Trump (GSA) clears the way for Biden Transition to begin

[squatz1]

Emily Murphy, the head of the GSA for the Trump administration, has given the okay to Biden to begin the transition process into the next administration. This clears the way for money and other resources to be given to the Biden campaign to begin filling posts and getting access to intelligence briefings / COVID distributions plans.

Pretty important for Biden to have the info on intelligence and COVID stuff so he isn't learning stuff on the first day.

Donald Trump continues to talk about the fact that he will fight this until the end as he has said that "people love a fighter"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-pressure-gsa-to-name-biden-winner-start-transition-11606172086?mod=hp_lead_pos1

[suchmoon]

About time. Even though this pretty much ended my gambling binge on PredictIt... not a lot of free money remaining there LOL

I wonder what's the general mood among the "base" - do they really still believe Trump can win this? It's hard to tell from the news.

[squatz1]

About time. Even though this pretty much ended my gambling binge on PredictIt... not a lot of free money remaining there LOL

I wonder what's the general mood among the "base" - do they really still believe Trump can win this? It's hard to tell from the news.

Curious on what things you bet on to make some free money. I know we'd been talking about it on some other threads, though it would be nice to see what ones were 'free money' for you.

I think one of the most important areas to check to see what the base is thinking is to go to Fox News, NewsMax, and then OANN. Pretty good what to see what the base is currently thinking about things. Right now I think they're still thinking there is mass voter fraud, that's the thoughts from some of my BIG TRUMPER family members.

[suchmoon]

Curious on what things you bet on to make some free money. I know we'd been talking about it on some other threads, though it would be nice to see what ones were 'free money' for you.

Which party will win GA in 2020?  <- bought, sold, bought again... this one was nice, went up and down a few times.
Which party will win AZ in 2020? etc
Basically all available "Which party will win <any state> in 2020" markets, there were maybe 5 or 6
Also "<state> Dem primary winner elected president?" <- proxy markets for Biden win because I was too late to bet on the main presidential election market.
Then some really stupid ones, like betting "No" on "Pennsylvania margin of victory - GOP by 3% or more".
~20 markets total that average to about ~9% gain after all fees. Not bad for a couple of weeks, assuming these will settle within the next few days. For some reason PredictIt is keeping open even the ones that have been certified by the states.

I consider these "free money" because mathematically and historically any recounts etc would not have changed the results and the legal challenges were extremely weak. Those should have been 95:5 markets at most and they were trading as low as 80:20 at times, and that was after the votes had been counted... nuts.

I missed out on the GSA transition start date market unfortunately. But maybe that's for the better. I would have bet wrong. Didn't expect it to happen today.

Now the remaining profitable low risk ones are mostly "Who will be <insert cabinet position> on March 1" - betting "No" on Trump's people. Like against Pompeo being Secretary of State... the only problem is that I may need to wait until March 1 or at least until mid-January for trumpists to give up and let me take my profit so that's kinda meh.

Anyway, it's all because of the $850 limit per market, otherwise I would have put everything on popular vote or something - yes, there still are people betting on Trump winning the popular vote LOL.

I think one of the most important areas to check to see what the base is thinking is to go to Fox News, NewsMax, and then OANN. Pretty good what to see what the base is currently thinking about things. Right now I think they're still thinking there is mass voter fraud, that's the thoughts from some of my BIG TRUMPER family members.

I tried watching Newsmax. I don't really get what's their end game. Will they keep this up for the next four years? Seems unsustainable. At some point they will have to admit that the whole massive fraud conspiracy was BS. No? Kraken didn't show up.

[squatz1]

Curious on what things you bet on to make some free money. I know we'd been talking about it on some other threads, though it would be nice to see what ones were 'free money' for you.

