bounty hunter

[S_Therapist]

Most bounty hunters never do any analysis before prompting a project, at least a minimum research should be done. But they promote every project they see. Most projects turn out to be scam. I agree that hunters are also responsible for the success of this scam because they helped the project to grow but how many hunters care about other people's money? If they do, they would never promote every bounty.

[shoreno]

i searched the word criminal to be sure and results says that criminal are the one that commits a crime , heavy crimes like murders but a bounty hunters act is too light and i dont consider them as a criminal although it still bad because they help the real bad guys behind that project their working on but still , they are only a  victim on it .

bounty hunters often doesnt get paid and they still got a bad reputation . we shouldnt discriminate them please because this down thier selves too much

[kaseygriffin]

I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??

That's not it! blaming the hunter was incorrect when the project failed. But i think the problem will be with the BM and project team, because BM is the person who will be responsible for the process of bringing the project to the hunter, if the project is scam then part of the responsibility.

[TheUltraElite]

That's not it! blaming the hunter was incorrect when the project failed. But i think the problem will be with the BM and project team, because BM is the person who will be responsible for the process of bringing the project to the hunter, if the project is scam then part of the responsibility.

The manager is also not responsible. The team is the only group who could be held responsible but even they are not accountable since this is not a legally traded security. These projects are thus having all the possibility of going exit scam or just fail because you cannot sue them on any legal grounds.

This problem of non-legal securities with ICOs DeFi tokens has been well debated over and over and the consensus is that people who are taking part in them either by investing their money (investors) or investing their time/work (bounty hunters) are only responsible for their own losses.

There is nothing criminal to this on the hunters. They are taking a risk and they have their own self to blame if they waste it.

[AhmadM]

That's not it! blaming the hunter was incorrect when the project failed. But i think the problem will be with the BM and project team, because BM is the person who will be responsible for the process of bringing the project to the hunter, if the project is scam then part of the responsibility.

The campaign manager does not responsible if the project fails or become a scam project on the other days, the manager only takes responsibility for the campaign that he managed not the project unless he is a part of the teams or involved in the development of the project.

[Teraboy]

Most bounty hunters never do any analysis before prompting a project, at least a minimum research should be done. But they promote every project they see. Most projects turn out to be scam. I agree that hunters are also responsible for the success of this scam because they helped the project to grow but how many hunters care about other people's money? If they do, they would never promote every bounty.

It must be noted especially for the social media hunters. They never try to care with any awareness about the scam project. they are blindly promoting any platform. What they are thinking about more quantity and that means more reward that they will get it. The problem is even the scam bounty has become a confirmed scam bounty and they keep create a report in the thread.
Are they bots? The bots will never hear or see that. Any awareness will be useless as these bots didn't care about that.

[Prince Malik]

You cant consider bounty hunters who promote a scam project as criminals only if they know about the scam and they will get som dollars from investors money...bounty hunters in the majority of cases are also poor people who work hard and didnt get anything

[kaseygriffin]

That's not it! blaming the hunter was incorrect when the project failed. But i think the problem will be with the BM and project team, because BM is the person who will be responsible for the process of bringing the project to the hunter, if the project is scam then part of the responsibility.

The campaign manager does not responsible if the project fails or become a scam project on the other days, the manager only takes responsibility for the campaign that he managed not the project unless he is a part of the teams or involved in the development of the project.

I don't blame BM, but i think they should take some of the blame here as well. With professional BMs, this issue has nothing to argue with because they provide very quality projects in this market, but i still see many BM projects fail and they often turn to the developer. So raise the issue from the outset so that there are no scam or failure projects.

[Ridwan Fauzi]

You cant consider bounty hunters who promote a scam project as criminals only if they know about the scam and they will get som dollars from investors money...bounty hunters in the majority of cases are also poor people who work hard and didnt get anything

This is why, bounty hunter should know the legit and scam project to avoid this thing. Poor people is not mean they can't do anything, right?

