Do you want more or less freedom?

[LoyceV]

This forum offers more freedom than any forum I've ever seen, but unfortunately, I often see people petition for less freedom.

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[actmyname]

The pedantry of the term "freedom" aside, some users choose to compromise their identity to align with the forum's interests, unaware that contributions to a greater unified entity require the restrictions of the individual which thereby impact the connections required to impart the very structure they develop.

[suchmoon]

I voted to ban sarcasm because clearly there are too many wannabe snarky assholes trying to upset my monopoly thereof. Shoo.

Edit: there's no freedom, haven't you watched the Matrix documentaries? SMH

[LoyceV]

The pedantry of the term "freedom" aside

I meant the one about expression, not about oil

[mindrust]

The current rule set is fine. No change is needed imo.

If SJWs take over, I quit.

If you don't want to see some one, just hit ignore.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I often see people petition for less freedom.

You do?  Where are these people so that we can rid them of their wrongthink and show them what real freedom is and what will be required of them?

The pedantry of the term "freedom" aside, some users choose to compromise their identity to align with the forum's interests, unaware that contributions to a greater unified entity require the restrictions of the individual which thereby impact the connections required to impart the very structure they develop.

404 error.

If SJWs take over, I quit.

You know, I'm actually kind of surprised that I haven't seen more of the SJW ideology being espoused on the forum, since it seems to have permeated even the tiniest cracks of the interwebz.  So I don't think bitcointalk is in imminent danger of crazy far-left liberal infiltration--and yeah, should I see any of that nonsense I'll hit the ignore button so hard and fast I'll need a new mouse afterward.

On a somewhat more serious note: what's prompting you to create this thread, OP?

[decodx]

Almost any rule or regulation takes away a part of the freedom of the individual. But, could we live in a society without rules?
Where do we draw the line between freedom of expression and anarchy?

[notblox1]

Just don't let Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg takeover Bitcointalk forum, and will be just fine, but I think Mining section is the place with less freedom then rest of the forum.   

[suchmoon]

Just don't let Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg takeover Bitcointalk forum

Too late. Have you been to the bounty board? It's all just twitface links.

[decodx]

Just don't let Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg takeover Bitcointalk forum

Too late. Have you been to the bounty board? It's all just twitface links.

Please add "Ban users who submit proof of authentication and report posts" to your poll questions.

[pugman]

While freedom is cool, bounties and other awfully managed campaigns need to brought in check. Don't ban the concept of avatar/signature campaign, ban the users who cause the shitshow these campaigns bring in. Forum needs a little, just a tad bit more of stricter rules, and I think there'd be a better balance to things than what there currently is.

On a somewhat more serious note: what's prompting you to create this thread, OP?

This is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293230.msg55681694#msg55681694

It belongs in meta in my opinion as it looks like he's asking the forum admins to prohibit it or make a rule against it.

In that case: What is it with people asking to take away freedoms all the time? This forum gives freedom, enjoy it! There are millions of websites out there that don't give you freedom, don't try to turn Bitcointalk into that direction. Please!

Maybe it would be a good idea to organize some kind of petition? If enough people agree with this idea, maybe the forum administrators will react and introduce some kind of rule or restriction for bounty campaign organizers.

Here you go.

[mindrust]

Just don't let Jack Dorsey and Mark Zuckerberg takeover Bitcointalk forum

Too late. Have you been to the bounty board? It's all just twitface links.

I don't think it makes sense to compare btt to twitter.

One of them is a government apparatus, the other is a simple blog with a main discussion topic. (crypto/btc)

Twitter is so much bigger they can reach more clueless noobs there. They are not making twitter bigger by posting those links, they do it because twitter is already bigger.

I also find it interesting that there is almost no competition to those Big Tech social media.

Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.. they all act like one entity and nobody knows anything else.

[actmyname]

I also find it interesting that there is almost no competition to those Big Tech social media.

Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.. they all act like one entity and nobody knows anything else.

Considering Instagram is owned by Facebook, that isn't hard to believe.

The other important thing to note about these social media platforms is that one primary marketplace for the consumer is under the umbrella of a social investment. If you aren't on these platforms that have received the first-mover bias of the initial growth then it makes sense to join the most populous platform (when a typical person does not really discern between large entities and consequences of use). Moreover, you are confronted with the exclusion of a "community/tribe" of your social circles which (presumably) take place on these platforms.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Where is the option to vote against allowing votes?

[jackg]

If SJWs take over, I quit.

You know, I'm actually kind of surprised that I haven't seen more of the SJW ideology being espoused on the forum, since it seems to have permeated even the tiniest cracks of the interwebz.  So I don't think bitcointalk is in imminent danger of crazy far-left liberal infiltration--and yeah, should I see any of that nonsense I'll hit the ignore button so hard and fast I'll need a new mouse afterward.

On a somewhat more serious note: what's prompting you to create this thread, OP?

The far left expect everything for free. If you think you could and will convince everyone to turn communist (so you can do no work) why would you bother investing in stocks now? It's like how it's possible to make a company where employees own an equal stake while working at the company and the company passes its profits on - but not many do...

I'd hope we'd manage to stamp out far leftism and far rightism as strongly as possible from the forum along with any pro authoritarian peeps that come along who want their privacy sacrificing to big data farms.


Where's my vote to ban those who don't vote?

[Upgrade00]

The rules of the forum are clear and very easy to keep to; in summary what one has to do is not plagiarize, spread malwares or spam the forum. Not so difficult, right?
I would definitely not prefer the forum to be less stringent as that would reduce the overall quality of the forum (do not lower the bar to accommodate the crowd), although I would vote for the welcome message to be implemented asap. The forum could be a bit of a jumble for new members when they open it for the first time, and a pointer showing how to navigate through, as well as the ethics of it would be a plus.

ban users who don't capitalize sentences

How this option sticks out from the rest cause it's not capitalized makes me want to vote for this, but pooya87 is a valuable member to the forum, so I'll pardon the rest who do it.

[icalical]

Obviously, I prefer full freedom in this forum, but there is nothing wrong to make any kind of petition.
Now, as part of my freedom, I want to make a petition to stop people from making a petition.

[LTU_btc]

Maybe ban theymos?
Also, ban people who leave space before punctuation and Capitalise Every Word - they really offend me .
Seriously, I'm fine. I think level of democracy is optimal here.

I also find it interesting that there is almost no competition to those Big Tech social media.

Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.. they all act like one entity and nobody knows anything else.

Well, actually Facebook and Instagram is one entity. Even if serious competitor will appear, I think it's only matter of time until it will turn into another shit like these giants.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Omg 9 votes for ban the OP.
If you guys ban the Switzerland's AI all you guys are doomed.

Seriously, poor theymos (BTW he banned Satoshi, so he is the problem)

[Joel_Jantsen]

Does freedom/free will even exist in a world full of hedonists? Forum is a very small part of it, and if one can't get themselves used to the rules here, they must rebel against the governments, the communists, the hippies, and the cults.

It's time Theymos introduces a checkbox while creating an account on the forum to abide by the terms and conditions here so all the wannabe Marxists can fuck right off from the start.