Which party will win GA in 2020?  <- bought, sold, bought again... this one was nice, went up and down a few times.
Which party will win AZ in 2020? etc
Basically all available "Which party will win <any state> in 2020" markets, there were maybe 5 or 6
Also "<state> Dem primary winner elected president?" <- proxy markets for Biden win because I was too late to bet on the main presidential election market.
Then some really stupid ones, like betting "No" on "Pennsylvania margin of victory - GOP by 3% or more".
~20 markets total that average to about ~9% gain after all fees. Not bad for a couple of weeks, assuming these will settle within the next few days. For some reason PredictIt is keeping open even the ones that have been certified by the states.

I consider these "free money" because mathematically and historically any recounts etc would not have changed the results and the legal challenges were extremely weak. Those should have been 95:5 markets at most and they were trading as low as 80:20 at times, and that was after the votes had been counted... nuts.

I missed out on the GSA transition start date market unfortunately. But maybe that's for the better. I would have bet wrong. Didn't expect it to happen today.

Now the remaining profitable low risk ones are mostly "Who will be <insert cabinet position> on March 1" - betting "No" on Trump's people. Like against Pompeo being Secretary of State... the only problem is that I may need to wait until March 1 or at least until mid-January for trumpists to give up and let me take my profit so that's kinda meh.

Anyway, it's all because of the $850 limit per market, otherwise I would have put everything on popular vote or something - yes, there still are people betting on Trump winning the popular vote LOL.

I think one of the most important areas to check to see what the base is thinking is to go to Fox News, NewsMax, and then OANN. Pretty good what to see what the base is currently thinking about things. Right now I think they're still thinking there is mass voter fraud, that's the thoughts from some of my BIG TRUMPER family members.

I tried watching Newsmax. I don't really get what's their end game. Will they keep this up for the next four years? Seems unsustainable. At some point they will have to admit that the whole massive fraud conspiracy was BS. No? Kraken didn't show up.

Interesting on the PredictIt stuff, I'm going to have to take a look relatively shortly to see if there's anything I can make some money on now. LOL. Seem to have missed the boat on that one. Making 9% (not sure if you're including CC rewards) is pretty nice, and there doesn't seem to be too many short term opportunities for that left. But that's life.

In regards to NewsMax, pretty sure they're just going to try to be a OAN type news source where the only thing they really try to do is spew conspiracy theories about random shit that conservatives are talking about that day. Kinda assuming that the whole business plan is to try to siphon off some of the die hard conservatives from Fox and use that as a springboard to grow. In the short term that works with NewsMax, and I also assume OAN, though data on their viewers isn't publicly available. Long term? Who the hell knows, it'll still be able to bring those die hard Trumpers if Trump continues to tweet about them as his preferred source.

[suchmoon]

Interesting on the PredictIt stuff, I'm going to have to take a look relatively shortly to see if there's anything I can make some money on now. LOL. Seem to have missed the boat on that one. Making 9% (not sure if you're including CC rewards) is pretty nice, and there doesn't seem to be too many short term opportunities for that left. But that's life.

They finally paid out the popular vote bet, which means a few million bucks went from that into other bets bringing the prices on the easy ones up to $0.94-0.95, which makes it unprofitable for new deposits due to the withdrawal fees but acceptable to those who have funds already on the site.

In regards to NewsMax, pretty sure they're just going to try to be a OAN type news source where the only thing they really try to do is spew conspiracy theories about random shit that conservatives are talking about that day. Kinda assuming that the whole business plan is to try to siphon off some of the die hard conservatives from Fox and use that as a springboard to grow. In the short term that works with NewsMax, and I also assume OAN, though data on their viewers isn't publicly available. Long term? Who the hell knows, it'll still be able to bring those die hard Trumpers if Trump continues to tweet about them as his preferred source.

I guess I'm expecting too much, but how long can you scream about the dumbest possible conspiracies without ever showing any proof. When Trump has to leave the White House and there is no promised SCOTUS intervention, what are Newsmax or OAN people going to say? SCOTUS controlled by Democracts? Wasn't nominating 3 new judges Trump's greatest achievement?

Seems like a completely unsustainable path of lies. Maybe the viewers don't really care as long as they hear what they want to hear.