Take a look on scam accusation board, there are plenty people who make or investigate a suspicious project. It is mean, all bounty hunter can be able to do that.

At least if they try to investigate the project first and they are doubt that the project is legit then they will make a decision to stay away from the project. And they don't feel guilty for not promoting the project.

[Jocuserious]

Not agree blame professional bounty manager, because many times research errors can occur because of which hunters face scam projects. The bounty manager has nothing to do with a project because the bounty manager is not their core team member. The duty of the Bounty Manager is only to conduct the promoting service and to support all the hunter team. So if the core team make cheats, then we have zero options.

[Jocuserious]

Not agree blame professional bounty manager, because many times research errors can occur because of which hunters face scam projects. The bounty manager has nothing to do with a project because the bounty manager is not their core team member. The duty of the Bounty Manager is only to conduct the promoting service and to support all the hunter team. So if the core team make cheats, then we have zero options.

I do agree with it but we have learned from so many scam projects and it looks like escrow is a must at this moment. There must be an escrow as the main requirement before try to run any bounty.
The bounty hunters are only doing their task and they have no idea about what will be going on with the team whether it will be a scam or not.

yes escrow is the only way to successfully deliver tokens to hunters. However, if a project is scammed there is no benefit in using escrow because dead tokens are considered useless. At this point the amount of good projects has decreased and there is no strong bounty from which hunters can make money.

[rat03gopoh]

The bounty hunters are only doing their task and they have no idea about what will be going on with the team whether it will be a scam or not.

it can be identified early only if the bounty hunter wishes to do so. Unfortunately, the bounty hunters adopted the ancient principle "join all, 2 or 3 of them are definitely legit".

yes escrow is the only way to successfully deliver tokens to hunters. However, if a project is scammed there is no benefit in using escrow because dead tokens are considered useless. At this point the amount of good projects has decreased and there is no strong bounty from which hunters can make money.

Crypto issued by the new project is centralized, using escrow is actually futile because all tokens can be controlled by the smartcontract. I've several times got the locked tokens in my own wallet.

[milewilda]

Not agree blame professional bounty manager, because many times research errors can occur because of which hunters face scam projects. The bounty manager has nothing to do with a project because the bounty manager is not their core team member. The duty of the Bounty Manager is only to conduct the promoting service and to support all the hunter team. So if the core team make cheats, then we have zero options.

I do agree with it but we have learned from so many scam projects and it looks like escrow is a must at this moment. There must be an escrow as the main requirement before try to run any bounty.
The bounty hunters are only doing their task and they have no idea about what will be going on with the team whether it will be a scam or not.

yes escrow is the only way to successfully deliver tokens to hunters. However, if a project is scammed there is no benefit in using escrow because dead tokens are considered useless. At this point the amount of good projects has decreased and there is no strong bounty from which hunters can make money.

There still money that you can extract with bounties but the probabilities is really way to lower compared into those days where ICO is still on the hype.
Escrow is always been suggested where you do able to get some guarantees that you would really be paid up but i do agree into your point that
those escrowing of funds would be useless if the value of token or coin is zero or just good as dead.Its had been told for how many times that
bounty hunting is already shit but there were still people who do push out the probabilities on making money with it.
About on the question on being a criminal on promoting a scam bounty then people shouldnt really be blamed of because they havent
known it on the first place.

[helloinox]

You cant consider bounty hunters who promote a scam project as criminals only if they know about the scam and they will get som dollars from investors money...bounty hunters in the majority of cases are also poor people who work hard and didnt get anything

Poor is not an excuse for bounty hunters that promoted a scam project to defend themselves. If a project showed a clear sign of fraud but there are still bounty hunters want to work for it then yep, they're both partners in crime. Poor can't cut you some slack for this.

[ElmedoRator]

I got stuck with a question bounty hunter - Isn't he a criminal???

For example a person promotes (Bounty) projects, in the end learns that projects fraudulent
support in fundraising, but get nothing for it

What say comrades??

