The Kracken!

[Spendulus]

Two United States District Court judges blocked Trump campaign election challenges in Georgia and Michigan Monday, slamming them for their overreach and presumption. The dismissed Georgia case was the infamous “Kraken” lawsuit filed by Trump attorney Sidney Powell.

So that's it, the Kraken has been slain. And it didn't even take the head of Medusa to cast a gaze and turn it to stone. Just a couple frumpy judges reiterating what the intelligent masses have already known: Trump is out of his mind.

Little bit more then that.

Trump and his legal team is out of their mind...

THAT EXPLAINS IT!

Nice that you've made it so clear to us all.

It never would have occurred to me that they were all out of their mind.

Oh, wait, this is just more Trump hate and Trump ridicule.

[TwitchySeal]

My belief all along has been that this matter would go to SCOTUS, and thus the events in Georgia are only transient.

When I said earlier this was going to be six months of a shitshow, that's basically the process I was talking about. I wasn't happy about this then and I'm not now.
Granted, there are deadlines. But SCOTUS and Trump ganging up will mean Joe and Hoe are DONE.

Now the Kraken is awake.

Is this still your belief?

[BADecker]

Oh, wait, this is just more Trump hate and Trump ridicule.

It's our duty as American citizens to ridicule Trump and his attempt to baselessly undermine the legitimacy of our electoral process.

"Hate" is a strong word. I don't care about him enough to hate him. Pointing out that he is sore loser seems to be good enough for now.

So when military intelligence is watching the ballots being switched from Trump to Biden, and watching it being done through other countries...

Are you ridiculing Trump for not going in after those criminals on the spot like you would have? International makes it war. We're at war with Spain, Canada, and Germany at least... cyberwar. You might add China and a few more countries by the time this is done. Plus all the American media that was aiding and abetting the enemy, and even Biden because he was colluding with international enemies.

This kind of Cyberwar is different than any other. It's taking Trump as long as it is, because he is trying to net in as many crooks and criminals as possible without bring the whole thing to formal guns and bombs war. Give him a break. Things like this take a while.

[squatz1]

Two United States District Court judges blocked Trump campaign election challenges in Georgia and Michigan Monday, slamming them for their overreach and presumption. The dismissed Georgia case was the infamous “Kraken” lawsuit filed by Trump attorney Sidney Powell.

So that's it, the Kraken has been slain. And it didn't even take the head of Medusa to cast a gaze and turn it to stone. Just a couple frumpy judges reiterating what the intelligent masses have already known: Trump is out of his mind.

Little bit more then that.

Trump and his legal team is out of their mind...

THAT EXPLAINS IT!

Nice that you've made it so clear to us all.

It never would have occurred to me that they were all out of their mind.

Oh, wait, this is just more Trump hate and Trump ridicule.

I mean if you want to argue a point here then that's something. I'm really giving the Trump admin/campaign the benefit of the doubt when it comes to why they're doing all of this.

I don't think the admin thinks they'll be able to overturn the elections, and I don't think the intention of any of these lawsuits was to do that. They're trying to maintain the dominance of Trump on the GOP and that's the only thing they're trying to do here.

Can we agree on that? Or no?

[TwitchySeal]

They're trying to maintain the dominance of Trump on the GOP and that's the only thing they're trying to do here.

Also convince people to give Trump money (that they think will help him win a second term but actually goes to pay off his debt).

[squatz1]

They're trying to maintain the dominance of Trump on the GOP and that's the only thing they're trying to do here.

Also convince people to give Trump money (that they think will help him win a second term but actually goes to pay off his debt).

Just to be completely transparent, that is to pay for debt from the campaign. Not for personal debt, business debt, or anything along those lines. Very common for campaigns to use debt as a way to leverage themselves, though the lack of transparency when it comes to 'election fraud security payments' being used to pay mostly campaign debt is the bullshit part here.

Not sure what the split is in regards to how much is servicing debt and how much is going to the lawyers, but yeah.

Trying to ensure that no one can try to cut up your argument on some BS technical point.

[Spendulus]

They're trying to maintain the dominance of Trump on the GOP and that's the only thing they're trying to do here.

Also convince people to give Trump money (that they think will help him win a second term but actually goes to pay off his debt).

Darn, I had not thought of that. I will send money!

I mean if you want to argue a point here then that's something. I'm really giving the Trump admin/campaign the benefit of the doubt when it comes to why they're doing all of this.

I don't think the admin thinks they'll be able to overturn the elections, and I don't think the intention of any of these lawsuits was to do that. They're trying to maintain the dominance of Trump on the GOP and that's the only thing they're trying to do here.

Can we agree on that? Or no?

No. You said they were "out of their minds," don't wimp out and try to find some reasonable middle ground. That's your point, no shifting the goalposts and trying to make it like you are some logical and reasonable thinker. You're trying to give them the "benefit of the doubt" when you call them "out of their minds?" You are making things up.

'Fraid I'm laughing at this.