[Gyfts]

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Seems like the low betting limits skews some of odds. As in, someone betting 20k would be a moron to bet on a Trump win right now whereas some alcoholic degenerate gambler with their last 100 bucks could be throwing a hail marry on a Trump win.

Usually the big players are more confident in their predictions.

[DaveF]

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I consider these "free money" because mathematically and historically any recounts etc would not have changed the results and the legal challenges were extremely weak. Those should have been 95:5 markets at most and they were trading as low as 80:20 at times, and that was after the votes had been counted... nuts.

I missed out on the GSA transition start date market unfortunately. But maybe that's for the better. I would have bet wrong. Didn't expect it to happen today.

Now the remaining profitable low risk ones are mostly "Who will be <insert cabinet position> on March 1" - betting "No" on Trump's people. Like against Pompeo being Secretary of State... the only problem is that I may need to wait until March 1 or at least until mid-January for trumpists to give up and let me take my profit so that's kinda meh.

Anyway, it's all because of the $850 limit per market, otherwise I would have put everything on popular vote or something - yes, there still are people betting on Trump winning the popular vote LOL.
...

I'm sure you can find some more people here who are still convinced that Trump is going to win.
Most of them probably don't have any money to bet (or any money at all for that matter), but I'm sure they are here.
You just have to find them and poke them a bit :-)

-Dave

[sirazimuth]

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I'm sure you can find some more people here who are still convinced that Trump is going to win.
Most of them probably don't have any money to bet (or any money at all for that matter), but I'm sure they are here.
You just have to find them and poke them a bit :-)

-Dave

Well around here they are pretty easy to find.
They squawk their nonsense all over the farm. No poke necessary, albeit that helps turn up their lunacy dial....

[Gyfts]

Biden announced his 100 day priorities: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/24/biden-on-his-first-100-days-immigration-bill-environment-and-coronavirus-relief/?sh=39275d14351b

One of the first things - Citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. Completely absurd, and I don't recall immigration being a topic during any of the debates either. Somehow Biden's plan of providing a pathway to citizenship for 11 million people slid under the radar.

[DaveF]

Biden announced his 100 day priorities: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/24/biden-on-his-first-100-days-immigration-bill-environment-and-coronavirus-relief/?sh=39275d14351b

One of the first things - Citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. Completely absurd, and I don't recall immigration being a topic during any of the debates either. Somehow Biden's plan of providing a pathway to citizenship for 11 million people slid under the radar.

You forgot the words "provides a pathway to" before the word Citizenship.
My bad, didn't see it while trying to display a large screen on my phone.

And he is not just writing an execute order he is going to send an immigration bill to the Senate.

So he gets to watch all the people on the right run around screaming. [Dave looks for popcorn eating emoji]
And he gets to watch all the people on the left run around cheering. [Still looking for popcorn eating emoji]
And nothing gets done anyway because it's going to get stuck in legal hell forever like most government things.

-Dave

[Gyfts]

Biden announced his 100 day priorities: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/24/biden-on-his-first-100-days-immigration-bill-environment-and-coronavirus-relief/?sh=39275d14351b

One of the first things - Citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. Completely absurd, and I don't recall immigration being a topic during any of the debates either. Somehow Biden's plan of providing a pathway to citizenship for 11 million people slid under the radar.

You forgot the words "provides a pathway to" before the word Citizenship.

And he is not just writing an execute order he is going to send an immigration bill to the Senate.

So he gets to watch all the people on the right run around screaming. [Dave looks for popcorn eating emoji]
And he gets to watch all the people on the left run around cheering. [Still looking for popcorn eating emoji]
And nothing gets done anyway because it's going to get stuck in legal hell forever like most government things.

-Dave

I forgot the words pathway to citizenship huh? Might want to have another look.

Biden announced his 100 day priorities: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/24/biden-on-his-first-100-days-immigration-bill-environment-and-coronavirus-relief/?sh=39275d14351b

One of the first things - Citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. Completely absurd, and I don't recall immigration being a topic during any of the debates either. Somehow Biden's plan of providing a pathway to citizenship for 11 million people slid under the radar.

