Is Bitcoin Cash ABC (BCHA) dead?

[martha1]

BCH is losing value overtime and it never recovered from the previous fork, so going forward this trend is likely to remain.

[nutildah]

Too bad you still care about BCHA, I've always only cared about BTC, mate,
because Bitcoin is indeed an important project in the future to advance world technology for the better, and it's not part of BCHA,
we know BCH and BSV just a clone, so don't expect too much BCHA, let him die I prefer that.

You know what this post reminds me of? It's like a saltine cracker. Boring, devoid of nutritional content, and nobody asked for it. If you ever wonder why you've never received a single merit, that's why: you're serving up saltine crackers and nobody wants them. I know you don't care, just pumping out those posts for the bounty. You'll never learn anything and thus you'll never earn anything. Great job.

[Cryptoababe]

According to coin.dance, BCHA hasn't added a new block since block #661656, which is 227 blocks behind BCHN. It would appear BCHA is being traded on a number of exchanges, but all that can take place independent of BCHA's ability to add blocks to its chain.

The lack in block production is confirmed by checking a Bitcoin Cash ABC explorer:

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-abc

The last block was found on 11/16, almost 24 hours ago! Before that it was adding blocks one every 3 to 10 hours. This is because its hash rate has been reduced to almost nothing, and it would appear it might soon be abandoned. That's my guess anyway. What do you think is going to happen with BCHA?

I think bitcoin ABC is abandoned already. No blocks no hash rate.. What else remain? Nothing
All these are happening because its abandoned

[nutildah]

I think bitcoin ABC is abandoned already. No blocks no hash rate.. What else remain? Nothing
All these are happening because its abandoned

Again... can't really believe you're being compensated in any form for this type of comment.

1. It's not abandoned.
2. It has blocks (the last one was found 12 minutes ago).
3. It has a hash rate.

https://abc.coin.dance/blocks

Would it be too much to ask that people do the slightest bit of research before commenting misinformative nonsense in this thread?

[SmartMiner.Pro]

Dude. Look at your own screenshot: its telling you that you have 10 BCHA alongside your 10 BCHN. They are both governed by the same private key, which you will need to import to a BCHA-specific wallet, which can likely be downloaded from the Bitcoin ABC website. Trezor was one of the few companies to outright support BCHA and not offer support for BCHN, but apparently they came around on Nov. 16th and changed their software. You may have to update your Trezor if you haven't since then.

Sorry for disturb.
If you have a minute axplain me please.
Now a have 108 BCH and 108 BCHA on the same address: https://monosnap.com/file/RQBDMztCeqBHGyP49lSWE5WFgSc3LL
My BCH on my Trezor.
But i haven't access to BCHA and don't know where it is.
Help me please with this.

Aslo I have no idea who sent all my BCHA coins from my cold wallet Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network) to this address: qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u
It was at Dec, 2 whet I not installed Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network) software yet.

[nutildah]

Dude. Look at your own screenshot: its telling you that you have 10 BCHA alongside your 10 BCHN. They are both governed by the same private key, which you will need to import to a BCHA-specific wallet, which can likely be downloaded from the Bitcoin ABC website. Trezor was one of the few companies to outright support BCHA and not offer support for BCHN, but apparently they came around on Nov. 16th and changed their software. You may have to update your Trezor if you haven't since then.

Sorry for disturb.
If you have a minute axplain me please.
Now a have 108 BCH and 108 BCHA on the same address: https://monosnap.com/file/RQBDMztCeqBHGyP49lSWE5WFgSc3LL
My BCH on my Trezor.
But i haven't access to BCHA and don't know where it is.
Help me please with this.

Aslo I have no idea who sent all my BCHA coins from my cold wallet Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network) to this address: qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u
It was at Dec, 2 whet I not installed Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network) software yet.

Its okay buddy. You have legitimate questions and want an answer. I might not be able to provide it but let's take a look.

First of all, in your screenshot, you are showing outdated coin balances, one for BCHN (BCH) and one for BCHA. Your first screenshot was accurate and reflects your true balances, this second one is old. Also keep in mind the network split happened on 11/15.

Let's look at the BCHN wallet first.

You had 10 BCH on 11/15. You received 98 BCH on 11/22 and sent them on 12/7, and now have a balance of 10 BCH correct?

Looking at the BCHA wallet:

Aslo I have no idea who sent all my BCHA coins from my cold wallet Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network) to this address: qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u

Buddy, that is your address! According to you, anyway:

Here is my wallet: https://blockchair.com/search?q=qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u

It looks like you were sent 98 BCHA along with 98 BCH on 11/22. The BCHA transaction was confirmed 10 days after the BCH transaction (12/2). If they made a single transaction it was broadcasted to both blockchains somehow (lack of replay protection I assume).

Compare these two address histories.

This one is for BCH: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u?_type=address

This one is for BCHA: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-abc/address/qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u?_type=address

You can see they go on separate paths starting 11-21.

Answer me this before I go any further:

Are you supposed to have 10 coins each for BCH and BCHA at qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u, like you currently do, or are you saying your coins were stolen from... one blockchain or both?? Don't exactly understand what the problem is.

[SmartMiner.Pro]

1. There was 108 BCH coins on my Trezor wallet.
2. 13 November I sent them to my Bitcoin ABC wallet 0.22.6 to get both coins after fork.
3. After fork, November 22, I saved wallet.dat from Bitcoin ABC 0.22.6 (the balance was 108 coins).
4. On November 22 I sent 108 BCH coins back to Trezor at address: qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u. Here is my current balance on Trezor: https://take.ms/QiTvv
4. Two days ago I installed a BCHA client: Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network), took the wallet.dat file from step 3 and saw that in the history of this client on December 2 my BCHA was sent to qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u - but I did not do it!