Hunters will make no mistake here, as they are required to work to get what they deserve. And the hunters are still on the job, but they won't know that the project they're working on is a scam, they don't realize it until the end of the campaign. The big mistake here is on that project, but there's nothing we can do about it when they cheat bounty, and in this space such projects and I've never seen the hunter's fault or the BM.

[TheUltraElite]

Poor is not an excuse for bounty hunters that promoted a scam project to defend themselves. If a project showed a clear sign of fraud but there are still bounty hunters want to work for it then yep, they're both partners in crime. Poor can't cut you some slack for this.

Try to look into the bounty hunters perspective to get the idea. They did their their research and believed in the project but then it turned out to be a scam. If they immediately withdraw all support then the damage if not undone, can be minimized.

Again another hunter may be out here just to spam and get paid for it - the worst kind. They will not even do a basic check on the project and join it and then complain why they never got paid and got some red trust on their account. They are the ones who create childish threats in "Reputation" and start posting filth there about their negative trust rating.

We have all sorts of hunters here. No wonder it is a mess.

[Lhaine]

Hunters will make no mistake here, as they are required to work to get what they deserve. And the hunters are still on the job, but they won't know that the project they're working on is a scam, they don't realize it until the end of the campaign. The big mistake here is on that project, but there's nothing we can do about it when they cheat bounty, and in this space such projects and I've never seen the hunter's fault or the BM.

Even the bounty manager has a hard time finding out if the campaign he managed is legitimate or not  so they are also working the same as hunters for reviewing a project before they manage it.  they can also do mistake managing one scam campaign  so you should not blame any one if they participate in scam campaign they are just hoping to get good rewards in it.

[Strongkored]

Hunters will make no mistake here, as they are required to work to get what they deserve. And the hunters are still on the job, but they won't know that the project they're working on is a scam, they don't realize it until the end of the campaign. The big mistake here is on that project, but there's nothing we can do about it when they cheat bounty, and in this space such projects and I've never seen the hunter's fault or the BM.

Even the bounty manager has a hard time finding out if the campaign he managed is legitimate or not  so they are also working the same as hunters for reviewing a project before they manage it.  they can also do mistake managing one scam campaign  so you should not blame any one if they participate in scam campaign they are just hoping to get good rewards in it.

Discussions like this will continue to exist, it is true that hunters are not criminals if they promote a project that turns out to be deceptive in the end because it is beyond the ability of hunters to know the end of the project, but often hunters also don't care when many have warned that the project is scam their continues to promote the project, continues to provide reports in the bounty thread, and it is very strange.
When you choose to be bounty hunters you also need to pay attention to the updates of the project that you are promoting if you see irregularities do not hesitate to leave the project and if you choose to continue it will be your own responsibility get nothing.

[TheUltraElite]

When you choose to be bounty hunters you also need to pay attention to the updates of the project that you are promoting if you see irregularities do not hesitate to leave the project and if you choose to continue it will be your own responsibility get nothing.

As a bounty hunter it is their responsibility to keep tabs on the bounty they are taking part in. The reason this does not get followed properly is that one bounty hunter may take part in hundreds of bounties at the same time. Because of this none single bounty gets their full attention. Mindlessly they spam social media and the forum hoping to get paid millions. Though things have reduced nowadays a lot in the forum.

But yes, this increases the problems. They dont check when a bounty gets cancelled or stopped - keep on spamming it and then complain they never got paid. Lack of sensible skills, I would say but its a lot more to that.

[coin_1122]

That's not it! blaming the hunter was incorrect when the project failed. But i think the problem will be with the BM and project team, because BM is the person who will be responsible for the process of bringing the project to the hunter, if the project is scam then part of the responsibility.

The campaign manager does not responsible if the project fails or become a scam project on the other days, the manager only takes responsibility for the campaign that he managed not the project unless he is a part of the teams or involved in the development of the project.

The campaign manager is not responsible whatever the negative things happen during bounty, he is also getting paid for managing the campaign. Even he is also one of the people like us, which he will research the basic things about the project and start promoting the campaign in order to get awareness about the project.