It's insane and always has been insane. He is going to legalize millions of illegal immigrants and will skip the ones with felonies, which make a small part of the 11 million. That is what, 95% that would be eligible? Bat shit insanity.

It will get stuck in the senate, granted Republicans win. But what does it say about the democratic party if it takes Republicans to hold up insane bills?

[DaveF]

Biden announced his 100 day priorities: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/24/biden-on-his-first-100-days-immigration-bill-environment-and-coronavirus-relief/?sh=39275d14351b

One of the first things - Citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. Completely absurd, and I don't recall immigration being a topic during any of the debates either. Somehow Biden's plan of providing a pathway to citizenship for 11 million people slid under the radar.

You forgot the words "provides a pathway to" before the word Citizenship.

And he is not just writing an execute order he is going to send an immigration bill to the Senate.

So he gets to watch all the people on the right run around screaming. [Dave looks for popcorn eating emoji]
And he gets to watch all the people on the left run around cheering. [Still looking for popcorn eating emoji]
And nothing gets done anyway because it's going to get stuck in legal hell forever like most government things.

-Dave

I forgot the words pathway to citizenship huh? Might want to have another look.

Biden announced his 100 day priorities: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/24/biden-on-his-first-100-days-immigration-bill-environment-and-coronavirus-relief/?sh=39275d14351b

One of the first things - Citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. Completely absurd, and I don't recall immigration being a topic during any of the debates either. Somehow Biden's plan of providing a pathway to citizenship for 11 million people slid under the radar.

It's insane and always has been insane. He is going to legalize millions of illegal immigrants and will skip the ones with felonies, which make a small part of the 11 million. That is what, 95% that would be eligible? Bat shit insanity.

It will get stuck in the senate, granted Republicans win. But what does it say about the democratic party if it takes Republicans to hold up insane bills?

Sorry my bad, on mobile and remoting into my desktop. Missed the entire line of text.

Either way I still stick to the rest of the post that it's going to sit in legal fighting for years.

-Dave

[The1Duke]

Biden announced his 100 day priorities: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/24/biden-on-his-first-100-days-immigration-bill-environment-and-coronavirus-relief/?sh=39275d14351b

One of the first things - Citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. Completely absurd, and I don't recall immigration being a topic during any of the debates either. Somehow Biden's plan of providing a pathway to citizenship for 11 million people slid under the radar.

You forgot the words "provides a pathway to" before the word Citizenship.

And he is not just writing an execute order he is going to send an immigration bill to the Senate.

So he gets to watch all the people on the right run around screaming. [Dave looks for popcorn eating emoji]
And he gets to watch all the people on the left run around cheering. [Still looking for popcorn eating emoji]
And nothing gets done anyway because it's going to get stuck in legal hell forever like most government things.

-Dave

I forgot the words pathway to citizenship huh? Might want to have another look.

Biden announced his 100 day priorities: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/11/24/biden-on-his-first-100-days-immigration-bill-environment-and-coronavirus-relief/?sh=39275d14351b

One of the first things - Citizenship for 11 million illegal immigrants. Completely absurd, and I don't recall immigration being a topic during any of the debates either. Somehow Biden's plan of providing a pathway to citizenship for 11 million people slid under the radar.

It's insane and always has been insane. He is going to legalize millions of illegal immigrants and will skip the ones with felonies, which make a small part of the 11 million. That is what, 95% that would be eligible? Bat shit insanity.

It will get stuck in the senate, granted Republicans win. But what does it say about the democratic party if it takes Republicans to hold up insane bills?

Sorry my bad, on mobile and remoting into my desktop. Missed the entire line of text.

Either way I still stick to the rest of the post that it's going to sit in legal fighting for years.

-Dave

I'm not so sure about that, I feel like it would depend on whatever happens on the Georgia runoff or maybe supreme court shenanigans, but ultimately I don't think it's gonna get done or that they care about it for anything other than having something to grandstand about.

