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[suchmoon]

there is not a single reason to delete my topic because I didn't break any rules and I will continue to create it without breaking the rules.

Please keep doing that until this account ends up with a permaban like your other one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2875949

Intertubes darwinism in action.

[Joel_Jantsen]

who ever the mod is that deles my topic, it is time for you to learn the rules

@hilariousandco - Is that you?  

no matter you like me or nor for selling accounts around here, it is not against the rules to sell my own accounts you know?

What do you mean by your own accounts? Do you have any example threads or the thread title?

there is not a single reason to delete my topic because I didn't break any rules and I will continue to create it without breaking the rules.

If your thread got deleted for doing something, there's a high chance it will be deleted again for doing the same thing again. And you might as well get a permaban too. Anyway, not sure what account sales you're on about here so hard to draw a conclusion.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

OP, without knowing what threads you're referring to, there's no way for anyone except the mod who deleted them to know if there was good reason to.  You're right, selling accounts isn't against the rules unless there's something illegal about it, so I doubt that's the reason for your thread deletion.

Man, I hope nutildah isn't correct in saying you're an alt of Rambotnic.  I had so hoped he'd gone away for good and for all.

Edit: Since when asking for mods to answer brings no lifers without permissions to answer.

Hey, it's a discussion forum where anyone can post.  You didn't make a local rule in your OP that only moderators could respond here, which you could have by the way.

[suchmoon]

Man, I hope nutildah isn't correct in saying you're an alt of Rambotnic.  I had so hoped he'd gone away for good and for all.

nutildah is correct. This is one of many Rambotnic's sockpuppets and he's getting increasingly desperate as his scams are getting busted.

[Joel_Jantsen]

OP, without knowing what threads you're referring to, there's no way for anyone except the mod who deleted them to know if there was good reason to. 

I think it's possibly this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5284255.msg55446928#msg55446928

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[Joel_Jantsen]

Obviously I can create one account on each website/platform you idiot?

I don't go around scamming people and farming accounts so I wouldn't know. But I understand it must be hard for you to get that bread without a college degree.

Account sales are not forbidden no matter you guys like it or not.
Actually 60%+ of the accounts around are sold and we all know it.
I don't give a fuck who Rambotnic is, maybe another pajeet like such moon

Your thread will get deleted again doesn't matter you like it or not.  Since we're on it, just reported another thread of yours. : )

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Your account will be banned (temp then permanent) or nuked soon.

Low quality topics and posts are not allowed here

18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged.

Q: I saw a guy selling Bitcointalk accounts. Why is that allowed?
A: Since we can't effectively prevent these sales (proxies, TOR, sales on other forums), we don't because otherwise we would be giving the users a false sense of security.

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

[mprep]

Seems like you were selling accounts for services that require KYC. Here's something I posted a few days ago that pretty much fits your situation verbatim:

Since you were running a store that sells accounts for services that require KYC, there is only a small number of ways you could've acquired said accounts. You:

1. Hacked them.
2. Passed KYC with stolen documents.
3. Passed KYC with fake (counterfeit) or modified expired documents.
4. Passed KYC with documents bought from their owners.

All 4 methods are widely illegal. And as per the "Hacked invites/accounts are not allowed" stickied "Invites & Accounts" topic:

You are only allowed to sell accounts/invites that you legally obtained yourself or through legitimate trades. If you did anything illegal in order to obtain an item, then you can't trade it on bitcointalk.org. Anyone found breaking this rule will be banned.

Accounts on sites that require KYC such as bank accounts, PayPal, etc. are assumed to be hacked unless you explain why they're not hacked.

[logfiles]

Account sales are not forbidden no matter you guys like it or not.
Actually 60%+ of the accounts around are sold and we all know it.

The posts that have been deleted so far are not concerning forum account sales. Stop lying. For example
-  https://ninjastic.space/post/55331952

The nature of the accounts you are trying to sell suggests that they could have either been hacked/stolen, verified using false or stolen documents etc which is not allowed in the forum. I can see you other alt (BettingSolutions) which was also complaining about Deleted topic for no reason has already been banned and I hope mods continue banning all you other ban evading alts

[hilariousetc]

who ever the mod is that deles my topic, it is time for you to learn the rules

@hilariousandco - Is that you?  

Wasn't me.

you pajeet need to read CAREFUL the rules on the section -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1785577.0
GO AHEAD AND PROOVE I am selling hacked/stolen or illegal obtained accounts.
I can't wait, let me grab my popcorn

If you want to PM a Global mod or one of the sub mods of the Marketplace with reasonable proof on how you're obtaining these accounts legitimately/legally then I'm sure they'll be allowed to stay if you can prove what you're saying but just asking people to take your word for it likely isn't going to cut it.

Its absolutely impossible to have more than 1 bet365 account in 1 name.

It's probably not impossible. Might be against their terms and maybe they have measures in place to try prevent it but I'm sure there are people with multiple accounts there.

[hilariousetc]

Seems like it is hard for me to understand one thing.
Why should I pm a Mod to show him a proof that those accounts are obtained legal ?
Isn't everywhere: innocent until proven guilty ?
I believe if someone think they are illegal/stolen/hacked, they should provide valid proof based statement, and if I see one, I will show a MOD and MOD only how the were obtained because I am not interested to post my source public.
Also, I already share one of the method how they are obtained which is 1000% legal, not stolen and any kind of shady activity.

Well, this isn't a court of law but people have posted reasons why they're likely not legit. If someone comes here and offers guaranteed 1000% interest on a loan or investment we're going to call them out on it and assume they're a scammer even though we can't prove that they're not going to pay you 1000% interest, but they probably wont. But Ok, so let's say you're accused of a crime and are taken to court for selling illegally obtained accounts. The court asks you how did you acquire them. And you say.... You would have to prove to the court that you obtained them legitimately and that's what were asking you to do. You should be able to do this if they are in fact legit but if you can't then the burden of proof is on you but we will have to assume that they are almost certainly not obtained through legitimate means, which, let's be honest, they probably aren't, and that's what were going to assume until proven otherwise.

