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November 27, 2020, 12:05:36 PM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??
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November 27, 2020, 04:32:27 PM
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In the sam way, you can also consider social media platforms as a part of the crime as they help promote the scam too.

If there is a general rule about how to spot the scam project, don't expect anybody to help promote it.

Neither bounty participants or investors know from the start that the project is a scam. Both of them share the investment risk; investors with their money and bounty hunters with their efforts.

They are victims Not criminels.

 
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November 27, 2020, 06:02:05 PM
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It doesn't literally mean as a criminal. Those bounty hunters are also a victim of the fraud project if it ends up being a fake.

But if it's already caught up as a fraud, then the bounty keeps on helping it with a promotion. And that means that he's helping that fraud project to have exposure even thought it's already found out it's a scam.

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November 27, 2020, 07:08:33 PM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??

Are you saying that bounty hunter is a criminal if the projects turns out to be a scam ? He is actually a victim of this scam. The real criminals are those project owners who start the bounty to promote their projects but does not care to pay the bounty hunters at the end.
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November 27, 2020, 10:38:03 PM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??


No, bounty hunters are just advertisers and knowing that the project cant be known to be fraudulent in the initial phase then majority of hunters arent aware
that theyre advertising some scam and when the time they do know then its just right for them to stop right away.

You wouldnt really get paid if you do advertise a scam and about this matter then you shouldnt mind or stress up yourself too much with this.

Just do the right thing and since it isnt still legal then you cant be faced up any charges with this one.Just be sure to stick out with legit projects and if you do
find out for it to be fraud then its just right to stop.

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November 28, 2020, 03:50:09 AM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??
It's not a criminal, the scam bounty can appear anytime and that means who can't determine if that was a scam or legit campaign with a very high accuracy?
I think that you should learn the perspective to be a bounty hunter dude. If the hunters know the bounty was a scam and they will never waste their time to promote such a scam project because they will get no payment for sure.
Just think about that. There are so many awareness and the hunters must have kept update with this.

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November 28, 2020, 06:30:30 AM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??

Are you saying that bounty hunter is a criminal if the projects turns out to be a scam ? He is actually a victim of this scam. The real criminals are those project owners who start the bounty to promote their projects but does not care to pay the bounty hunters at the end.

Some people says that bounty manager is a part of the team and he is responsible for the people loss. This is also not the case. In most cases, bounty manager does not know the intentions of the project owners. But he should make sure to get the tokens in advance so that there is no issue in token distributions.

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November 28, 2020, 09:49:48 AM
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A fraudulent project will get caught at some time and exposed by other members of this forum. Now bounty hunters are knowledgeable about their payment, if they see a scam project they will stop supporting it and move on to another one.

They are not responsible for the scam, then we would have endless pages of user accounts who need to be red tagged and then forgiven after a few months to come clean. Thats not how this trust system on this forum works. They may be punished with a red tag temporarily by some DT member, still they will get PM spam regularly begging to remove that rating very soon.

Most bounty hunters are expected to do their own research on a project before investing but that does not completely remove the scams nor to-be-failures.

 
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November 28, 2020, 10:33:25 AM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??

Are you saying that bounty hunter is a criminal if the projects turns out to be a scam ? He is actually a victim of this scam. The real criminals are those project owners who start the bounty to promote their projects but does not care to pay the bounty hunters at the end.

Some people says that bounty manager is a part of the team and he is responsible for the people loss. This is also not the case. In most cases, bounty manager does not know the intentions of the project owners. But he should make sure to get the tokens in advance so that there is no issue in token distributions.

Bounty manager is not responsible if the project turn to become fraud project. But bounty manager need to assest the project and the team. They also getting paid for being a bounty manager. They need to do verification. Not only token will be paid or not but whole project.


 How come bounty manager does not understand the project he is promoting ?

It is not just bounty hunter getting rob but also investor money who invest in the project after reading article or seeing ignature ads..

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November 28, 2020, 08:16:04 PM
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Bounty manager is not responsible if the project turn to become fraud project. But bounty manager need to assest the project and the team. They also getting paid for being a bounty manager. They need to do verification. Not only token will be paid or not but whole project.
If a promotion of a scam is considered criminal, then the closest to the accusation (other than the project team) is the bounty manager if it has received payment. I will assume the manager's bounty has done research and is in charge of the promotion after receiving the contract approval.

