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November 12, 2020, 05:51:17 AM
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Comedy news.

Is this a chainsplit or is this nothing but one of the blockexplorers' nodes went down because they depend on a datacenter similar to Infura to run their nodes?



There was a possible ETH chain split at block 11234873. Etherscan and Blockchair are showing two different chains and data after this block. We’re resolving now but have temporarily closed withdrawals. Funds are #SAFU.

Source https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1326456255515250693

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November 12, 2020, 06:04:55 AM
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This is the first time I see a split chain, is this because Ethereum 2.0 ethereum network is disrupted?
And why do you say that this is comedy news? This is bad news, if this continues to happen on the Ethereum network,
of course it will interfere with transaction activity on the Ethereum blockchain.

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November 12, 2020, 06:09:03 AM
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Comedy news.

Is this a chainsplit or is this nothing but one of the blockexplorers' nodes went down because they depend on a datacenter similar to Infura to run their nodes?



There was a possible ETH chain split at block 11234873. Etherscan and Blockchair are showing two different chains and data after this block. We’re resolving now but have temporarily closed withdrawals. Funds are #SAFU.

Source https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1326456255515250693

I saw that some of the services of infura were affected and I thought it was more of a technical hitch on infura side but never expected a possible split chain , whatever that maybe . Can someone explain me  on what event it may have .

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November 12, 2020, 06:19:46 AM
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The thing is that it is unannounced or unintended hard fork, Lol, this is one of the worst disaster, I don't know how Ethereum could make this unintended hard fork to begin with. And so with others like Infura who remain in the 'minority' chain, hence it's a big messed right now.

Here is the post-mortem report:

https://blog.infura.io/infura-mainnet-outage-post-mortem-2020-11-11/

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Why was Infura running geth (v1.9.9) and (v1.9.13) when the latest version is (v1.9.23)?

In the early days of Infura we would upgrade nodes as soon as the Geth or Parity teams cut a new release. We wanted the latest performance improvements, the latest API methods, and of course bug fixes. We stopped doing that when these changes sometimes brought instability or critical breaking issues which negatively impacted our users. Sometimes it was a syncing bug, a change in peering behavior that caused unforeseen issues within our infrastructure, or a slight modification to the JSON-RPC behavior that forced a developer to make changes to their application. No software is bug free and not every release can go according to plan. Thus the decision we made was that stability was more important than tracking the latest client version to get features and performance tweaks. Because of this, we began to be more frugal with our update schedule. We do our best to give developers a stable API to develop against. Any changes to the API we communicate well in advance to give our users time to make the necessary modifications to their applications.

We run a custom patched version of Geth we internally call “Omnibus” which includes several performance, stability, and monitoring enhancements tailored to our cloud native architecture. While this complicates the update process for us compared to running a vanilla Geth version, the benefits have been worthwhile and we aim to be transparent with the version we run. It is available both at https://forkmon.ethdevops.io and via our JSON-RPC API:

Because of the concerns mentioned earlier about stability, backwards compatibility, and complexity of patch management, we are very explicit and deliberate when we update our nodes. When there is a known consensus bug, we of course would update immediately. In this instance however, we were not aware of a consensus issue with Geth v1.9.9 and v1.9.13.

One particularly painful thing for us about this outage was that we were very close to updating to a client version that would have avoided this incident. We had scheduled an update for earlier this month which we ended up postponing to ensure that users had more time to update and prepare for the changes and we could guarantee the stability of the upgrade.

In any case, the root cause was identified and I do hope that this kind of issues will be prevented in the future. And at least the community was very quick to notice and report it, and CZ even halted the withdrawal before everything has settled down.

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November 12, 2020, 06:47:28 AM
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I don't know why this was the moment, but everything was resolved after that. And it has no effect on the price of ETH, even if you think it is growing too fast and under attack. I realize that Ethereum has many things to talk about in the near future, when eth 2.0 is coming soon and this is the news that is mainly affecting the overall growth of the market.
I think Ethereum's price was moving up too fast so infura was attacked.

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November 13, 2020, 04:56:20 AM
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The thing is that it is unannounced or unintended hard fork, Lol, this is one of the worst disaster, I don't know how Ethereum could make this unintended hard fork to begin with. And so with others like Infura who remain in the 'minority' chain, hence it's a big messed right now.

Here is the post-mortem report:

https://blog.infura.io/infura-mainnet-outage-post-mortem-2020-11-11/

Quote
Why was Infura running geth (v1.9.9) and (v1.9.13) when the latest version is (v1.9.23)?

In the early days of Infura we would upgrade nodes as soon as the Geth or Parity teams cut a new release. We wanted the latest performance improvements, the latest API methods, and of course bug fixes. We stopped doing that when these changes sometimes brought instability or critical breaking issues which negatively impacted our users. Sometimes it was a syncing bug, a change in peering behavior that caused unforeseen issues within our infrastructure, or a slight modification to the JSON-RPC behavior that forced a developer to make changes to their application. No software is bug free and not every release can go according to plan. Thus the decision we made was that stability was more important than tracking the latest client version to get features and performance tweaks. Because of this, we began to be more frugal with our update schedule. We do our best to give developers a stable API to develop against. Any changes to the API we communicate well in advance to give our users time to make the necessary modifications to their applications.

We run a custom patched version of Geth we internally call “Omnibus” which includes several performance, stability, and monitoring enhancements tailored to our cloud native architecture. While this complicates the update process for us compared to running a vanilla Geth version, the benefits have been worthwhile and we aim to be transparent with the version we run. It is available both at https://forkmon.ethdevops.io and via our JSON-RPC API:

Because of the concerns mentioned earlier about stability, backwards compatibility, and complexity of patch management, we are very explicit and deliberate when we update our nodes. When there is a known consensus bug, we of course would update immediately. In this instance however, we were not aware of a consensus issue with Geth v1.9.9 and v1.9.13.

One particularly painful thing for us about this outage was that we were very close to updating to a client version that would have avoided this incident. We had scheduled an update for earlier this month which we ended up postponing to ensure that users had more time to update and prepare for the changes and we could guarantee the stability of the upgrade.

In any case, the root cause was identified and I do hope that this kind of issues will be prevented in the future. And at least the community was very quick to notice and report it, and CZ even halted the withdrawal before everything has settled down.

There should be no wishing for I hope. This should have never occured. However, Ethereum is very lucky that only Defi and ICO use the platform.

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November 13, 2020, 07:23:27 AM
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I think Ethereum's price was moving up too fast so infura was attacked.
I thought it was just Infura didn't update to the latest patch or something so there's no deliberate attack? or I'm just missing something? Good thing though is that this big issues didn't cause any dent on the price surprisingly. So we might bee in the bull run because negative news doesn't affect the market. So any update though? everything back to normal now?  Smiley
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November 13, 2020, 09:11:35 AM
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All the announcements and news i've seen have been saying "infra infra". However, that would mean it's centralized.

However, maybe some protocol on infra level failed, or some update was pushed to all nodes that caused a hiccup? I guess they'll never release details like that publicly
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