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February 09, 2023, 08:02:40 PM |
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I think it's time for me to change hardware wallet, this time I would like to take an Open source hardware wallet that doesn't cost much, I looked at your list and the onekey classic caught my attention, it looks like a good device but I would like to ask what do you think? Are the updates regular? does the battery have a long life? Or would you recommend a different wallet?
I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A. They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh. I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.
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February 09, 2023, 09:20:27 PM |
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I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A. They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh. I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.
oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one
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February 10, 2023, 09:37:46 AM |
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oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one
I wanted to buy one for my testing when it was dirt cheap, but I gave up on that idea and I didn't want to wait for delivery from China. Open source doesn't automatically mean that something is more secure, it's easier for secure experts to inspect the code to find bugs, but that can also be done by malicious actors. You might want to read up the latest post I wrote about OneKey wallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439320.0
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February 10, 2023, 07:49:54 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one
I wanted to buy one for my testing when it was dirt cheap, but I gave up on that idea and I didn't want to wait for delivery from China. Open source doesn't automatically mean that something is more secure, it's easier for secure experts to inspect the code to find bugs, but that can also be done by malicious actors. You might want to read up the latest post I wrote about OneKey wallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5439320.0you are absolutely right, open source is not synonymous with security, but in some ways it is always safer than a closed source, which you must necessarily trust! by that I don't mean that there are malicious companies to steal funds, but scams are always around the corner. that's why I got paranoia 😅. I've had a look at your new thread and I have to say it's a good thing that OneKey commissioned this bugbounty. they fixed quite a bit of a problem
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February 10, 2023, 10:06:22 PM |
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I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A. They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh. I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.
oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one If you are paranoid, honestly get yourself a Passport batch 2. It is on the expensive side, but it's worth its price, since the hardware (and of course, software) is all open source and verifiable, so it has no hidden mini chips in the camera, display or elsewhere running closed firmware. It is also just very convenient to use. Click the hyperlink for my full review, otherwise I'll start repeating myself..
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February 11, 2023, 11:43:12 AM |
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I don't own OneKey hardware wallet so I can't answer everything you want, but I know they are forked from Trezor wallet with added secure element ATECC608A. They are making regular updates for their native OneKey app, but not all of their devices have battery, only OneKey Classic 100 mAh and OneKey Touch 800 mAh. I am not going to recommend any hardware wallet, you have the list with more information, and you can make your own decision based on your needs and coins your use.
oh sorry I was convinced you had a OneKey, thanks anyway for answering some of my questions. I'll take a closer look at your list, I've been getting paranoid about closed source hw lately and was hoping to get some advice on the buying an open source one If you are paranoid, honestly get yourself a Passport batch 2. It is on the expensive side, but it's worth its price, since the hardware (and of course, software) is all open source and verifiable, so it has no hidden mini chips in the camera, display or elsewhere running closed firmware. It is also just very convenient to use. Click the hyperlink for my full review, otherwise I'll start repeating myself.. I had never heard of this hardware wallet passport batch 2, thank you for letting me know, I saw the prices and they are a bit high but obviously you pay for the quality, as soon as I have two free minutes I read your review carefully so don't ask questions you may have already answered in the thread. Thanks again
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July 27, 2023, 01:35:02 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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List of Open Source hardware wallets is updated today with few new additions. CoolWallet yesterday release Open Source code for their Coolwallet Pro SE hardware wallet and they posted it on their github page, so you can report any bugs you notice. Note that this device is based on Java Card OpenPlatform, but some crypto algorithms can't be open source due to license constraints. At this moment we have no information if firmware for CoolWallet S regular version will also be released as open source or not. Coolwallet Pro SE source code: https://github.com/CoolBitX-Technology/coolwallet-pro-seCoolwallet blog article explaining this decision: https://www.coolwallet.io/coolwallet-will-open-source-its-hardware-wallets-secure-element-chip-code/OneKey Touch was added along with other two models from OneKey (CLassic and Mini). Another addition is upcoming Keystone3 devices, that includes both regular and pro version.
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July 29, 2023, 08:32:29 PM |
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It seems that you are correct about this, it looks something similar like ColdCard license, but they only made changes few days ago so let's wait and see if they add proper Open Source license. I asked CoolWallet for explanation and I will update list when I get official reply from them, but for now I am adding special note for CoolWallet Pro. This is still better than closed source license, but it's not good to call something open source if it's not.
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A couple of additions: Portal by TwenyTwoReview: Portal: Mobile-native Hardware Wallet by TwentyTwo Devices Portal is a mobile-native hardware wallet designed to keep your keys safe and seamlessly integrate into any mobile wallet app. It uses NFC technology to safely and effectively connect with any modern smartphone and doesn't need cables or batteries - it's completely powered by the NFC.
BitKeyBitkey brings together software, hardware, and advanced security to modernize bitcoin ownership
The code is open source
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@dkbit98, To reflect the hard reality, I think, there is a need to refresh the foot-note to Passport device in HW list. The current one states "using old ColdCard code". I would suggest something like this "using the forked ColdCard code with many changes already made and envisaged afterward". Grounds for this : " An Open Letter to NVK and Coldcard", Passport Firmware Releases, , "Coinkite's BBQr: A Troubling Development in Bitcoin Airgapped Wallet Standards"
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Yes. Portal is still in the preorder phase. I do anyway believe it is an interesting product to be aware of. At least for his innovative approach to mobile environment and UX, based on NFC contacts.
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March 15, 2024, 07:18:31 PM Merited by fillippone (1) |
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A couple of additions
I added both Portal and Bitkey hardare wallets. Source codes can be found on their github pages but I would wait to see if this is actually reproducible. Portal is still in pre-order phase, so I think we are going to wait few months for main release. To reflect the hard reality, I think, there is a need to refresh the foot-note to Passport device in HW list.
Updated and modified slightly, but I don't think this was so important
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May 28, 2024, 10:19:02 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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List is updated and I made some changes, thanks to member Ringwallet for bringing this to my attention. Bitkey and Cypherock X1 are removed from the list because they don't have fully open source code, and they advertised as open source devices on their website and everywhere else. Don't blindly trust me or any of my lists, do your own research.
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May 28, 2024, 03:56:48 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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@dkbit98 Have you checked Wallet Scrutiny's feedback on the Bitlox wallet? They have market it as obsolete. They claim that the latest contributions to the firmware repository dates back to 2017. Bitlox's GitHub shows no activity throughout 2024 and 2023. Even 2022 has very little work. You can take a look at what they said here: https://walletscrutiny.com/hardware/bitloxultimate/
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very interesting thread
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