transfered the money few time but i don't know exactly where money was send becouse they ended in this moment in a big wallet , maybe a excenge or sommeting.
Maybe sommeone from here help me with some details .

64fb3396b8f5a105734d10eedabc5c4aa58fba6e8dea8b4f6b78a68471a51d68     transaction i bought from binance
2c2d966b5012732a301196ef66214f0d80d8a53980cbff59ead6a6a36e47ca24     transaction when i sent the money to thief

wallet of the thef 1MhAywXcTF78eWVttBsVawSUZyhc53DMkf
thef moved from firt addres to this address 1Cw2TaFu25NiEDJctaLf41JRRkqqwntt6v
end maybe in this address but not sure 1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s

If sommeone can tell me more or how i can track i will thank you very much.

[PawGo]

Do you have a proof that you reported it to the police?
I am not sure if there is anything YOU may do, but maybe police may contact chipmixers to ask if address belongs to them. If he left his IP it will be easier to find him. It will be difficult because probably it will be an international operation so it will require cooperation on different levels. Good luck anyway...

[AdolfinWolf]

wallet of the thef 1MhAywXcTF78eWVttBsVawSUZyhc53DMkf
thef moved from firt addres to this address 1Cw2TaFu25NiEDJctaLf41JRRkqqwntt6v
end maybe in this address but not sure 1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s

Hmmm. I haven't done any extensive analysis on this, i merely pulled the addresses through walletexplorer, and it seems that 1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s might belong to binance?

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Binance.com?from_address=1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s

Again - uncertain how accurate this data is, and of course if your bitcoins are still on the exchange at all.

Even if this is where your bitcoin has ended up, - it'll most likely still be next to impossible to get them back without something such as a court order, so don't get your hopes up.

[Csmiami]

Just for the sake of clarification; I actually had to read OP a few times before I realized what had actually happened.

You contacted or were contacted by someone (the 2 guys) that wanted to buy 1.5BTC in cash. 23.000USD in cash. I'm pretty sure that's rather ilegall and goes against many anti moeny laundering regulations, but that's not the point here.

You bought some BTC (1.52033000), and met with the guys.

You sent the guys the coins, and they ran away both with the coins and the 23k.

Is this part right so far?
Because there are a couple of things that don't match to your story. First of all, let me say that I'm calling you a liar, but there are a couple of things that stand out and require some clarification. Let's see...

You bought the 1.52033000BTC on the 10th of November at 10:00AM, and sent them to 12o7wnUF574txi3jGBxBM6cgPxc69xAFZW

From 12o7wnUF574txi3jGBxBM6cgPxc69xAFZW, the coins were sent to both 1HU46MCbGcZ3huKLGBPjtpHUP6bjaad6ep (your address) and 1MhAywXcTF78eWVttBsVawSUZyhc53DMkf. Same day, but at 10:25AM

You then sent the coins to 1MhAywXcTF78eWVttBsVawSUZyhc53DMkf, which is the scammers account and then they ran away. That happened at ALSO at 10:25AM.

So the problems with this timeline are the following:

-You sent money twice (?) to the thieves address
-Only 25 minutes happened between the operation in which you bought the coins and when you were robbed.

So... did you meet this guys to sell BTC, or did they offer you a price for using your binance account to buy them some coins? It's just odd that the time lapse is that small, and well, the fact the you sent money twice is also strange.

As a side note, no; there's not much you can do to track them down. Your only chance is to get in contact with authorities so that they get in touch with binance and see if a ring bells; but while doing this, I'm pretty sure you'd be incriminating yourself in a couple of felonies too....

[Joel_Jantsen]

As @AdolfinWolf said, the coins seem to have stuck in Binance and there is nothing you can do about it unless you report your case to the police, and get an official letter from them which can be submitted to the Binance support to hold the funds. Better yet, ask the police team to get in touch with the Binance support.

On a side note, if you caught one of them, it shouldn't be that hard to find his partner especially when police are doing the interrogations.

[Nofearboy]

I sent the money in euro Sepa to binance on 9 monday . and i didnt wanted to buy becouse of the fluctuation and when the guy called me/10 thusday / to meet with 1 hour befour i changed in Binance the euro to bitcoin . with maybe 20 minutes befour meet i send the money from binance wallet to my wallet /blockhain info wallet.At the table with them i wayted a little to see the BTC transfered from my binance account to my Blockchain wallet. After few minutes i transferet to them .

First guy invoqued a family call and  exit  away after i sent the money to theyr wallet . they put the receiver phone on the table ..their phone ...was a iphone with a jaxx live wallet where you can see the balance you can enter without password in aplication but if you want to send them back the aplication have password ...so nothing you can do to revert .

the second told me don't worry the money are here on phone on the table  ...as i allready told the first guy left to make a call and the second wanted to go quick to hospital becouse one relative have problems etc but they told me they will come back quick ..and don;t warry the phone is one the table.

Befour the meeting the second guy had the money on him becouse we been to a exchange office and check the money are ok and not false but maybe was a 3 -rth person becouse after he went to toilet i think the money dissaperead . when the police got him the was not money in his posesion.

I left with him , he was agresive verbal to get ride of me but my luck was a police patrol and we went to police etc...made statsment etc. 3-4 hour , the case was taken by a prosecutor etc..
The  guy who left first was the mastermind the guy who went with me to police was the muscle becouse he revealed everithing , the transfer , everithing . He try to invoke he don;t know the second guy ..

The reason i write here is that i hope the firt "smart guy" to try to exhange the money sommewhre and maybe there to have a chance.

I realise i have very little chance to recover money but i hope , is the only thing i can do.