Let's put like this. I'd love to tell you "you were out of your mind" and have you say "Yes, I was." I expect you to say, in this circumstance "blah blah BLAH."

I do not think you are honest enough to say "Yes, I was", but let's see what poker hand is delt next.

Cheers!

[sirazimuth]

.... Rudy Giuliani is not someone you have around when you think you're going to win a legal case and be done with it. He's someone you have around when you're trying to make a media spectacle of the whole thing.
....

This is so true.
And what with him getting pranked/caught with his hands down his pants adjusting his junk thinking he's gonna get a little action with a nubile reporter,
holding a presser next to a dildo shop, and a crematorium,
wiping his mouth with a snot ridden sweaty handkerchief,
having his hair dye drool down the sides of his face, (or wtf that disgusting shit was)
calling a batshit loony tunes drunk as a star witness,
and loudly farting twice on camera....he has certainly not disappointed.
And now he tests positive for COVID-19 after going mask less at all these farcical "hearings".
(Even asking a masked witness to remove their mask. wtf?)

You can’t make this shit up.

[mindrust]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-court-brief/several-u-s-states-back-texas-bid-to-upend-biden-election-win-at-supreme-court-idUSKBN28J2WE

Seventeen U.S. states on Wednesday filed a brief at the U.S. Supreme Court supporting a bid by Texas to overturn the presidential election results.

Are these 17 U.S. states all crazy (out of their minds) ? Because they all think the election was a fraud...

What if the other half is crazy?

[Spendulus]

... something is off. And I can't find any more information, weird. Oh, BTW, 17 isn't half of the states, that would be 25...

Not if we hired some of your proven track record "counting experts" and let them use their favorite Dominion machines.

...
This is so true.
And what with him getting ....
You can’t make this shit up.

It's nice to see you actually remembering your scripts, and practicing them.

ALINSKY'S RULES FOR RADICALS
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)


But you need to strive harder, and practice more. Be sure the bitter, aggrieved tone is dominant in the argument. Also problematic is that Alinsky did not advocate random babbling on the Internet, but direct confrontation. So you are not even following the directives.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-court-brief/several-u-s-states-back-texas-bid-to-upend-biden-election-win-at-supreme-court-idUSKBN28J2WE

Seventeen U.S. states on Wednesday filed a brief at the U.S. Supreme Court supporting a bid by Texas to overturn the presidential election results.

Are these 17 U.S. states all crazy (out of their minds) ? Because they all think the election was a fraud...

What if the other half is crazy?

Wow, that's the shortest news article I've ever seen... something is off. And I can't find any more information, weird. Oh, BTW, 17 isn't half of the states, that would be 25. But it really depends on what those 17 states are, which the story doesn't mention.

It's nice to see you at least trying to understand what is actually going on. This link explains the merits of the case. Responses from the four states are due today at 3pm. IMHO this is a well formed set of arguments that the SCOTUS can act on.

https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/essays-and-commentaries/if-election-issues-are-not-fixed-elected-state-republicans-must-refuse-to-certify/

This discussion has more info and links to the actual court documents.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/12/texas-sues-pennsylvania-georgia-michigan-and-wisconsin-in-u-s-supreme-court-to-have-legislatures-appoint-electors/

My prediction of a total six month shitshow remains...

FEAR THE KRAKEN! THE KRAKEN IS HERE!

[Spendulus]

Texas requests the following in it's SCOTUS case. The real world implications of these short arguments may not be obvious. The decision as to what to do to comply with the SCOTUS ruling would be up to those states.

Likely the four states' congress would each pick electors; if they chose not to the US Congress would pick them.

Ted Cruz may argue this case. I wonder how strong a defense the defendants will make. They don't have to make a defense at all. A ruling for Texas doesn't take away the right of the state to choose it's electors, but requires the results of the dirty 11-3 voting process to not be used to pick them.

May be interesting to hear the arguments and rebuttals. Although the strength of the constitutional arguments in the plea are most important, some rebuttals are arguable. Expect the SC to rule 5-4 to grant the plea of the State of Texas. Really it should be 9-0.

The simplest outcome of this would be the Republican congress of the four states to each produce a set of Trump electors, and Trump becomes POTUS on 1-20. Other outcomes are possible that also lead to Trump winning, and of course SC could not find for Texas, or find for Texas in part. The defendant states could get deadlocked and toss the problem to the US House, where one would expect the full house vote to be pro-Trump. But if Pelosi stalled that, she could wind up POTUS, whether for a day, a week, whatever; until the SC required swift action. I think that's right.


PRAYER FOR RELIEF
WHEREFORE, Plaintiff States respectfully request that this Court issue the following relief:

A. Declare that Defendant States Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin administered the 2020 presidential election in violation of the Electors Clause and the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

B. Declare that any electoral college votes cast by such presidential electors appointed in Defendant States Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin are in violation of the Electors Clause and the Fourteenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and cannot be counted.

C. Enjoin Defendant States’ use of the 2020 election results for the Office of President to appoint presidential electors to the Electoral College.