[BADecker]

Just because Trump told the GSA to prepare for moving ahead, doesn't mean he is telling them to do so, yet. Why wouldn't he tell them to do so tight now? His legal team and the DoD are preparing to catch even more vote fraud criminals.


GSA chief Emily Murphy details threats to her life, family, pets

Earlier Monday, President Donald Trump tweeted that he had told Murphy to move ahead with plans for a transition, though he reiterated that he believed he would prevail in his legal challenges to the results of the election in several key states.

In a letter to Biden notifying him that the GSA would make federal resources available to him in the event he was certified as the winner of the presidential election, Murphy said she had never been told by the White House to delay the transition.

She added: "I did, however, receive threats online, by phone, and by mail directed at my safety, my family, my staff, and even my pets in an effort to coerce me into making this determination prematurely."

On Sunday, CNN's Jake Tapper told viewers that Murphy would be responsible for the deaths of Americans if she did not begin the transition process, ostensibly because Biden's team would not have information necessary to distribute vaccines provided by Trump's Operation Warp Speed.

"Her actions could very well hamper the Biden team's ability to deal with the pandemic when they take over. It is a matter of life and death," Tapper said, warning that her "legacy will be written in stone."

[DaveF]

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I consider these "free money" because mathematically and historically any recounts etc would not have changed the results and the legal challenges were extremely weak. Those should have been 95:5 markets at most and they were trading as low as 80:20 at times, and that was after the votes had been counted... nuts.

I missed out on the GSA transition start date market unfortunately. But maybe that's for the better. I would have bet wrong. Didn't expect it to happen today.

Now the remaining profitable low risk ones are mostly "Who will be <insert cabinet position> on March 1" - betting "No" on Trump's people. Like against Pompeo being Secretary of State... the only problem is that I may need to wait until March 1 or at least until mid-January for trumpists to give up and let me take my profit so that's kinda meh.

Anyway, it's all because of the $850 limit per market, otherwise I would have put everything on popular vote or something - yes, there still are people betting on Trump winning the popular vote LOL.
...

I'm sure you can find some more people here who are still convinced that Trump is going to win.
Most of them probably don't have any money to bet (or any money at all for that matter), but I'm sure they are here.
You just have to find them and poke them a bit :-)

-Dave

Just because Trump told the GSA to prepare for moving ahead, doesn't mean he is telling them to do so, yet. Why wouldn't he tell them to do so tight now? His legal team and the DoD are preparing to catch even more vote fraud criminals.
...

So, are you all talk? Or do you want to put any money on it?
I'm thinking that you are just one of those all talk and no action.
I'll give you the same odds and same rules that PN7 and I agreed on: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287833

-Dave

[sirazimuth]

.... His legal team and the DoD are preparing to catch even more vote fraud criminals.
...

Indeed they will bud!
With his crack team of lawyers including Sidney  "discoverer of massive voter fraud evidence from Hugo Chavez"  Powell and Rudy "4 seasons landscaping" Giuliani.

I believe they are gonna release the kraken any time now and this fraudulent election will be reversed and our dear old potus who lost the votus will rightfully win,
due to all this amazing evidence. (never mind judges are laughing it out of court, it's all true, cuz its on the intertoobz, doncha know)
Thank goodness for these folks. Otherwise this country might look like an embarrassing banana republic to the rest of the world.

BTW, How's that magic sky fairy friend of yours doing?
I know that's off topic but you haven't mentioned him lately. just curious.

[Spendulus]

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It will get stuck in the senate, granted Republicans win. But what does it say about the democratic party if it takes Republicans to hold up insane bills?

So far we've had four years of that, what else is new?

[sirazimuth]

.... what else is new?

We made America great again. (Starting at noon on Jan 20, 2021)

[suchmoon]

It's insane and always has been insane. He is going to legalize millions of illegal immigrants and will skip the ones with felonies, which make a small part of the 11 million. That is what, 95% that would be eligible? Bat shit insanity.

Trump still has a couple of months to deport them all - problem solved.