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November 20, 2020, 12:54:46 AM
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Nobody cant be even sure that these btc are real
I don't know the process of buying crypto with paypal, did you mean Paypal can sell BTC without having them on their wallet? If so, a very bad thing may happen soon when people will be looking for withdrawing their fund. How can will they manage that?
It's just like a copy trading maybe, https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1318908402064625664

It's like you are trading with the paypal itself. You can only buy and sell with paypal. Any action that you have taken for you bitcoin to be used to buy something on the merchant will make your bitcoin to be liquidated into the dollar and then it will be used to pay the merchant. it seems to me bitcoin paypal just like IOU token.

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November 20, 2020, 01:57:07 AM
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PayPal Reaches 85% of Binance.US Volume in First Month

What will happen in next 3-6 months 😱



https://cryptobriefing.com/paypal-reaches-85-binance-us-volume-first-month/
This is just an awesome news from paypal! It shows how many people are interested in Bitcoin/Cryptocurrency. This is just for USA but what if they open it for European and others people! It will explode for sure!

Because the attractiveness of paypal users is familiar to us, almost the majority of businesses also use paypal as their payment tool. Of course this is one of the positive news and appreciation for the development of bitcoin after entering the paypal circle.

Hopefully the others will also follow in the footsteps of paypal soon, like Skrill maybe amazon too.
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November 20, 2020, 12:32:45 PM
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Worst of all, if something goes bad with this PayPal thing, people will blame bitcoin, crying how it's not safe as advertised etc. What I hope though is that those who bought this "bitcoin" via PayPal will eventually figure out that what they bought is not the real thing and that they can't move it around as they please  so sooner or later they will buy the real stuff. Or PayPal will enable that.

They won't blame bitcoin for a Paypal problem, it's as silly as blaming the dollar or euro and the world financial system for disputed dollar/euro transactions and banking fraud, and fiat scams! They don't understand how any of those things work either, so why should they blame something they don't understand? Additionally, they are paying Paypal for their bitcoin services so when they ask for support they will be going to PayPal customer support, not some bitcoin forum.

Time works for bitcoin so I am not  fussed with all this, I see it as just another step. Up until recently you would have your PayPal account locked if you tried to buy some BTC with it, and now we can see how times have changed.

Maybe this is still the case, I don't think anyone here with a Paypal account is willing to verify whether this still happens though. PayPal might have opened up for their own service only and is still cracking down on third party exchangers, after all they did not announce any change in policy so I still think it's risky to pay for exchangers with PayPal.

This is just from US and if they open to Europe and all other continents, PayPal users are everywhere even in Asia. It's definitely going up there to exceed the previous ATH. Its catching up binance and they haven't turned their platform yet into a full exchange.

I saw an article that paypal has plans to have an exchange. Once they do this, there could be more users there than in binance.

If we managed to moon to 18K just from PayPal opening up to users, I expect us to gain at least $5K more if they open up to places like Europe and the Far East, but I don't think the announcement of a PayPal exchange will have much effect on the BTC price in the long term.

As for China, a similar payment service company like Tencent or Alibaba allowing bitcoin wallets in WeChat Pay or AliPay will further moon the price, since China has a large untapped market of cryptocurrency buyers.

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November 20, 2020, 12:41:11 PM
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How high a bar is binance.us? Since you hardly ever hear about it not very is my guess. All the same this is definitely one to watch. It may be offensive to us but just what the doctor ordered for others.
Bar is not really high. According to Coingecko, Binance US volume is just shy over 30 million USD. Pretty low compared to top US based exchange like Coinbase with its 900+ million 24 hour volume. But it sounds better and more bullish  when you write "Paypal volume is 85% of Binance US volume" instead "Paypal volume is at 3% of Coinbase Pro volume". You gotta make people click that link Cheesy

Nevertheless, it is a good number for Paypal in just 1 month, which i expect to increase sharply once FOMO kicks in.


They won't blame bitcoin for a Paypal problem, it's as silly as blaming the dollar or euro and the world financial system for disputed dollar/euro transactions and banking fraud, and fiat scams! They don't understand how any of those things work either, so why should they blame something they don't understand?
That's exactly why they would blame bitcoin, because they don't understand the basics. I do agree that is ridiculous, but that's what people do.

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November 20, 2020, 02:01:11 PM
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They won't blame bitcoin for a Paypal problem, it's as silly as blaming the dollar or euro and the world financial system for disputed dollar/euro transactions and banking fraud, and fiat scams! They don't understand how any of those things work either, so why should they blame something they don't understand?
That's exactly why they would blame bitcoin, because they don't understand the basics. I do agree that is ridiculous, but that's what people do.

Basics of what? As far as average joe is concerned, there are just addresses and amounts of bitcoin to send, and possibly transaction fees in the form of "slow", "normal" and "fast" too.

It's different if you have customers on crypto exchanges blaming bitcoin for their transaction fee or key mismanagement woes, than customers of a company that is not crypto centric such as PayPal, Venmo or Stripe having crypto transaction problems. Let me explain why.

The two groups advertise bitcoin as a different thing to people, the first group advertises bitcoin as a utility to make money and invest on, they even give their customers access to private keys and seed phrases (which is a good thing, don't get me wrong), but the more control over their bitcoins you give to people, the more likely they are to blame bitcoin for e.g the high tx fees that made a trade unprofitable, a forgotten username&password that caused them to lose their seed phrase too because they never wrote it down, things like that.

Now I'm not saying taking away people's control of their bitcoins is good, I'm just pointing out the correlation between control and blame.

By contrast, the second group advertises bitcoin as a method of payment, and (possibly) a means to exchange it to other currencies. Users don't have access to private keys or advanced fee handling and get a dumbed down version of bitcoin. IF some bug prevented USD <---> BTC exchanging from working (which is pretty much the only thing PP offers as of now), they are not going to blame bitcoin for the failure, they will blame PayPal, or X service, and flood their customer support.

(Addendum: newbies who are using software wallets are even more likely to blame bitcoin, because they are the sole managers of their money and not a company, and there is only themselves to blame for a mistake. Most people are unwilling to admit responsibility though, so naturally they try to find something else to blame.)

And while we're talking about control:



Yeah, and 98,7% of the people on Linux forums don't understand why people use windows macos

Fixed that for you. Contrary to what many people think, most non-tech savvy people in the US are using MacBooks and iPhones (I think even the Linux/Mac flamewars are bigger too.) And those devices give you almost zero control over the configuration, unlike Windows, yet the same concept applies here - They have a large userbase, while MS has less of a userbase that they can directly influence. Influence comes from selling the devices directly, or in the case of financial services, signing up the most customers on your own platform.

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November 22, 2020, 12:34:38 PM
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Why people want to buy btc on paypal so much? its impossible to withdraw btc from there. There are a lot of good exchanges with card buying features like bitfinex (via ownr) or kucoin (via simplex) for example. However, people still want to use paypal..
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November 22, 2020, 01:13:36 PM
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And further there are news that paypal has bought bitcoin valued over 70% of total new mined coins in the meantime. This along with other institutional investors, are buying more bitcoin than that are entering the supply.
https://news.bitcoin.com/paypal-bought-70-of-all-newly-mined-bitcoin-last-month-as-demand-rockets/

Institutional investors are capturing a larger portion of bitcoin which would make them even larger whales and it would be easier for them to manipulate price.


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