D. Enjoin Defendant States’ use of the 2020 election results for the Office of President to appoint presidential electors to the Electoral College and authorize, pursuant to the Court’s remedial authority, the Defendant States to conduct a special election to appoint presidential electors.

E. If any of Defendant States have already appointed presidential electors to the Electoral College using the 2020 election results, direct such States’ legislatures, pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 2 and U.S. CONST. art. II, § 1, cl. 2, to appoint a new set of presidential electors in a manner that does not violate the Electors Clause and the Fourteenth Amendment, or to appoint no presidential electors at all.

F. Enjoin the Defendant States from certifying presidential electors or otherwise meeting for purposes of the electoral college pursuant to 3 U.S.C. § 5, 3 U.S.C. § 7, or applicable law pending further order of this Court.

G. Award costs to Plaintiff State.

H. Grant such other relief as the Court deems just and proper.

https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/admin/2020/Press/SCOTUSFiling.pdf?

[suchmoon]

Likely the four states' congress would each pick electors; if they chose not to the US Congress would pick them.

Why bother with congress, just let Trump pick them.

This will be thrown out like dozens of other fantasy "lawsuits". On the bright side, it shows just how full of shit the supposed "constitutionalists" really are, and SCOTUS might oblige to provide some schooling on the subject.

[Spendulus]

Likely the four states' congress would each pick electors; if they chose not to the US Congress would pick them.

....SCOTUS might oblige to provide some schooling on the subject.

Are you ready to receive that schooling?

[suchmoon]

Are you ready to receive that schooling?

Absolutely. I'm not so sure you're ready yet to accept Trump's loss though. I assume this is the bargaining stage. I don't recall if depression comes before or after. Have you felt depressed at all lately?

[sirazimuth]

It's nice to see you actually remembering your scripts, and practicing them.

......

Why thanx bro! I'll put it to music and send you the link so you can update your favorites playlist...

[BADecker]

Are you ready to receive that schooling?

Absolutely. I'm not so sure you're ready yet to accept Trump's loss though. I assume this is the bargaining stage. I don't recall if depression comes before or after. Have you felt depressed at all lately?

Trump hasn't lost. But even if he loses formally, he has set things into play that will take criminal Biden and his criminal controllers down anyway.

[Spendulus]

Are you ready to receive that schooling?

Absolutely. I'm not so sure you're ready yet to accept Trump's loss though. I assume this is the bargaining stage. I don't recall if depression comes before or after. Have you felt depressed at all lately?

For me, the prospect on 11-4 was and remains a six month shitshow, and yeah, that is depressing. But that is regardless of who emerges as POTUS. Any sane person would see that.

Here is your situation. The intense, heavy pushing of the narrative in the media that "Biden is Pres Elect", the media helping by banning conservative content, many other things now do not matter. At all.

You have a conservative leaning SCOTUS, at least 18 states presenting a plea to that body to solve a problem. The problem involves as Defendant, 4 status with Republican legislatures (but apparent Democratic control of critical election organization.)

So three bunches of "Republicans" are going to solve this between themselves.

I can guess how three bunches of Democrats would handle such a thing. About the next 24 hours is the timeframe to place your bets at those market odds of what was it? 10:1? You've been advised.

[BADecker]

Are you ready to receive that schooling?

Absolutely. I'm not so sure you're ready yet to accept Trump's loss though. I assume this is the bargaining stage. I don't recall if depression comes before or after. Have you felt depressed at all lately?

For me, the prospect on 11-4 was and remains a six month shitshow, and yeah, that is depressing. But that is regardless of who emerges as POTUS. Any sane person would see that.

Here is your situation. The intense, heavy pushing of the narrative in the media that "Biden is Pres Elect", the media helping by banning conservative content, many other things now do not matter. At all.

You have a conservative leaning SCOTUS, at least 18 states presenting a plea to that body to solve a problem. The problem involves as Defendant, 4 status with Republican legislatures (but apparent Democratic control of critical election organization.)

So three bunches of "Republicans" are going to solve this between themselves.

I can guess how three bunches of Democrats would handle such a thing. About the next 24 hours is the timeframe to place your bets at those market odds of what was it? 10:1? You've been advised.

The plea is the problem. A plea is what is done in a complaint to government or a part thereof. What needs to be done is a claim. What would the claim be? Perhaps $20 trillion to each State from the Federal if they don't adjudicate correctly. Then, let it go before a jury.

In addition, the States should claim for slightly different reasons. This way, if one of them fails, the others can still have at it.

[Spendulus]

It's nice to see you actually remembering your scripts, and practicing them.

......

Why thanx bro! I'll put it to music and send you the link so you can update your favorites playlist...

Okay, but be warned you are going to be down between Lightning Hopkins and Zhou Tonged

[suchmoon]

About the next 24 hours is the timeframe to place your bets at those market odds of what was it? 10:1? You've been advised.

Thanks for the advice, Mr. Too Broke To Bet Five Bucks.