[malevolent]

Your continuous near admissions of lying aren't helping your case. The burden of proof, especially as a Newbie/Jr. Member, is on you. Your Trust rating history and attitude isn't helping your case either. If anything, you can thank Global mods for not having banned you.

[mprep]

mprep, could you please explain me why is that illegal?
4. Passed KYC with documents bought from their owners.
If people are willing to sell their documents, isn't that a legal deal between you and the person who's selling the documents?
You are not stealing them, you don't hack them, you don't do anything illegal but doing a legit deal between adult who knows what he's doing.
If you could explain me why that part should be illegal, I will accept it.

Because buying or selling identification documents issued by a country's government is widely restricted... by country governments... for rather obvious reasons (getting access to benefits you aren't entitled to, being able to circumvent restrictions you're subject to, etc.). In quite a few countries, even the sale of expired documents is prohibited, for usually the same reasons.

[Smartvirus]

I have many accounts under my name pajeet, seems like you are stupid retard
if you are not familiar with those go kill yourself.
you can have only 1 under your name using skrill/paypal and shit payment methods like that
sadly you just tough achieving 12 iq was possible for you, sadly 11 is your max
you pajeet need to read CAREFUL the rules on the section -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1785577.0
GO AHEAD AND PROOVE I am selling hacked/stolen or illegal obtained accounts.
I can't wait, let me grab my popcorn

Clearly, you care so little about values and you have a rather unpleasant way to attract attention to yourself @OP. Your full of hateful words that I wonder what's got you this much nerve but then, your business here is way out of the forum and as such, you see the forum as a means to target at a prey rather than a way to something lasting.
You selling your account isn't a crime but then, the account isn't really safe on the part of the third party and yourself as, you both have contacts with the account and it could be used for evil by either parties which would be very undesirable.

[jademaxsuy]

Seems like it is hard for me to understand one thing.
Why should I pm a Mod to show him a proof that those accounts are obtained legal ?
Isn't everywhere: innocent until proven guilty ?
I believe if someone think they are illegal/stolen/hacked, they should provide valid proof based statement, and if I see one, I will show a MOD and MOD only how the were obtained because I am not interested to post my source public.
Also, I already share one of the method how they are obtained which is 1000% legal, not stolen and any kind of shady activity.

Account sales are not forbidden no matter you guys like it or not.
Actually 60%+ of the accounts around are sold and we all know it.

The posts that have been deleted so far are not concerning forum account sales. Stop lying. For example
-  https://ninjastic.space/post/55331952

The nature of the accounts you are trying to sell suggests that they could have either been hacked/stolen, verified using false or stolen documents etc which is not allowed in the forum. I can see you other alt (BettingSolutions) which was also complaining about Deleted topic for no reason has already been banned and I hope mods continue banning all you other ban evading alts

Please, stop with your stupid non sense, none of the accounts are obtained illegal, and I can LIE ANYTIME I WISH, it is well known marketing since world existing... Example: saying you have 50 coins when you can supply 10 but waiting for restock.

I do not have banned alts, I do have tagged alts.

mprep, could you please explain me why is that illegal?
4. Passed KYC with documents bought from their owners.
If people are willing to sell their documents, isn't that a legal deal between you and the person who's selling the documents?
You are not stealing them, you don't hack them, you don't do anything illegal but doing a legit deal between adult who knows what he's doing.
If you could explain me why that part should be illegal, I will accept it.

I just read the replies and yes @mprep was right that KYC should not be ask to the buyer when you sell the accounts. Ask for escrow services instead of proving it that you obtained the account legally to help you sell the accounts. They can hold the information of the account and the money of the account buyer. It just need a little fee and you can even ask the buyer to pay for the escrow service. In this way we can say that you are a real seller and do not have any intentions to get documents of the buyer. KYC here is not really necessary.

Earning is one of the highlights here in the forum and you can see mostly here advertising and that wearing signatures. So, do the right thing being fair enough to the buyers by not asking KYC. Escrow services are key to a successful transactions. You can do it that way to avoid any illegal implications.

[suchmoon]

Well, consider people doing it by free will, I don't consider those documents as hacked/stolen or illegal obtained.

Many - if not most - crimes tend to be committed "by free will" so that means jack shit, as does the rest of your fallacious post. Give it up, you're not gonna make your own rules and your scams are not welcome here.

[actmyname]

Do not tell me about crimes, this is not court this is forum
How the fuck are you connecting a crime and a account created without illegal activity you brain dead murican?

That's funny: because this is a forum, the moderators don't exactly have to answer to anyone for their discretion. They sometimes tell you why your posts are deleted, as has been done here, but unfortunately you're unable to accept that.

Your "free will" scenario of others selling their accounts is interesting but is irrelevant unless you are able to prove the transfer of ownership from the exact KYC-verified individual. I don't think you have the evidence of this, though you can feel free to prove me wrong. This is beyond any other details that would make it undesirable to sell one's account (e.g. ToS breaching)

[Redirexrs]

https://i.imgur.com/61sBq0h.jpg



Jesus, dude.

[suchmoon]

Do not tell me about crimes, this is not court this is forum
How the fuck are you connecting a crime and a account created without illegal activity you brain dead murican?

Identity theft and using fake or illegally obtained documents is a crime in many countries, likely including whatever shithole you're in.

But you're right. This is just a forum with it's own rules and your posts can be deleted or your ass can be banned without any crimes at all - just because you break said rules.

You should probably seek help for your obsession with pedophilia.