Innosilicon A10 Pro+

[philipma1957]

The current eth hash rate is at about 290th


 https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate

that is just under the all-time high of 294.9th

Buying a unit with only 6gb that can only mine eth as etc slightly fucked with its algo, means it (a10) bricks if mining goes on and passes 6gb like it did 4gb.

Buying 8gb mining cards don't brick as fast since 8gb takes longer to pass then 6gb. They can be resold

So buying an eth asic miner is not a great choice.  Basically you can not do anything with it it has zero flexibility and it does not blow away gpu cards.

if my 3 card 3080 gpu rig does 275mh and pulls 720 watts almost silently  it  cost me under 2600 to build it.

do I really need a 500mh asic pulling 950 watts loudly?

cost is 4388 if you can get one  add shipping and trump tax or vat. well over 5000 more like 5500
no longer 3 year warranty no resale like a gpu resale
500 x 3 = 15 dollars a day or 292 days with free power to break even.

so I can build 2 three card rigs for 5200
and mine 550mh at 1500 watts

vs 1 asic rig at 5500
and mine 500 mh at 920 watts

3 year warranty vs   6 month bs warranty

[miner29]

I want to be clear i was not advocating buying asics...was simply stating that it may be that the nearly 50% higher power usage may explain how they are getting 720mhs at 1300W vs 500mhs as 900w.

I wouldnt recommend asics like this to anyone.

[batsonxl]

The current eth hash rate is at about 290th


 https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate

that is just under the all-time high of 294.9th

Buying a unit with only 6gb that can only mine eth as etc slightly fucked with its algo, means it (a10) bricks if mining goes on and passes 6gb like it did 4gb.

Buying 8gb mining cards don't brick as fast since 8gb takes longer to pass then 6gb. They can be resold

So buying an eth asic miner is not a great choice.  Basically you can not do anything with it it has zero flexibility and it does not blow away gpu cards.

if my 3 card 3080 gpu rig does 275mh and pulls 720 watts almost silently  it  cost me under 2600 to build it.

do I really need a 500mh asic pulling 950 watts loudly?

cost is 4388 if you can get one  add shipping and trump tax or vat. well over 5000 more like 5500
no longer 3 year warranty no resale like a gpu resale
500 x 3 = 15 dollars a day or 292 days with free power to break even.

so I can build 2 three card rigs for 5200
and mine 550mh at 1500 watts

vs 1 asic rig at 5500
and mine 500 mh at 920 watts

3 year warranty vs   6 month bs warranty

Exactly. and soon when rtx3000 series price gets normal you will get more cheaper and guaranteed.

[JHORN]

Separate graphics cards have high advantages over a single asic miner, if the asic miner gets a problem or fault you will have to find a qualified personal to fix it for you but with graphic cards you can remove the bad seed easily and there are also ways to fix dead gpu yourself, I bring my amd hd6950 back to life twice myself in 2016

[MZ4]

Since I recently bought a series of A10 , I have to mention that the cards can not beat the simplicity of Asic and the lower power consumption plays great role in the high cost energy countries.
Of course from the other side the resale value of cards is something important.

[philipma1957]

Since I recently bought a series of A10 , I have to mention that the cards can not beat the simplicity of Asic and the lower power consumption plays great role in the high cost energy countries.
Of course from the other side the resale value of cards is something important.

ASICs are a ruination for mining.

But tempting to use for short term profits.

They kill coin price time and time again.
 Manufacturers can simply flood the market with asics.
They had done so more than once with more than one coin.

[miner29]

Since I recently bought a series of A10 , I have to mention that the cards can not beat the simplicity of Asic and the lower power consumption plays great role in the high cost energy countries.
Of course from the other side the resale value of cards is something important.

ASICs are a ruination for mining.

But tempting to use for short term profits.

They kill coin price time and time again.
 Manufacturers can simply flood the market with asics.
They had done so more than once with more than one coin.

BTC begs to differ.

[Apostlekin$$$]

The amount of money that will fetch you the most powerful asic miner in the world today will fetch you better hash rate per second if you spend it on graphic cards, if you can't get 500MH out if a asic miner you can get 200MHS more if you put the money into GPUS

[arielbit]

6gb?? LOL...these asics can even compete or still useful until the next 2 generations of GPU after nvidia 3xxx series and amd 6xxx series, and they put 6gb only? fucking cheap skates manufactures with expensive prices..

so asics now don't have a significant increase in speed/MHs or efficiency like x3 or x4 hashrate over the previous gen...rather 20% more hash + 2gb ram? LOL what a joke  

[Wingsbtc]

6gb?? LOL...these asics can even compete or still useful until the next 2 generations of GPU after nvidia 3xxx series and amd 6xxx series, and they put 6gb only? fucking cheap skates manufactures with expensive prices..

so asics now don't have a significant increase in speed/MHs or efficiency like x3 or x4 hashrate over the previous gen...rather 20% more hash + 2gb ram? LOL what a joke  

Is the 6gig a problem? I don't think so, many think that every graphics card they own must have more than 4gb VRAM to mine Ethereum but they are wrong, a single card with 8gb VRAM can make 4gb VRAM cards works very well , the 8gb card must be in the first PCIE slot and the miner will make use of the first card memory only

[Wingsbtc]

For example if you have 5 RX470 with 4gb VRAM you only need to get a RX470 with 8gb VRAM and mix with the 4gb cards, just make sure the highest VRAM card is inserted in the first slot on your motherboard, the first card memory is all the miner needs, I've done this and it works, so if innosilicon A10 Pro+ have only 6gb VRAM for all the 500mh to 720mh it still makes Sense

[arielbit]

6gb?? LOL...these asics can even compete or still useful until the next 2 generations of GPU after nvidia 3xxx series and amd 6xxx series, and they put 6gb only? fucking cheap skates manufactures with expensive prices..

so asics now don't have a significant increase in speed/MHs or efficiency like x3 or x4 hashrate over the previous gen...rather 20% more hash + 2gb ram? LOL what a joke  

Is the 6gig a problem? I don't think so, many think that every graphics card they own must have more than 4gb VRAM to mine Ethereum but they are wrong, a single card with 8gb VRAM can make 4gb VRAM cards works very well , the 8gb card must be in the first PCIE slot and the miner will make use of the first card memory only

year 2023 DAG will be 6gb, gpus can be 1:1 compared to 1:2 in performance and efficiency vs ETH asic (year 2020 model).

it means you can still use ETH asic (year 2020 model) if it has 8gb. but they still used 6gb so they can sell more (year 2023) with 8gb because 6gb are useless by then.

what is an extra 2gb? ..it is nothing in overall manufacturing expense, people can pay the extra 100$ or less? for assurance that in year 2023 that asic can still be used.