Now I understand I have 108 BCHA somewhere - but I don't know how to access them.

PS Thanks God, everything is OK with my BCH coins on Trezor.


PPS yesterday I sent a little bit of BCH from my Trezor to Binance...
Transaction 4e774f6354833522bb18b2b67fbb3c87dadeb2371b289f5b6074c65f1f7de894
and as I see it, the transaction was duplicated at BCHA!
facepalm

[nutildah]

1. There was 108 BCH coins on my Trezor wallet.
2. 13 November I sent them to my Bitcoin ABC wallet 0.22.6 to get both coins after fork.
3. After fork, November 22, I saved wallet.dat from Bitcoin ABC 0.22.6 (the balance was 108 coins).
4. On November 22 I sent 108 BCH coins back to Trezor at address: qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u. Here is my current balance on Trezor: https://take.ms/QiTvv
4. Two days ago I installed a BCHA client: Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network), took the wallet.dat file from step 3 and saw that in the history of this client on December 2 my BCHA was sent to qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u - but I did not do it!

Now I understand I have 108 BCHA somewhere - but I don't know how to access them.

PS Thanks God, everything is OK with my BCH coins on Trezor.


PPS yesterday I sent a little bit of BCH from my Trezor to Binance...
Transaction 4e774f6354833522bb18b2b67fbb3c87dadeb2371b289f5b6074c65f1f7de894
and as I see it, the transaction was duplicated at BCHA!
facepalm

Aha! Here's the problem: Trezor can't tell the difference between BCH and BCHA and sends both coins with one transaction (it appears as one transaction to you and Trezor but in reality its 2 transactions). So wherever you sent your BCH, that's where your BCHA went as well! The timestamps are off because BCHA went a long period of time without finding a single block; other than that they are the same in BCH as they are for BCHA.

So wherever you sent your BCH post-split, you sent BCHA there as well. With the exception of your microtransaction to Binance, all your coins should be in your control. I wouldn't send anything else from Trezor until they get their shit together, lol.

[SmartMiner.Pro]

Thank you for clarifying.

One question remained unanswered - what was the transaction on December 2 from the BCHA wallet... Why they happened.

And, if I understood correctly, I need to create 2 identical receiving addresses for BCH and BCHA in some wallet - and send there a transaction from Trezor (I don't think they will make any solution for that).

[nutildah]

Thank you for clarifying.

One question remained unanswered - what was the transaction on December 2 from the BCHA wallet... Why they happened.

OK, so what happened was you made a BCH transaction on Nov 22 and BCHA got sent along with it -- they even have the same hash number:

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/c715c4d116e8135af7a1b63015ba144885b1fb694da40be81f77e783d24b49f8

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-abc/transaction/c715c4d116e8135af7a1b63015ba144885b1fb694da40be81f77e783d24b49f8

However, the mirrored BCHA transaction wasn't actually confirmed until Dec 2 as they weren't finding blocks for quite a while. The next transaction, made Dec 7, also has the same hash number for both chains. This means that whatever address you sent the 98 BCH to also has 98 BCHA.

And, if I understood correctly, I need to create 2 identical receiving addresses for BCH and BCHA in some wallet - and send there a transaction from Trezor (I don't think they will make any solution for that).

Sure, if you have control of both private keys (BCH and BCHA private keys), then that should be fine. Trezor will eventually come up with a better solution -- it might be worth waiting until they do, and even checking their website now to see if they have a new release. You're likely not their only customer having issues.

[SmartMiner.Pro]

Thank You!

It would be better if I did not touch BCH on Trezor before fork

[kostepanych2]

What is working explorer for BCHA?

[kostepanych2]

is it dead?

[casperBGD]

All these Bitcoin forks will eventually die, the bull market is what made them seems as if the projects are still alive, just look at most of them especially Bitcoin ABC, no one is using it, at time its baffles me why some of these developers are championing these dead projects and what they stand to gain

agree, the question could be - will it die eventually, and it will
could not say that it is already dead, but that is just a dead cat bounce, and one should consider leaving the project before it is already dead
always do your own analysis before investment and consider short and long term properties, IMO, none Bitcoin forks will not replace Bitcoin, and that means that they will eventually end-up as bad investment (do not take this as financial advise)

[retreat]

According to coin.dance, BCHA hasn't added a new block since block #661656, which is 227 blocks behind BCHN. It would appear BCHA is being traded on a number of exchanges, but all that can take place independent of BCHA's ability to add blocks to its chain.

The lack in block production is confirmed by checking a Bitcoin Cash ABC explorer:

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-abc

The last block was found on 11/16, almost 24 hours ago! Before that it was adding blocks one every 3 to 10 hours. This is because its hash rate has been reduced to almost nothing, and it would appear it might soon be abandoned. That's my guess anyway. What do you think is going to happen with BCHA?

I still remember buying BCHA when it first appeared on Binance and the price went up fast, but i didn't sell immediately, I hold the BCHA in the hope that the price would fly higher but what happened was the opposite, the BCHA price dropped drastically and I made a cut-loss.

I'm not sure about the future of BCHA, I think it will be another shitcoin.

[Princejebs]

The money making project doesn't have enough fuel any longer hence investors and traders has shift mindsets into the latest one.
I can remember when bitcoin forks were the latest thing in town making different crypto media headlines but today, almost turnout to be gabbage with almost no road map.
More likely, more DeFi project will be cripple during this bull run cycle with zero liquidity. Only the tough one would last.