[LoyceV]

the first guy left to make a call and the second wanted to go quick to hospital becouse one relative have problems etc but they told me they will come back quick

You made so many mistakes believing all this BS. When unsure, follow your gut feeling. How can this not raise red flags?

[bob123]

Did you properly report it to the police? Did they determine the identity of one of the thieves?
If so, your chances of getting your money (in your local currency, not BTC) back is still possible.

I doubt you will be able to get the identity of the person depositing the coins to binance. I mean, the possibility still exists, but i doubt your local police would be competent enough for that to achieve.

Trading 1.5 BTC for cash seems like a bad idea^TM tho.

[Nofearboy]

Now i realized how stupid i was/am.Yes . They interogate that guy .  . The prosecutor told me they will sure identify the second guy.
Now i wait. Exactly as you said for the police crypto is new and dont know if they can follow the Btc.
Thank u for all your responses i feel a little better when i share with sommeone

[keychainX]

Now i realized how stupid i was/am.Yes . They interogate that guy .  . The prosecutor told me they will sure identify the second guy.
Now i wait. Exactly as you said for the police crypto is new and dont know if they can follow the Btc.
Thank u for all your responses i feel a little better when i share with sommeone

1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s definitely is owned by Binance. You should issue a ticket to support together with the police report. Binance support is pretty good.

[thom88]

the first guy left to make a call and the second wanted to go quick to hospital becouse one relative have problems etc but they told me they will come back quick

You made so many mistakes believing all this BS. When unsure, follow your gut feeling. How can this not raise red flags?

Thats what I was wondering. The moment you trade BTC with cash, the entire alerting system of your mind and body should be running on 100%. Just due to the fact that you do such a deal. Adding the amount of Cash involved, makes it even more true any even slightest flag, may it be just yellow, back away from the deal as legitimate people, NEVER give you flags.

[LoyceV]

1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s definitely is owned by Binance. You should issue a ticket to support together with the police report. Binance support is pretty good.

If they're really dumb, they've sold the coins and withdrawn the fiat to their own bank account.
If they're any smart, they've used Binance's 2BTC per day no KYC ability to exchange to Monero and you'll never see your coins again.

[bob123]

If they're any smart, they've used Binance's 2BTC per day no KYC ability to exchange to Monero and you'll never see your coins again.

Not necessary.
He might not get his BTC back through contacting binance, but maybe by filing a police report.

If they succeed in finding the other person and file a claim, he will at least have the possibility to get the $ equivalent of his BTC at that day back.

[Chikito]

1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s definitely is owned by Binance. You should issue a ticket to support together with the police report. Binance support is pretty good.

that address has 24 times reported, I think they wouldn't surprise to receive 25th complaint.

[Nofearboy]

I called the police contact becouse i can't talk direct with the  prosecutor and i told them about binance and send them again the hash of the transaction by mail . Maybe binance will reveal the identiti or block the money

[Nofearboy]

I thought after i send them the money they transfer to theyr second wallet but in the second wallet is to much activity  and i think is a exhange or mixer that use binance in the end .
maybe sommeone know sommething abiout this addresses

13Tf6HCveJWZg6athQu2eqvw6rVBcfRfqY
and
1Cw2TaFu25NiEDJctaLf41JRRkqqwntt6v

[AmoreJaz]

I thought after i send them the money they transfer to theyr second wallet but in the second wallet is to much activity  and i think is a exhange or mixer that use binance in the end .
maybe sommeone know sommething abiout this addresses

13Tf6HCveJWZg6athQu2eqvw6rVBcfRfqY
and
1Cw2TaFu25NiEDJctaLf41JRRkqqwntt6v

based from wallet explorer, it seemed those 2 addys are owned by an exchange. and looking at the history, a lot of money come and go in these addresses. so maybe they were already doing this scheme to others.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1Cw2TaFu25NiEDJctaLf41JRRkqqwntt6v
https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/13Tf6HCveJWZg6athQu2eqvw6rVBcfRfqY

the reality is they may have already converted your coin to monero just like what others are saying. and if those thieves didnt submit kyc, would be hard to track down.
just wondering based on OP's reg here in the forum, you are a newbie but been here in the forum since 2016, so am assuming you should have known this kind of illegal activity already. i hope thats the last one that you will experience and be more careful next time in dealing with strangers. in terms of recovering your coins, dont think you will get back the coins. an expensive lesson here.

[Joel_Jantsen]

I thought after i send them the money they transfer to theyr second wallet but in the second wallet is to much activity  and i think is a exhange or mixer that use binance in the end .
maybe sommeone know sommething abiout this addresses

The police authorities literally have one criminal with them, if you don't expect the police authorities to find his friend, you shouldn't expect the community will be able to find anything with those transaction addresses. Rather, try to reach out to higher authorities who could be able to solve your case competitively.

[Chikito]

maybe sommeone know sommething abiout this addresses

13Tf6HCveJWZg6athQu2eqvw6rVBcfRfqY
and
1Cw2TaFu25NiEDJctaLf41JRRkqqwntt6v

you have tracking self >
- https://bitcoinwhoswho.com/address/1Cw2TaFu25NiEDJctaLf41JRRkqqwntt6v
- https://bitcoinwhoswho.com/address/13Tf6HCveJWZg6athQu2eqvw6rVBcfRfqY
see Transaction History and you will find Bitcointalk thread > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2617681.0

[Nofearboy]

Stolen bitcoin ended in 1NDyJtNTjmwk5xPNhjgAMu4HDHigtobu1s  wallet ,  a BINANCE.COM wallet . They have a tweet in with they recognize this address belong to them.
The Police send them mail to reveal the entity behind the tranzaction and they don't respond after 2 months.
I realised the  stolen bitcoins from all the world can be exchanged at Binance without ptoblem.
Don't understant why Eu let them operate if they don't colaborate with autorities.