However, sometimes the actual situation is different and the outcome is unpredictable. So it is not easy to say that anyone who has been involved in a scam project is considered a criminal without an intensive examination.

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November 28, 2020, 10:48:40 PM
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They will be involved if the first time they promoting the campaing they have known that the project is scam.  They deliberately promote a project that is indicated as a scam and offer the project to many people where there may be some people who are interested in what he is promoting until they follow and become victims.

But you have to know, making an analyst before you join a bounty campaign is really important. You have to know the ins and out about the project itself before you give your aplication. There are many threads about how to spot scam project and many thread related to it so there is no reason to say that you haven't known to catch them after the project is end in scam.
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November 28, 2020, 11:45:19 PM
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Hello Mates

Nothing to get stock or got shocked about some projects, there are some project that you have to do more research before participating in their bounty promotion, to me since i don't really know how to track about them; all i do is to follow some trusted bounty mangers to run their bounty as i trust they ran series of research before promoting those project including their ranks and levels in the platform.
i would advised you, just put an eyes on those bounty manager to know how you could work and got paid without your efforts being wasted for nothing.
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I understand the problem you are talking about here, but every mistake should not be blamed on bountyhunter, as they are the people doing the work that BM provides, but there are more scam projects than the ones we do can make money from bounty, because so I think here bountyhunter will have no errors, the fault will be for the BM if the management of poor quality projects.

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November 29, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
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in the end learns that projects fraudulent
If Bounty Hunters knew in the beginning that the project was fraudulent, no Bounty Hunter would have promoted that project. Even the bounty manager doesn't know that projects are fraudulent. Only team members know that projects are fraudulent. If someone does a deed even after knowing that it is wrong, it will be a crime. But after thinking a job is good, if the result is bad in the end, it is not a crime to call it a mistake. I think you understand the difference between the two.

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November 29, 2020, 11:30:01 AM
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The hunters are not criminal caused by the project has turned into the exit scam project. The hunters got nothing from the project too and remember if the hunters have been wasting a lot of their time and effort to promote the project. That's the same as you are losing your money due to the fraudulent project.
It's not a criminal and I do agree with some people above me too. We have ever scammed by the scam bounty.

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November 29, 2020, 03:38:17 PM
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What if a mandatory function on the forum is to pay for the work of hunters once a week + in ETH or project token.

In my opinion this would deter scammers!!
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November 29, 2020, 09:12:13 PM
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What if a mandatory function on the forum is to pay for the work of hunters once a week + in ETH or project token.

In my opinion this would deter scammers!!
AFAIK bitcointalk does not moderate any kind of campaigns that held on this forum, such kind of rules should be done by the individuals who managed the campaign. Indeed with that kind of rule will ensure bounty hunters to getting paid for their works but it doesn't protect the investors of the project/company from the exit scam scenario.
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November 30, 2020, 07:08:50 AM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??
Being a Bounty Hunter is not a sin and Being a Promoter is also not a sin.

When the hunters Apply and Join the Campaign He has a clean heart about to help the Project and Earn His payment as worker.

Those company is Good at it,They can pretend to be the most Legit Project in the world just to Make people believe and invest to the said project.

So having Liabilities when the Project turns Scam in the end?of course nothing that can be blame for hunters.


But It is also our obligation to Search deeper and Don't be Blinded of the Promise payment instead do your best to find if they are at least Real people and not Dummies .
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November 30, 2020, 04:49:49 PM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??

Bounty hunters are freelance promoters they are not a part of any project, they become a part of the project if they give their consent to participate and they are accepted in the campaign, and they can stop promoting the project anytime they want,
If they keep on promoting that are tagged as a scam project and they know it and continue promoting they can also get tagged for conniving with the scam project.

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November 30, 2020, 08:59:30 PM
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I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??

Bounty hunters are freelance promoters they are not a part of any project, they become a part of the project if they give their consent to participate and they are accepted in the campaign, and they can stop promoting the project anytime they want,
If they keep on promoting that are tagged as a scam project and they know it and continue promoting they can also get tagged for conniving with the scam project.
And thats the time that would be considered illegal but in overall jurisdiction since this isnt still regulated or some sort then anyone can freely advertise according to their own will

but on the sense that it wont really be that ethical on promoting on known scam project.You are helping them to stole money from its investors and its true that as a hunter we do have

the will and full control on stopping when we are already aware that we are dealing with a scam but overall bounty hunters arent really just right to be blamed off.

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