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July 30, 2023, 11:02:01 AM
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Here the problem is more in the legislation, and if something is tokenized, then most likely there will be additional protection methods that will not allow selling tokens from any wallet.
I do recall one of the projects asked me to fill out a KYC form and provide an ID plus wallet address to claim the tokenized assets. If you don't live in the US or Europe it is difficult to claim the tokens, and you literally have no one to rely on if you want to file a claim against them if your country doesn't even allow tokens and stuff like that. I don't think this thing will become mainstream in the near future for countries in Asia.
Russia, Asian countries have always lagged behind the United States by 5-7 years. In the US, some companies use smart contracts and tokens legally, but all transactions go through registration and a centralized personal account. On the one hand, the blockchain acts as a guarantor of the transparency of transactions, but on the other hand, all operations must be done on a centralized service. Of course, such investments are not suitable for everyone.

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July 31, 2023, 07:14:16 AM
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Here the problem is more in the legislation, and if something is tokenized, then most likely there will be additional protection methods that will not allow selling tokens from any wallet.
I do recall one of the projects asked me to fill out a KYC form and provide an ID plus wallet address to claim the tokenized assets. If you don't live in the US or Europe it is difficult to claim the tokens, and you literally have no one to rely on if you want to file a claim against them if your country doesn't even allow tokens and stuff like that. I don't think this thing will become mainstream in the near future for countries in Asia.
I had similar experience and they later ran away. I completed KYC, provided wallet address and also had to download and fill some documents which looked real. I had to even sign the whole document and even made  signatory. I was told I must have someone who will represent me in Europe for physical completion of documentation.  But within a short while they vanished.

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August 02, 2023, 01:03:16 PM
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Here the problem is more in the legislation, and if something is tokenized, then most likely there will be additional protection methods that will not allow selling tokens from any wallet.
I do recall one of the projects asked me to fill out a KYC form and provide an ID plus wallet address to claim the tokenized assets. If you don't live in the US or Europe it is difficult to claim the tokens, and you literally have no one to rely on if you want to file a claim against them if your country doesn't even allow tokens and stuff like that. I don't think this thing will become mainstream in the near future for countries in Asia.
I had similar experience and they later ran away. I completed KYC, provided wallet address and also had to download and fill some documents which looked real. I had to even sign the whole document and even made  signatory. I was told I must have someone who will represent me in Europe for physical completion of documentation.  But within a short while they vanished.
What made you go through the KYC procedure?
There are a lot of scammers in the cryptocurrency sector in the US, Canada and Europe, although many users think that these countries are safe and there are fewer scammers there.
In order not to be deceived, you need to wait for the company to prove itself in the market and earn a reputation, so that it would not be profitable for it to disappear with money or user data.

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August 02, 2023, 10:47:07 PM
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What made you go through the KYC procedure?
There are a lot of scammers in the cryptocurrency sector in the US, Canada and Europe, although many users think that these countries are safe and there are fewer scammers there.
In order not to be deceived, you need to wait for the company to prove itself in the market and earn a reputation, so that it would not be profitable for it to disappear with money or user data.
You said it rightly. Haven verified that the company was based in UK, I had some level of believe in the project. I had thought that SEC was effective and hard on them. It was based on this believe of mine that I went deep into the project and in the end I lost much. The reason I completed KYC was this; KYC was not said to be a prerequisite, but when they claim the bond is matured, I was then forced to complete KYC as a compulsory requirement for the investment exit.

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August 03, 2023, 11:53:29 AM
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What made you go through the KYC procedure?
There are a lot of scammers in the cryptocurrency sector in the US, Canada and Europe, although many users think that these countries are safe and there are fewer scammers there.
In order not to be deceived, you need to wait for the company to prove itself in the market and earn a reputation, so that it would not be profitable for it to disappear with money or user data.
You said it rightly. Haven verified that the company was based in UK, I had some level of believe in the project. I had thought that SEC was effective and hard on them. It was based on this believe of mine that I went deep into the project and in the end I lost much. The reason I completed KYC was this; KYC was not said to be a prerequisite, but when they claim the bond is matured, I was then forced to complete KYC as a compulsory requirement for the investment exit.
I had acquaintances who opened companies in the UK, but they had never been to this country. Maybe now there are more serious requirements for the opening of firms, but for a long time I do not believe that in these countries the interests of non-citizens will be protected.If I want to invest in companies, then it is better to use the stock market, where there is very tight control.

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August 07, 2023, 09:00:27 AM
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What made you go through the KYC procedure?
There are a lot of scammers in the cryptocurrency sector in the US, Canada and Europe, although many users think that these countries are safe and there are fewer scammers there.
In order not to be deceived, you need to wait for the company to prove itself in the market and earn a reputation, so that it would not be profitable for it to disappear with money or user data.
You said it rightly. Haven verified that the company was based in UK, I had some level of believe in the project. I had thought that SEC was effective and hard on them. It was based on this believe of mine that I went deep into the project and in the end I lost much. The reason I completed KYC was this; KYC was not said to be a prerequisite, but when they claim the bond is matured, I was then forced to complete KYC as a compulsory requirement for the investment exit.
I had acquaintances who opened companies in the UK, but they had never been to this country. Maybe now there are more serious requirements for the opening of firms, but for a long time I do not believe that in these countries the interests of non-citizens will be protected.If I want to invest in companies, then it is better to use the stock market, where there is very tight control.
You are right!
Even when I tried to take a legal action in UK and I had a representative, the gesture was that the case won't be treated as important. It will need my presence in UK to facilitate hearing or whatever. I finally gave up.
I had counted it as a mistake, it is better to invest in a decentralized project like bitcoin where everyone is treated equally or also in stock where there is tight control. Thanks for your advice.

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August 09, 2023, 04:18:49 PM
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What made you go through the KYC procedure?
There are a lot of scammers in the cryptocurrency sector in the US, Canada and Europe, although many users think that these countries are safe and there are fewer scammers there.
In order not to be deceived, you need to wait for the company to prove itself in the market and earn a reputation, so that it would not be profitable for it to disappear with money or user data.
You said it rightly. Haven verified that the company was based in UK, I had some level of believe in the project. I had thought that SEC was effective and hard on them. It was based on this believe of mine that I went deep into the project and in the end I lost much. The reason I completed KYC was this; KYC was not said to be a prerequisite, but when they claim the bond is matured, I was then forced to complete KYC as a compulsory requirement for the investment exit.
I had acquaintances who opened companies in the UK, but they had never been to this country. Maybe now there are more serious requirements for the opening of firms, but for a long time I do not believe that in these countries the interests of non-citizens will be protected.If I want to invest in companies, then it is better to use the stock market, where there is very tight control.
You are right!
Even when I tried to take a legal action in UK and I had a representative, the gesture was that the case won't be treated as important. It will need my presence in UK to facilitate hearing or whatever. I finally gave up.
I had counted it as a mistake, it is better to invest in a decentralized project like bitcoin where everyone is treated equally or also in stock where there is tight control. Thanks for your advice.
Nothing new in scam schemes. Fraudsters take advantage of the fact that the cost of legal fees and the costs of the applicant are much higher than the amount of lost funds. And if personal presence is still required, then the costs increase. And a lawyer cannot guarantee a 100% result, because it is unethical.
Have you tried filing a fraud report in your country? Most likely there will be no result, but this will complicate the life of scammers in the future.

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